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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:32:28 AM EDT
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CF seems like it's a great system for working the body. But- like anything else it's a specific lifitng or exercise style based on what you want to do so it isn't for eveyone. As a lifter myself- I get my cardio and over all fitness from mountain biking. I know these 2 things do not go together but I've done the best I can to marry the 2 because I enjoy doing both. It's hard enough for my body to recover by the weekends from lifitng weights early in the week. I've tried CF and it didn't work with what I like to do- Mountain biking. When entering a bike race I even have to stop lifitng 2 weeks out from the race date. When you get to 30-50 mile biking events you can't afford to go into them with recovering or sore muscles. But I can appreciate the fitness level CF creates and what it does for the body.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 4:04:33 AM EDT
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Good read.
While I may occasionally poke a little fun at crossfitters but I'd never talk shit about them. Its a program that obviously works well for many people and has done an outstanding job at exposing some of the BS in the fitness industry........oh yeah and the women are 
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Posted: 3/23/2013 6:25:21 AM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 7:26:10 AM EDT
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Note, this isn't directed at you. You're an ambassador for crossfit and a good guy.
I don't think any "real" coach dislikes crossfit as a whole for the reasons you posted above. Also, the girls are really hot. Most people dislike crossfit for the reasons listed below: Greg Glassman is a complete fucking, tool shed, ass bag, douche bag, faggot, prick The general programming Crossfitters tend to be worse than athiests/christians at "anything not crossfit" sucks Honestly, it's generally not us disliking crossfitters as much as crossfitters disliking everyone else. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 7:33:07 AM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I think what people despise are the people (on both side but CF's seem much more vocal) that scream and shout that their system/program/beliefs are superior to everyone else. Some people will say to do CF no matter what the question asked was... 
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Posted: 3/23/2013 7:43:48 AM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I think what people despise are the people (on both side but CF's seem much more vocal) that scream and shout that their system/program/beliefs are superior to everyone else. Some people will say to do CF no matter what the question asked was...
Says the HIT Jedi.   
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Posted: 3/23/2013 8:01:05 AM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I think what people despise are the people (on both side but CF's seem much more vocal) that scream and shout that their system/program/beliefs are superior to everyone else. Some people will say to do CF no matter what the question asked was...
Says the HIT Jedi. Lol I put that there because it IS that ridiculous
ETA: I am actually getting back into my hybrid PT/Weights program. Not CF as I was doing this long before CF had a name and I don't do all the CF stuff anyway 
But failure training is what I do when I want to bulk up fast. It'll work for about 2-3 months max for most people but that's about it. It's certainly not for everyone though, no doubt. And you won't catch me preaching to any one about any program being better or worse then another. My thoughts are that people should try numerous styles and programs to find what they like and what works for them. I find the fitness snobs to be the ones that lack experience most of the time. They try one or two styles/programs and then self proclaim themselves gurus. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 8:27:49 AM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I don't think that the lifting community think "real" lifter despise CF. Heck Mark Ripptoe used to be a part of it and even mentions it in his book "Practical Programing". It has also brought lifting back into the main stream. Have it on TV shows that for both girl and guys that lifting wieghts and doing olympic lifts in to going to make you into this huge over weight neanderthal that can only pick up heavy weight but not walk a mile. This is not directed at you in anyway, you seam like a upstanding guy and good endorser for CF. The things I don't like about CF are: -Greg Glassman is an ass and turned a good concept into money flow and that is all that matters to him. -The loudest crossfitters spew that CF is the ONLY true fitness and that if you and do CF you are not fit.....hell just look on youtube how many videos put athletes of other sports through CF and make fun of them for not being able to finish. One that really comes to mind is they took to top condender boxers the CF AFTER the boxers had worked out for 45 min. Then the person filming keep making comments on how they could barely do it. -Now everyone in the world thinks they can become a CF coach so you have a thousand little box gyms opening up with people coaching olympic lifts that actually have no idea how to do them. -Crossfitters don't like the the "real" lifters. