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Posted: 8/2/2005 9:03:12 AM EDT
Heard there was an article about this new device in this month's SWAT. Can anyone elaborate on who makes this and where one might be obtained? I understand it requires an IR illuminator to achieve this level of performance, but for average folks who need one for home security, I doubt there is much concern about casting an IR beam.

I'd be very interested in hearing any info anyone might be able to provide about this new NVD.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:10:48 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:23:56 AM EDT
CH,
If nobody responds I'll post the info from the article tonight.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:35:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:39:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 10:40:34 AM EDT by Bhart89]
From the above link:




The Weaver NightView is a new digital compact night scope that will change the way you view the world after dark. NightView is built on state-of-the-art digital imaging technology which yields a crisp, detail-rich, full field-of-view image in all low-light conditions. It's what you expect night vision to be! It's fun and easy-to-use. It includes a video-out port that can be quickly connected to a video monitor or camcorder for surveillance purposes. It’s perfect for boaters, nature hobbyists, campers, hikers, astronomers, and night vision enthusiasts. Buy it today, and open your eyes to a
whole new world after dark.



There is no comparison out there!

Built on Digital Imaging Technology: Weaver’s state-of-the-art digital imaging technology yields a far crisper, contrast-rich image versus competing models. Weaver uses a Sony™ high-sensitivity CCD image sensor and displays through a premium ferroelectric liquid crystal ocular viewer. User adjustable illumination and image controls provide further refined detail.

Preserves Viewer Stealth: Images are displayed through NightView’s premium quality eyepiece viewer. Competing models utilize a bright LCD display that lights up the user’s face and seriously impairs their eyes’ sensitivity to light.

Targeted illumination: Tight illuminator dispersion on target yields a crisper, more refined image versus the wide spray illumination effect of competing models.

Includes Three High-Quality Light Filters:
Green: Provides the greatest image
contrast and detail
Red: Preserves your night vision
Neutral: Minimizes amount of light
to the eye


Easy-to-use: Can be easily operated with one hand.
AC Adapter Included.


Specifications
Summary Compact digital night vision monocular with carrying case,
AC adapter, and three high-quality light filters.
Model
UPC Code 849397
0 76683 49397 2
Imager
Total image pixels
Sensitivity
Shutter
Video output
Electronic Zoom
CCD Sensor 525 horizontal by 420 vertical
0.03 Lux with 12mm F1.2 lens
Automatic electronic 1/60 to 1/120,000 second
NTSC composite (monochrome)
1.5X or 3X image magnification with 12mm F1.2 lens
High sensitivity Sony™ imager
Viewer
Display Technology
Resolution
Focus Ferroelectric Liquid Crystal
400 pixels horizontal by 225 pixels vertical
Adjustable for individual user’s eyes
Complete Device
Size
Weight
Display Brightness
Filters
Illumination System
Illumination Power
Memory
Battery Type
Battery Life
Patent Pending Complete Device
l = 7.2” x w = 2.2” x h = 2.9”
9.3 oz. (264 g)
Adjustable in 100 steps from dim to very bright
User selectable for different night vision applications
High-power infrared
Adjustable from 0 to 100% in 100 steps
Display brightness and illumination power settings are stored
6 AA size batteries (not included)
3 hours continuous use with 100% illumination
Patent Pending


Link Posted: 8/2/2005 10:51:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2005 7:58:26 AM EDT
I have been playing with spare parts in my office and putting together cheap IR cameras but cannot get any range out of them. Does anyone have any review of the real world performance of this thing? Digital should be the way to go, but I am not going to trust manufacturer specs as an indicator of performance (at least not without an iron clad money back return policy).

Has anyone played with one of these yet?
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 10:05:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2005 10:10:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 10:53:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rich_Lucibella:
OK, dumb question.
What is the significance of "Tag"?
Rich


Rich,
It allows TEAM MEMBERS to easily find this thread. All they have to do is click on the 'My Active Topics' button and a link to this thread will show up.

You can post anything to have the link show up in your list, but if people don't want to add to the discussion they just post 'Tag' or '.' or somesuch so they can easily find this thread.

-Forest
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 4:20:27 PM EDT
Tag. Waiting on someone to try it on their dollar.
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 4:45:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rich_Lucibella:
OK, dumb question.
What is the significance of "Tag"?
Rich



And you're a MODERATOR?
Link Posted: 8/3/2005 5:48:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 1:11:13 AM EDT
Wow, this thing sounds pretty interesting. For this sort of price, if it is capable of what's claimed, I think we have found a real baragin here for civilian night vision.

I wonder what kind of viewing range it has? I didn't see that mentioned anywhere. Even if it's only 100 yds or less, if you can get the type of clarity out of this that they say you can, it would still be well worth the asking price.

OK, which one of us is gonna be the guinea pig and try this out for the common good of our fella board members?
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 1:26:24 AM EDT
Tag for images from this thing
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 1:29:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/4/2005 1:34:11 AM EDT by METT-T]
Here it is for $170

salestores1.com/we84nidinivi.html

Somebody's got $170 laying around to donate to a worthy cause!

I don't understand how they would get Gen III performance, tho. I thought the costs of the intensifier tube were pretty non-negotiable. Is it kinda like Gen I with a good illuminator and a digitally cleaned up image? Any STANO gurus out there?
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 7:38:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By METT-T:
I don't understand how they would get Gen III performance, tho. I thought the costs of the intensifier tube were pretty non-negotiable. Is it kinda like Gen I with a good illuminator and a digitally cleaned up image? Any STANO gurus out there?



