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Posted: 2/21/2006 9:23:23 PM EDT
Hi there i just got dsl from sprint 2 weeks ago and the first game a got for my new high speed was bf2... but im finding on peek hours my pings are over 300 and up 500! As you know you get kicked from most servers over 200, late night and early mornings i can get a ping of 70- 90 and later that day same server the pings of death. I feel like sprint is giveing me the run around, i have started a tick but no real answers yet, is there anything i can do or will i have to live with it?....Man its fun when i can stay on a server and its hell when im pinging 300 and or getting kicked. Any ideas on how to get sprint to help me ? i would love to play on your server.
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 9:48:19 PM EDT
Sounds like you are getting the high pings around peak usage times for the network. Verizon has a similar problem here locally due to their frame relay setup, and they have too many customers on the network. It does sound like a problem with the ISP.

Are there any other DSL, Cable, or wireless providers in the area?
Link Posted: 2/21/2006 11:14:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Are there any other DSL, Cable, or wireless providers in the area?



I know Dionysus, and he lives out in the country. As nice as the country is I was actually suprised to hear that he got DSL because there are no other broadband providers in his area, at best he could get 56k. Sprint just installed this dsl system in his area about 3 weeks ago.

They have him on a run around, they sent a tech out to his place to install a line filter...which didnt do anything. They did say that there was some problems with thier ISP's server and that they are "working on it"....

Not much else to do but complain to Sprint and wait it out eh?
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:15:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gaspain:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
Are there any other DSL, Cable, or wireless providers in the area?



I know Dionysus, and he lives out in the country. As nice as the country is I was actually suprised to hear that he got DSL because there are no other broadband providers in his area, at best he could get 56k. Sprint just installed this dsl system in his area about 3 weeks ago.

They have him on a run around, they sent a tech out to his place to install a line filter...which didnt do anything. They did say that there was some problems with thier ISP's server and that they are "working on it"....

Not much else to do but complain to Sprint and wait it out eh?



Pretty much, thats all you can do if thats your only broadband option in the area. Dont worry though, you are not alone. The company I work for is beating Verizon into the ground over broadband access in this area because thier sevice is the same way right now.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 8:52:03 AM EDT
if hes got ok cash flow he should look in to broadband through sattelite its not too bad.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 9:05:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By treemydawg:
if hes got ok cash flow he should look in to broadband through sattelite its not too bad.



naaaa. satellite sucks balls for online gaming.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 9:25:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:

Originally Posted By treemydawg:
if hes got ok cash flow he should look in to broadband through sattelite its not too bad.



naaaa. satellite sucks balls for online gaming.



+eleventybillion

1000 ms average response time is not something I would look forward to.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 3:24:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By treemydawg:
if hes got ok cash flow he should look in to broadband through sattelite its not too bad.



SUCKS for gaming
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 3:48:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2006 3:50:20 PM EDT by WildBoar]
The thing I love about DSL where I am is that it is constant. I can depend on it being stable 24 hrs a day. I had big time peaks and drops with Cable though.

Dionysus, make sure nothign is running in the background. Some folks have download programs running all teh time. Limewire? Kazaa, Bearshare? stuff like that. That is the ONLY thing that goofs my pings. Well not anymore since I got rid of em running.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:21:38 PM EDT
i've learned something about dsl since i have had numerous problems with the dsl where im at(and it still isn't fixed). dsl is shared in your neighborhood just like cable is. you just done see as much of a change as cable. its kinda funny. the tech that came to the house didn't even know that. he was the lead tech for the area.

i go onsite for numerous customers and have no speed flutuation whatso ever. when i go home my dsl 1536kb down 384kb up. the upload speed is always normal. but my download speed is always variable. download speeds range from 70kb to 130kb. I have never been to the 192kb speed(actually no one gets that speed because of the distance, resistance, and all that good stuff)

im am very close to the central office, the line is suppost to handle 3mb. but I will never get it. at least not for a year or two.

the max speed avail in ky for residents is 6mb download
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:28:13 PM EDT
thanks for the replys. Dsl is from what everyone tells me is great for gameing, you can see more swings in bandw in cable i hear. My system is clean nothing runs in the background i wanted a fresh start with my "mew dsl".... This morning (before work) i was enjoying a 60-100 ping and tonight 300-400 on the same servers. From everything i know about dsl this isnt normal so why cant sprint give me the true story? You dont know how bad i want to knife gaspain online lol we all need goals. Ill call AGIAN and see if sprint will work with me thanks for the posts.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 5:38:10 PM EDT
oh cruze you got that post is as i was writing mine lol. Thank you for that info, ok so you can lose speed i can spare some kbs we have a 3meg here. But will you also get a higher ping due to more ppl on also? Im afraid sprints going to put me on THier no call list if i dont get my pind down haha.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:30:11 PM EDT
Try using pathping instead of ping. You may be able to find the slow hop. If its out side of Sprint then they will not be able to help you.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 9:53:56 PM EDT
I have a cable modem and it is stable as hell. No noticable drops in speed either up or down in my neighborhood... and I know atleast 50%, if not more, of the homes around me have the same cable modem service. I've been under this belief that cable modem service would suffer if too many people were using it at the same time in your neighborhood, but I haven't found this to be true at all. Never had DSL so I can't speak to that.