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 9:07:41 AM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I don't think that the lifting community think "real" lifter despise CF. Heck Mark Ripptoe used to be a part of it and even mentions it in his book "Practical Programing". It has also brought lifting back into the main stream. Have it on TV shows that for both girl and guys that lifting wieghts and doing olympic lifts in to going to make you into this huge over weight neanderthal that can only pick up heavy weight but not walk a mile. This is not directed at you in anyway, you seam like a upstanding guy and good endorser for CF. The things I don't like about CF are: -Greg Glassman is an ass and turned a good concept into money flow and that is all that matters to him. -The loudest crossfitters spew that CF is the ONLY true fitness and that if you and do CF you are not fit.....hell just look on youtube how many videos put athletes of other sports through CF and make fun of them for not being able to finish. One that really comes to mind is they took to top condender boxers the CF AFTER the boxers had worked out for 45 min. Then the person filming keep making comments on how they could barely do it. -Now everyone in the world thinks they can become a CF coach so you have a thousand little box gyms opening up with people coaching olympic lifts that actually have no idea how to do them. -Crossfitters don't like the the "real" lifters. And in just 1 weekend an $1000 you too can become a level one coach! Soon and for just a few more weekends and a few thousand more dollars you can become an affiliate and have your own box too! Allowing just anyone to buy into something typically degrades the name. I recall reading a split in the original CF's due to exactly that. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 9:14:07 AM EDT
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And for what it's worth I think RoG is an upstanding guy and is in no way the stereotypically CF'er. He speaks with class and intelligence and doesn't push CF blindly. He gives advice based on the needs of the person asking and that IMHO is the difference when someone actually knows and understands what they are talking about.
I've even asked RoG to help me with tweaking my own programing. Solid all around. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 9:45:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Note, this isn't directed at you. You're an ambassador for crossfit and a good guy. I don't think any "real" coach dislikes crossfit as a whole for the reasons you posted above. Also, the girls are really hot. Most people dislike crossfit for the reasons listed below: Greg Glassman is a complete fucking, tool shed, ass bag, douche bag, faggot, prick The general programming Crossfitters tend to be worse than athiests/christians at "anything not crossfit" sucks Honestly, it's generally not us disliking crossfitters as much as crossfitters disliking everyone else. Yes, I agree with everything but the general programming comment- general programming is the whole point...once you become focused on one thing, it isn't really crossfit anymore... |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 9:51:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I think what people despise are the people (on both side but CF's seem much more vocal) that scream and shout that their system/program/beliefs are superior to everyone else. Some people will say to do CF no matter what the question asked was... Unfortunately, this is in fact the case. ETA- my formatting got fucked up, so my comments are in red below.
Quoted: All true, but don't lump all CFers in together! The CFers I'm exposed to at least have a huge amount of respect for Oly lifters and power lifters, though our goals may be different. Quoted: I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I don't think that the lifting community think "real" lifter despise CF. Heck Mark Ripptoe used to be a part of it and even mentions it in his book "Practical Programing". It has also brought lifting back into the main stream. Have it on TV shows that for both girl and guys that lifting wieghts and doing olympic lifts in to going to make you into this huge over weight neanderthal that can only pick up heavy weight but not walk a mile. This is not directed at you in anyway, you seam like a upstanding guy and good endorser for CF. The things I don't like about CF are: -Greg Glassman is an ass and turned a good concept into money flow and that is all that matters to him. -The loudest crossfitters spew that CF is the ONLY true fitness and that if you and do CF you are not fit.....hell just look on youtube how many videos put athletes of other sports through CF and make fun of them for not being able to finish. One that really comes to mind is they took to top condender boxers the CF AFTER the boxers had worked out for 45 min. Then the person filming keep making comments on how they could barely do it. -Now everyone in the world thinks they can become a CF coach