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Posted: 12/21/2005 10:06:51 AM EDT
I'm thinking AMD 3500+ processor. I need a motherboard suggestion for an AGP video card. I just bought an ATI 850x pro. I wasn't thinking upgrade when I did this, so I want to be able to use this card for a good while. I'll be using my current IDE hard drives, but want sata for later. I have 1 gig of memory to use as well. Basically, I'll use all my stuff from my current setup except the mobo and processor. What are my options in your estimations?
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 10:33:37 AM EDT
socket 939 processor right?

I would suggest the Asus A8V -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131541
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 11:17:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 11:47:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 11:53:28 AM EDT by treemydawg]
how much u willin to spend on mobo and processor ihave a 3500+ venice with and an abit fatal1ty mobo together they cost between 400-500 dollars but it is a screamin setup the mobo has agp but if some year in the future you want upgrade it has pci expess slots and the ability to run sli config wich bridges two sli capable cards together. it also comes with a guru panel which lets u over clock your cpu if u choose with the turning of dials.

ETA oops im a dumbass was just checking the specs again guess it doesn't have agp sorry.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 12:17:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
socket 939 processor right?

I would suggest the Asus A8V -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131541


That's kinda what I'm looking for. It's a lot cheaper than I expected to pay. Not complaining, but is this a really good board? I know ASUS is good. I was kinda looking at an ASROCK 775V88+ locally or a Gigabyte K8NSC-939.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 12:22:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By treemydawg:
how much u willin to spend on mobo and processor ihave a 3500+ venice with and an abit fatal1ty mobo together they cost between 400-500 dollars but it is a screamin setup the mobo has agp but if some year in the future you want upgrade it has pci expess slots and the ability to run sli config wich bridges two sli capable cards together. it also comes with a guru panel which lets u over clock your cpu if u choose with the turning of dials.

ETA oops im a dumbass was just checking the specs again guess it doesn't have agp sorry.



Bummer. That's about what I expected to pay and want to do this right the first time around. In the past I've tried to stay on a lower budget and get middle of the road stuff. I almost allways end up upgrading every 2 years. What the hell am I saving if I can't get more time out of my system.
I'm probably limited in MOBO's due to my AGP bonehead purchase. I realize there is little difference in performance currently (AGP vs PCIe), but figure all the really cool toys won't have AGP capability.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:41:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 4:26:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gun-fan:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
socket 939 processor right?

I would suggest the Asus A8V -

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131541


That's kinda what I'm looking for. It's a lot cheaper than I expected to pay. Not complaining, but is this a really good board? I know ASUS is good. I was kinda looking at an ASROCK 775V88+ locally or a Gigabyte K8NSC-939.



Yes, it is a very good board.

It has been allready said, but Asus makes a damn fine motherboard.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 5:10:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 5:24:34 PM EDT by Appelsientje]
I have an Asus A8N-e with a 3500+ Venice and it´s lightning fast, although my perception is a little distorted since I just upgraded. The mobo is $110 on Newegg but it has no AGP, so I don´t think it´s the right choice for you. I just wanted to say I´m happy with Asus. Everything just works. My only complaint is that one of my fans seems to be on full blast most of the time if not all of the time, eventhough I have Cool 'n' Quiet turned on, but at least the Cool part works great.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 7:39:11 AM EDT
Great info guys. I see 2 3500+ venice and a clawhammer processor. What is the difference? How fast of a processor will this MOBO handle? www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131541


Will this ram be good? http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145440

I'm slowly talking myself into a complete new build. :)
What about the barebones stuff as a dedicated gamer?
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 8:48:59 PM EDT
using that mobo right now with my geforce 6800 and I love it. that memory is good solid memory. It doesn't overclock alot, but with a 3500+ processor, you don't need to. That motherboard will accept ANY socket 939 processor. Between the clawhammer and venice core, DEFINATELY get the venice if there's not a big difference in price. It has a larger memory cache, and it runs cooler.
Link Posted: 12/24/2005 5:17:36 AM EDT
You might consider the AMD SanDiego processors like the 3700+.

It's only gonna be around 30 dollars more than a Venice 3500+ but the L2 cache on the Sandiego is bigger, rumored to be slightly better for gaming making as much as a 10% boost in performance.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539


As for RAM, I went with Crucial PC3200 and got 2 gigs of it for right at 200 bucks. RAM is cheaper than I have ever seen it and 2 gigs is a good idea. I would suggest going with two 1 gig sticks(some motherboards have issues with making use of all 4 slots at 512k and slowing down).
Link Posted: 12/24/2005 7:25:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By uglygun:
You might consider the AMD SanDiego processors like the 3700+.

It's only gonna be around 30 dollars more than a Venice 3500+ but the L2 cache on the Sandiego is bigger, rumored to be slightly better for gaming making as much as a 10% boost in performance.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539


As for RAM, I went with Crucial PC3200 and got 2 gigs of it for right at 200 bucks. RAM is cheaper than I have ever seen it and 2 gigs is a good idea. I would suggest going with two 1 gig sticks(some motherboards have issues with making use of all 4 slots at 512k and slowing down).



+1 for the L2 cache

Its typicaly a bottle neck in most systems

My Laptop Has a 1.9ghz Pentium M and I can play everygame out there.
Manly due to the X700 graphics and the fast ram but the 2mb L2 cache helps.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 9:08:32 AM EDT
Also if you're comfortable overclocking you may want to consider the Venice cores. They are insane overclockers. 55% overclocks are possible. I've seen articles where they are beating the FX-55 once you get them up to around 2.6-2.7 ghz. Just do a Google search on AMD 64 3200+ Overclock.

That's the processor I've picked for my build.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 11:14:28 AM EDT
Just a little additive here. AGP is fine, but if you intend on running the newer games and future games. Go with PCI x16 interface. Otherwise, all the processing power in the world wont help you. A good memory bus speed is helpful as well. May have been stated already, but i wanted to re-iterate.
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