They don't use an intensifier tube. They take advantage of the fact that CCD chips are also sensative to IR light as well as visible light. So you flood the area with IR light and just look at the image - kinda like using the light on your cam-corder to illuminate so your camera can take video. Only in this case they use IR light instead of visible light.

CH I'd bet the range is only limited by how much IR you can put out. With a decent Surefire and an IR filter you might do fairly well.

I'm just trying to figure out a way to mount this behind my EOTech 552 - I can design the mount but I don' have access to a milling machine...
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 7:47:03 AM EDT

I'm interested in this technology too. I looked at one at Sportsman's Warehouse, but never thought it would get such a positive review. It just seems to good to be true, or maybe I'm just looking at it through old tired eyes.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 9:32:55 AM EDT

I'm just trying to figure out a way to mount this behind my EOTech 552 - I can design the mount but I don' have access to a milling machine...


LOL. I was thinking the same thing. It looks a bit large and awkward for weapon mounting. But I'm sure if there's a will there's a way.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 11:22:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:

I'm just trying to figure out a way to mount this behind my EOTech 552 - I can design the mount but I don' have access to a milling machine...


LOL. I was thinking the same thing. It looks a bit large and awkward for weapon mounting. But I'm sure if there's a will there's a way.



I was thinking along the lines of JB Welding it to somethign like this:

www.armsmounts.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id=6

Link Posted: 8/5/2005 11:29:39 AM EDT
tag for when I have some $$.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 11:39:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 11:45:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
... it's more like a camera with an LCD panel on the back. looked pretty good from what i could tell.



That sums it up. It's a video camera w/o the tape or dvd writing mechanism.

We had a thread on this idea a year or two ago in the optics section. The neat thing about this kind of optic is you can also make it a gunsight. Any reticule, any bullet-drop-compensation, even zero it for multiple weaons. Just add a controller chip and a USB port and you can reprogram it at will from your PC or laptop. The possibilities are astounding.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 11:50:59 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 1:03:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/5/2005 1:04:27 PM EDT by Denny_Hansen]
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 1:19:18 PM EDT
Interesting.
Link Posted: 8/5/2005 1:23:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/5/2005 2:37:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 5:34:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/6/2005 9:04:53 AM EDT by The_Beer_Slayer]
Link Posted: 8/6/2005 6:49:06 AM EDT
Thanks for the update TBS.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 3:46:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By METT-T:
Here it is for $170

salestores1.com/we84nidinivi.html

Somebody's got $170 laying around to donate to a worthy cause!

quote]

F@#$K it, I'll be the first to order one. I'm ordering it tonight, and will report back when it arrives!
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 8:23:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lu380:
Originally Posted By METT-T:
Here it is for $170

salestores1.com/we84nidinivi.html

Somebody's got $170 laying around to donate to a worthy cause!

quote]

F@#$K it, I'll be the first to order one. I'm ordering it tonight, and will report back when it arrives!



Do you have an EOTech or Aimpoint? I would really like to know how a red-dot looks through it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 4:33:55 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 4:43:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By lu380:
Originally Posted By METT-T:
Here it is for $170

salestores1.com/we84nidinivi.html

Somebody's got $170 laying around to donate to a worthy cause!

quote]

F@#$K it, I'll be the first to order one. I'm ordering it tonight, and will report back when it arrives!



The ad says it is a "scope," but nowhere do I see anything about mounting brackets, weaver rail or crosshairs for that matter. Are they referring to scope in the same way I refer to a spotting scope?
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 4:55:31 AM EDT
Tag for range report. Seems like a good addition for the hurricane kit.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 5:31:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/9/2005 10:22:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 10:28:27 AM EDT
tagged
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 10:33:36 AM EDT
.tag.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 11:22:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
<snip>
IN TIME, I SUSPECT THAT CCD CHIPS WILL REPLACE IMAGE INTENSIFICATION TUBES FOR
ALL NVDS. ALTHOUGH THE NIGHTVIEW HAS AN .03 LUX CCD, CCD CHIPS WITH A
SENSITIVITY RATING .0003 LUX ARE NOW AVAILABLE, ALTHOUGH NOT IN A DIGITAL
NIGHT VISION DEVICE.



Well, why not?? "Market opportunity"
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 2:49:17 PM EDT

I read this article as well, and I must say, it also really peaked my interest. I can't wait for the range report!

If it's good, I probably will go pick on up myself...

KOTB
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 11:11:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:

IN TIME, I SUSPECT THAT CCD CHIPS WILL REPLACE IMAGE INTENSIFICATION TUBES




Anyone know how far out we are from this day?
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 11:23:53 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 11:26:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 7:37:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2005 8:40:33 AM EDT by chadkok]
I wonder how much additional run time you could get by running lithium AA's instead of alakaline?
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 7:45:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2005 8:08:05 PM EDT
Tag for followup later
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 8:18:39 PM EDT
Oddly enough, I just finished the article and find it will likely suit my needs, both at work and play. (looking for scrotes and wildlife)


Ordering one now, I'll give it a whirl.

I'll send a bill to SWAT if it sucks.

Review to come.
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 9:34:59 AM EDT
This baby is gonna be a hard one to find as soon as they start getting used. If it lives up to all that has been printed and shown on the site, it'll either be sold out quickly or the price will skyrocket. Already ordered one based off the SWAT article.

Sportsman's Guide says November for delivery, but they've said that in the past and that date is usually the worst case scenario. Could this be a SWAT cop's dream of having nightvision?

Rich and Denny, good stuff as usual.

Vaughn
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 1:30:01 PM EDT
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