so you have a thousand little box gyms opening up with people coaching olympic lifts that actually have no idea how to do them. -Crossfitters don't like the the "real" lifters. Quoted: This is one of the biggest problems with CF. It's also one of the reasons we have people coming in from all over the place to come to my gym. I'm happy to say that we have a good staff that actually knows a thing or two about what we're talking about. Quoted: Quoted: I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I don't think that the lifting community think "real" lifter despise CF. Heck Mark Ripptoe used to be a part of it and even mentions it in his book "Practical Programing". It has also brought lifting back into the main stream. Have it on TV shows that for both girl and guys that lifting wieghts and doing olympic lifts in to going to make you into this huge over weight neanderthal that can only pick up heavy weight but not walk a mile. This is not directed at you in anyway, you seam like a upstanding guy and good endorser for CF. The things I don't like about CF are: -Greg Glassman is an ass and turned a good concept into money flow and that is all that matters to him. -The loudest crossfitters spew that CF is the ONLY true fitness and that if you and do CF you are not fit.....hell just look on youtube how many videos put athletes of other sports through CF and make fun of them for not being able to finish. One that really comes to mind is they took to top condender boxers the CF AFTER the boxers had worked out for 45 min. Then the person filming keep making comments on how they could barely do it. -Now everyone in the world thinks they can become a CF coach so you have a thousand little box gyms opening up with people coaching olympic lifts that actually have no idea how to do them. -Crossfitters don't like the the "real" lifters. And in just 1 weekend an $1000 you too can become a level one coach! Soon and for just a few more weekends and a few thousand more dollars you can become an affiliate and have your own box too! Allowing just anyone to buy into something typically degrades the name. I recall reading a split in the original CF's due to exactly that. Quoted: And for what it's worth I think RoG is an upstanding guy and is in no way the stereotypically CF'er. He speaks with class and intelligence and doesn't push CF blindly. He gives advice based on the needs of the person asking and that IMHO is the difference when someone actually knows and understands what they are talking about. I've even asked RoG to help me with tweaking my own programing. Solid all around. Thanks for the kind words  You guys got it. I've said before that CF isn't perfect, and you guys pretty much nailed all the big problems with it. As you know I get irritated with the idiots that claim you'll get hurt doing it or that only weaklings do it etc....nice to see some guys that "get it" |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 10:22:02 AM EDT
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If I didn't have the old injuries I have I'd enjoy doing CF as Rx and would more then likely look into competition. I just like that kind of thing, why I got into racing bikes a while back, why I got into competitive shooting as well. I can only focus on fitness stuff for so long before I have to change it up.
CF is a good example of what can happen when something gets too big or popular for it's own good. There is tons of good that CF has done but a lot of it has unfortunately been drown out buy the elitist. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 10:29:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: If I didn't have the old injuries I have I'd enjoy doing CF as Rx and would more then likely look into competition. I just like that kind of thing, why I got into racing bikes a while back, why I got into competitive shooting as well. I can only focus on fitness stuff for so long before I have to change it up. CF is a good example of what can happen when something gets too big or popular for it's own good. There is tons of good that CF has done but a lot of it has unfortunately been drown out buy the elitist. Yeah. I know that CFHQ is trying to get more quality out there so that's good. It just blew up SO fast in the last couple years they couldn't keep up...we'll see what happens. Hopefully we can up the QC... |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 10:48:43 AM EDT
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Note, this isn't directed at you. You're an ambassador for crossfit and a good guy. I don't think any "real" coach dislikes crossfit as a whole for the reasons you posted above. Also, the girls are really hot. Most people dislike crossfit for the reasons listed below: Greg Glassman is a complete fucking, tool shed, ass bag, douche bag, faggot, prick The general programming Crossfitters tend to be worse than athiests/christians at "anything not crossfit" sucks Honestly, it's generally not us disliking crossfitters as much as crossfitters disliking everyone else. Yes, I agree with everything but the general programming comment- general programming is the whole point...once you become focused on one thing, it isn't really crossfit anymore... This thread is now a secret RoG rep trade man crush thread...
