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Link Posted: 9/6/2017 10:07:36 AM EDT
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I've been studying and studying pics like this where you can see the solar prominences.

Until now, the only way I've known to even have a chance at viewing them was through a h-a scope. What about the eclipse made this possible? Was it just the complete elimination of the photosphere, thereby making the much fainter prominences visible? Or is there some other trickery afoot?

Is there some potential method for someone without a h-a scope to view prominences when there isn't an eclipse on? Perhaps by overexposing the absolute fuck out of the sun, and then cranking it up even more in post? Possibly some modified filter that can be added to the camera?

Curious questions indeed.

I paged a few of you solar shooters. I'm curious if anyone else might have some ideas about this.
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From some digging online and based off the little bit of solar photography I have done it looks like the normal solar filters will filter out the prominences.  If they don't, then the brightness difference between the prominence and the sun must be tremendous.  You could try stacking many images to bring them out, but I can't find any evidence of them on my solar filtered photos when I bring the exposure way up.  The "bloom" even from the filtered sun when over-exposed is still overpowering.

I think that the h-alpha is the only way to limit the exposure appropriately to see the prominences plus the details in the surface of the sun.

I am not sure how I would mount one on a super-telephoto lens.  I don't see any that mount on the front lens element.  Maybe something like the energy rejection filter from Thousand Oaks (http://thousandoaksoptical.com/products/h-alpha/) and then a drop in h-alpha filter.  Looks like the drop-in filter would be 52mm for the Nikon f/2.8G 400mm telephoto.  I can't find any 52mm screw in filters, but you could probably take a 2 inch h-alpha filter and mount it on a 52mm uv filter and make it work.

Biggest thing is just getting the energy down.  It wouldn't take much of a mistake to damage/destroy the camera and/or lens.
Link Posted: 9/6/2017 10:25:33 PM EDT
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Having now observed totality in person, anything less seems so insignificant.
seriously.
like you said, the difference is so amazing.

depending on where I am, I will find my way to go observe 2024 in totality as well.
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I'm already working on plans for it. I may take students to it again, but I may set out for the wilderness.
Link Posted: 9/9/2017 4:28:11 PM EDT
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Following up on photographing prominces without an h-a filter, and without an eclipse, here's my attempt.

600mm, 1/30 sec, f/9, ISO 800.  Then applied a reverse radial filter just over the sun's diameter, dropping exposure to -4.  This was my poor-man's attempt at some kind of mask over the sun.  Everything outside the radial filter is "as shot".  Exposure of the overall shot was probably +3EV to +3.5EV; Lightroom's clipping indicator still shows some dynamic range available, so no true blow-out on the original.

Sun 20170909 Filtered by FredMan, on Flickr

I think that even if I used a real mask on the solar film or lens, without the moon blocking out most of the light, prominences are just too faint compared to the rest of the solar output to photograph without using something like an h-a filter.  Too much light and too much atmosphere is just scattering the light to the point where prominences simply can't be seen.  That, or there aren't any prominences right now :)

Here's the entire frame as-shot, except for cropping.  

Sun 20170909 Unfiltered by FredMan, on Flickr

And here's a shot at 1/60 sec, rest the same, cropped and processed for a "normal" white-light sun shot.  All the cool sunspots have either faded or rotated off to the east.

Sun 20170909 by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 9/9/2017 4:51:35 PM EDT
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That, or there aren't any prominences right now :)
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Good attempts.

Here is the last SOHO EIT 304 image.



You can see more here
https://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/eit_304/512/

There are most likely prominences. They just get overwhelmed without the hydrogen alpha slot filter.
Link Posted: 9/15/2017 11:14:21 PM EDT
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Here is my best picture during totality.  We had a cloud come across right as totality started, and it stuck around for the whole
thing.  I was using a Meade ETX70-AT telescope and using my cellphone to take pictures through the eyepiece.

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Link Posted: 9/17/2017 9:16:10 PM EDT
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A selection of a few from today.  I underexposed the totality shot (pretty strong wind in western Nebraska I had to keep the shutter speed up for), so the corona doesn't show up great, but some nice orange flares.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/128807/TS2_2793-286962.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/128807/TS2_2749-286961.jpg

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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/128807/TS2_2718-286960.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/128807/TS2_2818-286966.jpg
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I can't stop staring at this pic. The scale of what's going on is impossible to fathom and it's beautiful.
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