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okay cool. overall just hoping everything gets going. need them bench gains. View Quote How often will you inject? Lots of guys prefer twice a week or every two days over once a week. I was liking twice a week but got tired of constantly poking myself so I went back to once a week and don't really feel a difference except my e is a little more up and down. |
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Everything depends on the person and how much you respond to it. It builds up in your system over time since the half life is a little longer than a week. So it takes a little while to max out the effects. I felt euphoric like 2 days after my first shot, but that was probably just sweet relief that it was getting taken care of. Haha. How often will you inject? Lots of guys prefer twice a week or every two days over once a week. I was liking twice a week but got tired of constantly poking myself so I went back to once a week and don't really feel a difference except my e is a little more up and down. View Quote |
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FYI--for all you guys on TRT, and using LabCorp, they are changing their Total T reference range in 4 days. See the note on this lab report someone in the Low T GD thread posted.
link They're lowering the low end from 348 down to 264 and lowering the top end from 1197 down to 916 for males over 18. Looks like they're trying to shunt guys off TRT. |
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Yeah. I paid $42 once for 10ml of test from Walgreens because the pharmacist decided it would be fraud to bill my insurance for more than a one month supply or some crap and I didn't feel like dealing with small bottles and didn't have the time to care and push the point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Even if it's not covered, test from CVS with a goodrx coupon is about $60 and that lasts me 6 months. Pins can be ordered in bulk online and an AI can be bought for dirt cheap through research chems. Insurance costs are a racket. Jeez. |
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seems low but gotta start somewhere. lady was cool. View Quote |
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I can pretty much guarantee you won't see estrogen problems on 100/wk. Split that into a sunday morning and Thursday night dose with insulin needles and inject into your belly or ass. Subc has the least effect on aromatization. View Quote |
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Are we going for strength gains or overall wellness here. OP is going for an overall quality of life bump. Let's take it easy on the anabolic talk and stay focused. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Or 4500... OP is going for an overall quality of life bump. Let's take it easy on the anabolic talk and stay focused. Even between, I feel better, sleep better, and seem to be overall in a better state. The "low" marker that is used is ridiculously low, IMO. That said, my comment was meant to be humorous. Sorry I guess the internet doesn't convey what I was trying to. |
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you math whiz you! how long to feel the effect after the shot? View Quote You might feel it a little before then, but due to the half life of the cypionate ester it will take 3-4 weeks to fully "kick in". |
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Sometimes, the two go hand in hand. Even between, I feel better, sleep better, and seem to be overall in a better state. The "low" marker that is used is ridiculously low, IMO. That said, my comment was meant to be humorous. Sorry I guess the internet doesn't convey what I was trying to. View Quote Just my thoughts as I've seen guys go from "Hey I just want to feel better" to "where can I get the juice bro?" I want to be shredded and 300lbs. Then they come crying to you wondering why their nipples are leaking and can't stop crying even after you tell them they need to diet and train hard on trt before you even consider it. But they always fail to listen. |
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Oh I know what you were doing but OP is in the crawl, walk, run process right now. He's still in the being conceived phase right now and talks of grandeur in the 4k range can skew the original goal of feeling better. Just my thoughts as I've seen guys go from "Hey I just want to feel better" to "where can I get the juice bro?" I want to be shredded and 300lbs. Then they come crying to you wondering why their nipples are leaking and can't stop crying even after you tell them they need to diet and train hard on trt before you even consider it. But they always fail to listen. View Quote I hope you arent saying that I am trying to find some shortcut to gainsville... For me some "feeling better" will translate to gains. |
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I dont even know how to take this post. I hope you arent saying that I am trying to find some shortcut to gainsville... For me some "feeling better" will translate to gains. View Quote For example... Guy at the gym eats like shit, trains like shit and feels like shit. He said he got tested and has low T. All of a sudden he's gone from trt to a full blown tren cycle and asking about ghrp and shit. He is now leaking from his nipples and has his hormones so out of wack that I don't even know what to do for the guy. He now has snow cones for nipples.... All from going from 0 to 90 without understanding what's going on in his body and his brain. Not saying you're going to go full retard but believe me, I've seen it. |