You're 100% correct. I didn't really finish my thought and the other guys did. General programming is great and probably works for 100% of the people at some point. It's the idea that general programming, "Just crossfit bro", is the correct answer 100% of the time. Not pointing a finger at any of our CF'ers on this board. I might poke fun once in a while, but I joined AR15 mostly for this sub-forum and because of the intelligent debate here. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 11:00:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Note, this isn't directed at you. You're an ambassador for crossfit and a good guy. I don't think any "real" coach dislikes crossfit as a whole for the reasons you posted above. Also, the girls are really hot. Most people dislike crossfit for the reasons listed below: Greg Glassman is a complete fucking, tool shed, ass bag, douche bag, faggot, prick The general programming Crossfitters tend to be worse than athiests/christians at "anything not crossfit" sucks Honestly, it's generally not us disliking crossfitters as much as crossfitters disliking everyone else. Yes, I agree with everything but the general programming comment- general programming is the whole point...once you become focused on one thing, it isn't really crossfit anymore... This thread is now a secret RoG rep trade man crush thread... You're 100% correct. I didn't really finish my thought and the other guys did. General programming is great and probably works for 100% of the people at some point. It's the idea that general programming, "Just crossfit bro", is the correct answer 100% of the time. Not pointing a finger at any of our CF'ers on this board. I might poke fun once in a while, but I joined AR15 mostly for this sub-forum and because of the intelligent debate here. Agreed. This thread will turn into no such thing
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Posted: 3/23/2013 11:41:07 AM EDT
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I've been to five different CF gyms. The first was the only real good one. The instructor had an MS in Kinesiology and a wall full of certificates in physical training. His Olympic coach was an internationally competitive guy with years of experience and a talent for teaching.
The rest have been a bunch of hacks who live on a handful of nuts and their hatred of people that go to "regular" gyms. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 11:48:57 AM EDT
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Just for the fun since we were bring up the problems with what CF has become...
LoL this one is pretty bad
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:39:36 PM EDT
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Some of those fails were fucking hilarious
that deadlift would have been "called" at about 5 seconds in...the worst thing is that the guy appears to be the director of the CF games....d'oh!!!I still laugh at people who don't understand the utility of kipping pullups though....the "seriously WTF is this" guy in the video was doing butterfly kipping pullups which actually take a lot of skill to do and are really efficient, allowing you to do massive sets...if you were competing why wouldn't you want to do pullups as fast as you can?
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:40:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've been to five different CF gyms. The first was the only real good one. The instructor had an MS in Kinesiology and a wall full of certificates in physical training. His Olympic coach was an internationally competitive guy with years of experience and a talent for teaching. The rest have been a bunch of hacks who live on a handful of nuts and their hatred of people that go to "regular" gyms. Yeah, I've seen both too. I go to one in my home town on occasion when I'm visiting and the head coach is a complete idiot when it comes to programming workouts...injures people all the time. What gym was the first one if you don't mind sharing?
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:44:21 PM EDT
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Some of those fails were fucking hilarious that deadlift would have been "called" at about 5 seconds in...the worst thing is that the guy appears to be the director of the CF games....d'oh!!!I still laugh at people who don't understand the utility of kipping pullups though....the "seriously WTF is this" guy in the video was doing butterfly kipping pullups which actually take a lot of skill to do and are really efficient, allowing you to do massive sets...if you were competing why wouldn't you want to do pullups as fast as you can? There is another YouTube vid of a guy criticizing that guys kipping pullups. He did 106 in a minute 36 seconds. I can't do kipping due to my shoulders so I'll stick to my deadhangs 
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:48:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Some of those fails were fucking hilarious that deadlift would have been "called" at about 5 seconds in...the worst thing is that the guy appears to be the director of the CF games....d'oh!!!I still laugh at people who don't understand the utility of kipping pullups though....the "seriously WTF is this" guy in the video was doing butterfly kipping pullups which actually take a lot of skill to do and are really efficient, allowing you to do massive sets...if you were competing why wouldn't you want to do pullups as fast as you can? There is another YouTube vid of a guy criticizing that guys kipping pullups. He did 106 in a minute 36 seconds. I can't do kipping due to my shoulders so I'll stick to my deadhangs The kipping guy did? They are certainly not something you want to do if you have any shoulder issues at all, and probably not something you want to do unless you're willing to accept a little risk of shoulder injury (big numbers anyways, a few kipping PU won't hurt the majority of people who are strong enough to do deadhangs at least)
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:48:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:52:16 PM EDT
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Cool, that article on the first page is pretty damn good too. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 12:54:10 PM EDT
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Ken is a sharp guy. I can't say enough nice things about him.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:00:03 PM EDT
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There are some really really bad examples in this one! Not sure if these are all CF?
