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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:44:43 PM EDT
I took a picture of an amazing sunrise using my phone this morning, and it was a bit washed out (even with the sun not up yet).

I have an Olympus ZX-2 that has great manual controls, and I want to try it.  Can't change the lens, so wondering what kind of settings you guys recommend to get proper exposure in those conditions.

I would add the photo here, but I heard that my free photobucket account won't work for that anymore...
Link Posted: 9/28/2017 9:14:26 PM EDT
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I can't give you exact settings as every scene is different. I will usually start out around f10 iso 100 and adjust my shutter speed as needed. Lightning changes so drastically for sunrise/sunset pictures that I will adjust my shutter every few minutes. If your camera has a histogram and live view this make it easy to compose your shot. The real magic will happen in post processing. I always use a tripod just so I know everything is steady.
Link Posted: 9/28/2017 9:17:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/28/2017 9:18:01 PM EDT
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Does it shoot RAW?

Most awesome sunset/sunrise pics have a fair amount of processing.

I've gone to a bit of an extreme here, but you'll see what I'm getting at:

Straight OOC:
PAT15002 LZ Sunrise by FredMan, on Flickr

Processed:
PAT15002 LZ Sunrise by FredMan, on Flickr

And another set, not so dramatic on the post work.  OOC:
DSC_4566_ by FredMan, on Flickr

Post:
Sunset 20170221 by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 9/28/2017 9:22:13 PM EDT
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Amazingly, here's one with no post-work.  Took it before I started shooting RAW and playing around with processing.

D200, 70mm, 1/90, f/6.7, ISO 100

DSC_1302 by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 9/29/2017 11:40:10 AM EDT
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Yes, this particular point and shoot does shoot in RAW.  It's very nice with the features.  I think it has a historgram, but I don't use that feature (still a newb).  I'll get out and play with the settings in RAW and see what I can come up with.

If I use ISO 100, what kind of exposure have you guys found works best for the low light foreground without washing out the sunrise?  I am guessing that a mid range aperature with maybe a 1 second exposure?  Just trying to get a feel for the distance and darkness balance.
Link Posted: 9/29/2017 11:44:22 AM EDT
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This 15002 pic is very close to what I was trying to capture.  The horizon washed out, but the pinks and blues higher up came through.  I was at the firehouse, so there was a flag near me which showed up well.  The buildings and other flags down the street were blacked out a bit because of the low light.  

I'll try to copy your settings and see how they turn out.
Link Posted: 9/29/2017 7:48:16 PM EDT
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I'll get out and play with the settings in RAW
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The whole point of shooting RAW is that you play with the settings in post.

I very much encourage you to slightly overexpose (Zack's ETTR); I try for +.3 to +.5 EV most of the time.  Pulling back some +EV will result in much less noise than pushing -EV.
Link Posted: 9/29/2017 7:53:15 PM EDT
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Yes, this particular point and shoot does shoot in RAW.  It's very nice with the features.  I think it has a historgram, but I don't use that feature (still a newb).  I'll get out and play with the settings in RAW and see what I can come up with.

If I use ISO 100, what kind of exposure have you guys found works best for the low light foreground without washing out the sunrise?  I am guessing that a mid range aperature with maybe a 1 second exposure?  Just trying to get a feel for the distance and darkness balance.
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1 second is going to blow everything out.  Off-hand, not seeing the scene I'd got for something like f/5.6, 1/80, if you can hold that steady.  Adjust ISO until your sky is slightly washed out (shoot raw!) and bring it back in post.

Settings on my top picture there were 11mm, f/2.8, 1/125 sec, ISO 100.  I can get away with a lot more at f/2.8 and 11mm that I could at 24 or even 18mm.  11mm is so wide that it has incredible depth of field unless you're focusing on something very close.
Link Posted: 9/29/2017 9:10:05 PM EDT
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1 second is going to blow everything out.  Off-hand, not seeing the scene I'd got for something like f/5.6, 1/80, if you can hold that steady.  Adjust ISO until your sky is slightly washed out (shoot raw!) and bring it back in post.

Settings on my top picture there were 11mm, f/2.8, 1/125 sec, ISO 100.  I can get away with a lot more at f/2.8 and 11mm that I could at 24 or even 18mm.  11mm is so wide that it has incredible depth of field unless you're focusing on something very close.
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Thanks! Since it's point and shoot, I only have the lens that's on it.  I do have control over the other features, and will break out the tripod to try those settings.  I appreciate the help!
Link Posted: 9/29/2017 11:52:10 PM EDT
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