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Nope not at all. But I have seen people do it that's why I said it. For example... Guy at the gym eats like shit, trains like shit and feels like shit. He said he got tested and has low T. All of a sudden he's gone from trt to a full blown tren cycle and asking about ghrp and shit. He is now leaking from his nipples and has his hormones so out of wack that I don't even know what to do for the guy. He now has snow cones for nipples.... All from going from 0 to 90 without understanding what's going on in his body and his brain. Not saying you're going to go full retard but believe me, I've seen it. View Quote yeah i could totally see that. Every youtube beast mode guy who will talk about it will say its addicting. |
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alright. yeah i could totally see that. Every youtube beast mode guy who will talk about it will say its addicting. View Quote What they don't show you is the piles of viagra and cialis it takes to get a boner for those hot bitches that are throwing themselves at them. I didn't intend on this to be a tisk tisk response and never thought it would be taken as such. I just want people to be careful with the strongest force on the planet, being hormones. |
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What alot of YouTube doesn't show is the guys who eat every 3 hours, does 2 hours of cardio, and is so drained they use drugs to keep going. They post videos of all the hookers and blow, fast cars, and sponsored clothing and gear. What they don't show you is the piles of viagra and cialis it takes to get a boner for those hot bitches that are throwing themselves at them. I didn't intend on this to be a tisk tisk response and never thought it would be taken as such. I just want people to be careful with the strongest force on the planet, being hormones. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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alright. yeah i could totally see that. Every youtube beast mode guy who will talk about it will say its addicting. What they don't show you is the piles of viagra and cialis it takes to get a boner for those hot bitches that are throwing themselves at them. I didn't intend on this to be a tisk tisk response and never thought it would be taken as such. I just want people to be careful with the strongest force on the planet, being hormones. I won't even get into the boner talk... @Pumbaajk You are absolutely correct in what you said, and looking back I was tired, it was late, and my post isn't nearly as funny as it sounded at the time. My bad. Honest to god advice is that TRT, if you need it, is life changing. Its amazing being able to feel normal again. A lot of guys are tempted to *upgrade* or branch out from there... I would never seriously advise anyone to use steroids. Ever. I have been invited to do seminars with highschool football players several times and I always get asked on the side "when is a good time to start steroids?" They're always blown away when I tell them NEVER. It's a good way to guarantee that eventually, you'll be on TRT forever even if you wouldn't have needed it. |
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This. And its not so much that its addicting, its that people get *stupid* and suddenly think they don't have to listen to those who have knowledge and experience, and watch youtube videos for advice instead. I won't even get into the boner talk... @Pumbaajk You are absolutely correct in what you said, and looking back I was tired, it was late, and my post isn't nearly as funny as it sounded at the time. My bad. Honest to god advice is that TRT, if you need it, is life changing. Its amazing being able to feel normal again. A lot of guys are tempted to *upgrade* or branch out from there... I would never seriously advise anyone to use steroids. Ever. I have been invited to do seminars with highschool football players several times and I always get asked on the side "when is a good time to start steroids?" They're always blown away when I tell them NEVER. It's a good way to guarantee that eventually, you'll be on TRT forever even if you wouldn't have needed it. View Quote Message sent. |
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Don't listen to the guys. Tren it up. They just want you to be small forever.
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no updates, still waiting on insurance pre-auth
stuff is $175!! |
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just waiting, i think the dr office didnt send it to insurance until monday. so wasted several days. ill check the coupons now. View Quote |
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wife back at work today (works at hospital we get scripts filled there so insurance covers) insurance denied it but its only 65$ they told us wrong.
should have it monday. |
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ok.