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:04:54 PM EDT
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What in the world was the guy at 2:04 doing?
I've seen some really retarded stuff at the gym but that is the strangest thing I've ever seen. ETA: I think that was RoG at 4:24.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:13:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: There are some really really bad examples in this one! Not sure if these are all CF?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e1jcajW0gg&feature=youtube_gdata_playerThe commentator was just as dumb as the guys in the video lol...You're right though, many of those are not CF. I also have no fucking clue what those people with the axle bars thought they were doing...  I sort of know the guy in the jean shorts, he's local...he's kind of a douche
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:37:34 PM EDT
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There are some really really bad examples in this one! Not sure if these are all CF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e1jcajW0gg&feature=youtube_gdata_playerThe commentator was just as dumb as the guys in the video lol...You're right though, many of those are not CF. I also have no fucking clue what those people with the axle bars thought they were doing... I sort of know the guy in the jean shorts, he's local...he's kind of a douche Agreed the commentator was dumb. But to keep the dumb out of this I started a stupid YouTube workout vids thread
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:44:05 PM EDT
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Some of those fails were fucking hilarious that deadlift would have been "called" at about 5 seconds in...the worst thing is that the guy appears to be the director of the CF games....d'oh!!!I still laugh at people who don't understand the utility of kipping pullups though....the "seriously WTF is this" guy in the video was doing butterfly kipping pullups which actually take a lot of skill to do and are really efficient, allowing you to do massive sets...if you were competing why wouldn't you want to do pullups as fast as you can? There is another YouTube vid of a guy criticizing that guys kipping pullups. He did 106 in a minute 36 seconds. I can't do kipping due to my shoulders so I'll stick to my deadhangs The kipping guy did? They are certainly not something you want to do if you have any shoulder issues at all, and probably not something you want to do unless you're willing to accept a little risk of shoulder injury (big numbers anyways, a few kipping PU won't hurt the majority of people who are strong enough to do deadhangs at least) Yeah 106. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:53:59 PM EDT
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Axle bar lifts were fucked up continental cleans.
While I do like to tease CFers, it has exposed much of the general population to barbells. I do think that RoG sometimes takes his "box" for granted. Sounds like an awesome place with sound programming. Sometimes I wonder if the bad trainers in CF wouldn't give the sport such a bad name if they were so zealous. All sports have shitty trainers but it's much more fun to pick on CF. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 1:59:37 PM EDT
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SNIP but it's much more fun to pick on CF. SNIP And then there is always this. How many crossfitters does it take to change a lightbulb? 3. One to do it, one to record it and Greg Assman to rename it, patent it and try to sue anyone else that changes light bulbs. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:03:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Axle bar lifts were fucked up continental cleans. While I do like to tease CFers, it has exposed much of the general population to barbells. I do think that RoG sometimes takes his "box" for granted. Sounds like an awesome place with sound programming. Sometimes I wonder if the bad trainers in CF wouldn't give the sport such a bad name if they were so zealous. All sports have shitty trainers but it's much more fun to pick on CF. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too but I don't have much experience with the continental clean...not something beginners need to be doing IMO. I may take my gym for granted to some extent, but I do know there are other good ones around. Invictus, Valley, Brick, and a few others are pretty legit in my area (I refuse to use the term box unless we're talking about a cardboard box, or the action of boxing
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:04:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: SNIP but it's much more fun to pick on CF. SNIP And then there is always this. How many crossfitters does it take to change a lightbulb? 3. One to do it, one to record it and Greg Assman to rename it, patent it and try to sue anyone else that changes light bulbs. You forgot the 4th to upload a video to facebook |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:07:57 PM EDT
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SNIP but it's much more fun to pick on CF. SNIP And then there is always this. How many crossfitters does it take to change a lightbulb? 3. One to do it, one to record it and Greg Assman to rename it, patent it and try to sue anyone else that changes light bulbs. You forgot the 4th to upload a video to facebook