-d
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 7:54:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 8:35:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
I'm getting mad at my ISP too. I live between Lee's Summit and Warrensburg, and my ISP is located in Sedalia, 45 mins drive away so I'm not sure there is anything I can do about it. I've tried different ISPs and I'm just too far out in the country for a good connection I guess. Getting tired of being kicked because my ping is over 200. I can't just wave my magic wand and make them bring decent internet out here.

Anyone know of any console commands or anything that would help my ping times? Its DSL btw.



do you have all the phone line filters on ALL of your telephony devices. (im sure you do but thats the first thing i ask everyone) I have gotten to know my local dsl tech in my area. a couple things to try.

1. ask if you can have a dsl filter installed outside your house. that wasy you can ditch all the other phone line filters. the dsl will only work in that one room. but those dsl filters can be a pain. cost at most $80 dollars.


2. request to be switched to a differnt dslam. since your out in the country im not sure how that will work.


3. what download and upload speed to they advertise??? what do you actualy get. test it here. speakeasy click bottom right speed test.

other than that, if you have other computes hooked up to your router, make sure you tell your sister to stop looking at porn, those movies give big lag spikes.

disable as many programs when you run the game, thats about all you can do.
Link Posted: 2/25/2006 2:12:55 AM EDT
#4- Next time you have a tech out ask him to check for bridge tap. This is where your line makes a multiple appearance at a nearby terminal. Bridge tap creates reflection that will interrupt traffic on your line.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:04:34 AM EDT
Update on dsl, sprints newtwork somewhere down the line is over loaded and on the 9th of march should be upgraded to handle the tracfic. If this is true i will be able to play on AR server woot! It will be nice to see what real dsl is like for the first time. Thank you for the post and help, get ready gaspain my knife is sharp.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 6:28:24 AM EDT
i just found out yesterday 6MB dsl is avail parts of ky now.


74.95 a month with a 1year agreement, this is residential btw
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:05:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cruze5:
i just found out yesterday 6MB dsl is avail parts of ky now.


74.95 a month with a 1year agreement, this is residential btw



Great you can pay more for service you don't get!

-d
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:37:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dizza:

Originally Posted By cruze5:
i just found out yesterday 6MB dsl is avail parts of ky now.


74.95 a month with a 1year agreement, this is residential btw



Great you can pay more for service you don't get!

-d



yeah at one point i had them upgrade the service to the 3mb to see what would happen.


nothing changed


im pretty upset with alltel at this point

maybe the upgraded speeds in the area wiill force them to upgrade equipment and it will fix my issues
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 10:39:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 10:42:13 AM EDT by Slurm_Cola]
Try dslreports.com and check your speed and hub locations. The tests are under the "Tools" link.

Enjoy

P.S. PHUCK EA
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:01:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:06:22 AM EDT by cruze5]

Originally Posted By Slurm_Cola:
Try dslreports.com and check your speed and hub locations. The tests are under the "Tools" link.

Enjoy

P.S. PHUCK EA



are you talking about Line Packet Loss Testing, and 24x7 Line Monitoring??

NM. i thought you had to pay to use those NM..


thank you sir
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 11:24:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 11:30:55 AM EDT by REDHORSE]

Originally Posted By dizza:
I have a cable modem and it is stable as hell. No noticable drops in speed either up or down in my neighborhood... and I know atleast 50%, if not more, of the homes around me have the same cable modem service. I've been under this belief that cable modem service would suffer if too many people were using it at the same time in your neighborhood, but I haven't found this to be true at all. Never had DSL so I can't speak to that.

-d



Ditto for cable. Never had problems with over-subscription with cable in my neighboorhood. I've never experienced the 'peak hours' problem. My cable access just keeps getting faster and faster with no additional charges. 100% reliability from my experience.

On the other hand, friends and clients who are using DSL have all had some type of problems.

Gone are the days of dual bonded modems and ISDN for me from my earlier days. I've always been in search of the best online gaming experince. I've had as many as 4 analog POT lines at home at one time. lol

I have been online gaming since 1987.... My first online game against another human opponent was a game like Tron cycle bikes on my 1200 baud modem on my Apple //E.

I remember drooling over a Hayes 9600 baud modem at $900 each.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 1:59:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dionysus:
Update on dsl, sprints newtwork somewhere down the line is over loaded and on the 9th of march should be upgraded to handle the tracfic. If this is true i will be able to play on AR server woot! It will be nice to see what real dsl is like for the first time. Thank you for the post and help, get ready gaspain my knife is sharp.



Overloaded?? or did they say loaded? Just curious 'cause if it was loaded that would mean there was a loader on your line. A loader is a type of coil to "amplify" regular phone service. Loaders tear apart the DSL siginal like the PKM thru a sniper holding a knife Also if this is the case I would call B.S. because it's usually a matter of clipping 2 wires. There is no reason it should take em a week to do this if you are being billed for it. Just my 2cents... good luck though.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:07:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 9:23:00 PM EDT by Dionysus]
I believe what they said was more users then the system can handle and they are adding on to handle it. I can watch my ping go from 60 to 400 around 3-4 pm , all the kidlets get home from school and get on line. I called them alot about it, im not sure if they would have done anything other wise.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 4:11:19 PM EDT
odd the local DSL people here claim that theres no way to oversell and there will never be peak time slow downs.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 4:34:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twckxbzd:
odd the local DSL people here claim that theres no way to oversell and there will never be peak time slow downs.





i've talked to some pretty high people(for my isp) and its the facts of life they say.
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