first shot in the books. The brand/type is for muscle injection apparently. They filled the script weird and shorted the total amount I think. They basically halved my dose. Luckily the wife is a nurse and knows all the dose ratio stuff. doing bloodwork again in a month. |
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ok. first shot in the books. The brand/type is for muscle injection apparently. They filled the script weird and shorted the total amount I think. They basically halved my dose. Luckily the wife is a nurse and knows all the dose ratio stuff. doing bloodwork again in a month. View Quote |
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written - 1ml weekly / 10ml vial filled - .5 ml IM every 2 wks / 1ml vials View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Yeah, I'll have to skip some major t boost stuff for now. Being dead isn't good for gains either. Maybe I can find some natural ways or something to help a little. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I had a heart attack 3 mos after starting TRT. Took a year off from it becuse my cardiologist had a knee jerk reaction that it was bad and decided I would rather be dead than feel as shitty as I felt without it. Been more than a year now. Not dead yet. 50 lbs lighter (keto). Lots more energy. View Quote Every pain i have my wife blames on TRT. She is convinced I will die from this. my FiL even said "you will get cancer!" |
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good to hear! Every pain i have my wife blames on TRT. She is convinced I will die from this. my FiL even said "you will get cancer!" View Quote The TRT will kill me, but the McDonalds we were eating 1-2x a day was fine... riiiight Thankfully I saw the light and changed my ways, and she seems to have done the same. She's only been at it a week (I started planning to change my ways a month ago and started two weeks ago) so time will tell. |
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My girlfriend has been saying the same thing for the last 2-3 years. The TRT will kill me, but the McDonalds we were eating 1-2x a day was fine... riiiight Thankfully I saw the light and changed my ways, and she seems to have done the same. She's only been at it a week (I started planning to change my ways a month ago and started two weeks ago) so time will tell. View Quote |
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alright so bloodwork in the a.m. hopefully ill have some numbers for you guys to see if anything has improved.
I missed yesterday's shots, ran out of needles. Got some just now though, hopefully it doesnt skew the numbers any. |
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At least you found a dr willing to help you. I've been in the low to mid 200's for the last few years. It sucks. Going to see about getting tested again. 37 but feel 67
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http://www.vitalitymedical.com/bd-syringes-with-needles.html
If you guys want to stock up (if you're taking shots regularly), this is about the cheapest way to do it... then just order the draw tips and you're done. I use the 3mL syringe, 23ga 1-1/2 inch needle for injection and 18ga, 1 inch needle for drawing from the bottle. Also paying $80 per 10mL vial of 200mg Test-C from a family-owned pharmacy, no insurance coverage for that as the only way they wanted to pay for part of it was with ten 1mL vials. Fuck that annoyance. |
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I'm using Defy Medical out of Florida and they have me on 60mg of T, injected M-W-F, for a total of 180mg weekly. My last draw was a total T level of 845 and they literally said "That's a little low. Let's see if we can up your dose a bit". When I initially faced TRT, I was aware of all the horror stories but research convinced me they were likely unfounded. I finally decided that even in the worst case scenario I would follow the advice of the Kurgan. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/42575/the-kurgan-approves-i-have-something-to-say-its-better-to-burn-out-than-fade-away-246556.JPG View Quote |
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still waiting on results to show up online.
cholesterol has greatly improved as well as vit d... |
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ok results are in... What do you guys think?
6/28 my numbers were: Free- 9.7 Normal range 8.7-55 Total- 241 Normal range 280-1000 9/5 Free- 19.1 Normal range 8.7-55 Total- 561 Normal range 280-1000 Both numbers doubled more or less. Cholesterol: 6/28 Triglycerides 98 mg/dL 30-200 HDL Cholesterol 50 mg/dL 40-60 Cholesterol 274 mg/dL 120-200 Calculated LDL 204 mg/dL 0-130 9/5 Triglycerides 54 mg/dL 30-200 HDL Cholesterol 47 mg/dL 40-60 Cholesterol 140 mg/dL 120-200 Calculated LDL 82 mg/dL 0-130 |
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ok results are in... What do you guys think? 6/28 my numbers were: Free- 9.7 Normal range 8.7-55 Total- 241 Normal range 280-1000 9/5 Free- 19.1 Normal range 8.7-55 Total- 561 Normal range 280-1000 Both numbers doubled more or less. Cholesterol: 6/28 Triglycerides 98 mg/dL 30-200 HDL Cholesterol 50 mg/dL 40-60 Cholesterol 274 mg/dL 120-200 Calculated LDL 204 mg/dL 0-130 9/5 Triglycerides 54 mg/dL 30-200 HDL Cholesterol 47 mg/dL 40-60 Cholesterol 140 mg/dL 120-200 Calculated LDL 82 mg/dL 0-130 View Quote |
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