and then the legion of fat powelifters and curl bros to make fun of the form.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:13:12 PM EDT
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Axle bar lifts were fucked up continental cleans. While I do like to tease CFers, it has exposed much of the general population to barbells. I do think that RoG sometimes takes his "box" for granted. Sounds like an awesome place with sound programming. Sometimes I wonder if the bad trainers in CF wouldn't give the sport such a bad name if they were so zealous. All sports have shitty trainers but it's much more fun to pick on CF. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too but I don't have much experience with the continental clean...not something beginners need to be doing IMO. I may take my gym for granted to some extent, but I do know there are other good ones around. Invictus, Valley, Brick, and a few others are pretty legit in my area (I refuse to use the term box unless we're talking about a cardboard box, or the action of boxing ) You are going to become something of the "Anti-Hero" amongst the CF'er
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:15:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Axle bar lifts were fucked up continental cleans. While I do like to tease CFers, it has exposed much of the general population to barbells. I do think that RoG sometimes takes his "box" for granted. Sounds like an awesome place with sound programming. Sometimes I wonder if the bad trainers in CF wouldn't give the sport such a bad name if they were so zealous. All sports have shitty trainers but it's much more fun to pick on CF. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too but I don't have much experience with the continental clean...not something beginners need to be doing IMO. I may take my gym for granted to some extent, but I do know there are other good ones around. Invictus, Valley, Brick, and a few others are pretty legit in my area (I refuse to use the term box unless we're talking about a cardboard box, or the action of boxing ) You are going to become something of the "Anti-Hero" amongst the CF'er haha...I can live with that |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:20:31 PM EDT
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So what's your opinion on the way Ripp and Dan John's departure was handled?
ETA: Obviously it was handled poorly. Is there anything internal that you can share or know about? |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:25:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: So what's your opinion on the way Ripp and Dan John's departure was handled? ETA: Obviously it was handled poorly. Is there anything internal that you can share or know about? Don't know anything about the departure of either of them, however I've read a little about Robb Wolf's departure and CFHQ really acted poorly in that situation, same with one of the other Oly coaches who's name escapes me at the moment... |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:44:14 PM EDT
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So what's your opinion on the way Ripp and Dan John's departure was handled? ETA: Obviously it was handled poorly. Is there anything internal that you can share or know about? Don't know anything about the departure of either of them, however I've read a little about Robb Wolf's departure and CFHQ really acted poorly in that situation, same with one of the other Oly coaches who's name escapes me at the moment... Dan John? I wasn't aware of others. If CFHQ would get out of its own way it could be interesting. Although, the Crossfit Games on ESPN is nice. I'll fully admit to watching the women's events. I want to see a CF'er compete in "Ninja Warrior". |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 2:59:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So what's your opinion on the way Ripp and Dan John's departure was handled? ETA: Obviously it was handled poorly. Is there anything internal that you can share or know about? Don't know anything about the departure of either of them, however I've read a little about Robb Wolf's departure and CFHQ really acted poorly in that situation, same with one of the other Oly coaches who's name escapes me at the moment... Dan John? I wasn't aware of others. If CFHQ would get out of its own way it could be interesting. Although, the Crossfit Games on ESPN is nice. I'll fully admit to watching the women's events. I want to see a CF'er compete in "Ninja Warrior". No, it wasn't him. Yeah, CFHQ has done some bone headed things...I've met Greg Glassman a couple times too and he just seems a bit...off... not sure what the deal is. I do believe they are getting better as they learn how to run things, but only time will tell.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 3:06:30 PM EDT
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24 second deadlift
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Posted: 3/23/2013 3:09:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: 24 second deadlift I'm going to "defend" CF though and say I've seen just as bad from "regular" guys at normal gyms before But yeah...that was terrible...a fucking train wreck.
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Posted: 3/23/2013 3:12:44 PM EDT
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24 second deadlift I'm going to "defend" CF though and say I've seen just as bad from "regular" guys at normal gyms before But yeah...that was terrible...a fucking train wreck. Oh no doubt and no argument there. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 3:19:59 PM EDT
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24 second deadlift I'm going to "defend" CF though and say I've seen just as bad from "regular" guys at normal gyms before But yeah...that was terrible...a fucking train wreck. Oh no doubt and no argument there. This for sure. Many of the "awful" deads in the video on this page really didn't look to bad if you compare them to the deads captain curl fag does. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 4:57:23 PM EDT
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I posted this up because there seems to be a misconception out there that "real" lifters and "real" coaches despise CF, when that obviously isn't the case. I don't think that the lifting community think "real" lifter despise CF. Heck Mark Ripptoe used to be a part of it and even mentions it in his book "Practical Programing". It has also brought lifting back into the main stream. Have it on TV shows that for both girl and guys that lifting wieghts and doing olympic lifts in to going to make you into this huge over weight neanderthal that can only pick up heavy weight but not walk a mile. This is not directed at you in anyway, you seam like a upstanding guy and good endorser for CF. The things I don't like about CF are: -Greg Glassman is an ass and turned a good concept into money flow and that is all that matters to him. -The loudest crossfitters spew that CF is the ONLY true fitness and that if you and do CF you are not fit.....hell just look on youtube how many videos put athletes of other sports through CF and make fun of them for not being able to finish. One that really comes to mind is they took to top condender boxers the CF AFTER the boxers had worked out for 45 min. Then the person filming keep making comments on how they could barely do it. -Now everyone in the world thinks they can become a CF coach so you have a thousand little box gyms opening up with people coaching olympic lifts that actually have no idea how to do them. -Crossfitters don't like the the "real" lifters. All true, but don't lump all CFers in together! The CFers I'm exposed to at least have a huge amount of respect for Oly lifters and power lifters, though our goals may be different. Sorry I wasn't lumping them all together. If you take out the people mentioned above I think CF is pretty good. They just don't have the same goals as me and my knees can not take the jumping and running. I think most CF are good, just the few that are the loudest give the rest a bad name. These are the two that I have the biggest problem with. -Greg Glassman is an ass and turned a good concept into money flow and that is all that matters to him. -Now everyone in the world thinks they can become a CF coach so you have a thousand little box gyms opening up with people coaching olympic lifts that actually have no idea how to do them. of course you can say that about every major gym chain...Ballys, LA Fitness, etc. They are not about fitness anymore just makeing money. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 5:36:30 PM EDT
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^ totally agree...
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Posted: 3/23/2013 7:05:46 PM EDT
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So what's your opinion on the way Ripp and Dan John's departure was handled? ETA: Obviously it was handled poorly. Is there anything internal that you can share or know about? Not all the was CFHQ though. Ripp can be kind of an asshole sometimes. He is also get a little "my way is the only way to do it" especially on squat technique. Also he is getting a little of a cult following thing going similar to CF. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 7:10:59 PM EDT
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I've seen just as bad from "regular" guys at normal gyms before [div] I worked at Bally's on the weekends for awhile trying to earn extra cash. You some of the weirdest shit in there. I saw a guy bust his head up doing this. Standing overhead tricep extension-toss-catch-bicep curl thing. Missed the catch and the bar smacked him right in the face. |
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Posted: 3/23/2013 10:13:57 PM EDT
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I've seen just as bad from "regular" guys at normal gyms before [div] I worked at Bally's on the weekends for awhile trying to earn extra cash. You some of the weirdest shit in there. I saw a guy bust his head up doing this. Standing overhead tricep extension-toss-catch-bicep curl thing. Missed the catch and the bar smacked him right in the face. 
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