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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/7/2019 4:50:05 PM EDT
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okay i'll bite.
what does the "4S" stand for? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2019 1:52:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorHorseyhead:
okay i'll bite. what does the "4S" stand for? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2019 11:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziarifleman:
It’s not that much more capable than a Creedmoor, especially with a sub 1k round barrel life. It feels like you’re using this thread as justification for “hype” to elicit responses from manufactures. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/9/2019 6:15:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKY-PUP:
A Message from Jim @ Prime Ammo / Sniper's Hide Forum https://i.postimg.cc/nrXSCS32/US-Factory.png https://i.postimg.cc/NjF8Y2P8/USA.png < https://pikdo.net/p/primeammo/2069236147852411922_1238066266 > https://i.postimg.cc/TPFQCyw7/A-message-from-Jim-Prime-Ammo.png < https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/a-message-from-jim-prime-ammo.6949330/#post-7811414 > To update: I spoke with Jim O'Shaughnessy, by phone, a couple weeks ago. Re the made-in-the-USA Prime Ammunition 6.5mm SAUM 4S, he said that's still a few months away. He expressed his gratitude for all the support he's received from our sport-shooting world. The future looks bright for Prime Ammunition. And, I'm looking forward to the release of Made in the USA Prime Ammunition 6.5mm SAUM 4S. During my July 24, 2019 phone conversation with Jim O'Shaughnessy, wherein, I asked when our sport-shooting world can expect the highly-anticipated release of USA-made Prime Ammunition 6.5mm SAUM 4S ammunition, Jim answered, "Next the 6mm Creedmoor, then the 6.5 SAUM 4S." 
I'm excited ! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 12/23/2019 6:27:35 AM EDT
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And, while our sport-shooting world anxiously awaits the arrival of U.S.-made 6.5mm SAUM 4S ammunition, SIG Sauer has announced their upcoming 277 SIG FURY --- with 80,000 psi chamber pressures
277 SIG FURY: SIG Sauer Unveils New Caliber With Hybrid Case Design < https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/ammo/277-sig-fury-hybrid-case-design/ > Which prompts the question: How does the 6.5mm SAUM 4S (A, 150-grain Sierra HPBT Matchking bullet, BC - 0.713) compare with the 277 SIG FURY (B, 140-grain bullet, BC - 0.508) --- using 16" barrels: 
(NOTE: 10 mph crosswind ) |
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Posted: 12/31/2019 2:56:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKY-PUP:
And, while our sport-shooting world anxiously awaits the arrival of U.S.-made 6.5mm SAUM 4S ammunition, SIG Sauer has announced their upcoming 277 SIG FURY --- with 80,000 psi chamber pressures 277 SIG FURY: SIG Sauer Unveils New Caliber With Hybrid Case Design < https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/ammo/277-sig-fury-hybrid-case-design/ > Which prompts the question: How does the 6.5mm SAUM 4S (A, 150-grain Sierra HPBT Matchking bullet, BC - 0.713) compare with the 277 SIG FURY (B, 140-grain bullet, BC - 0.508) --- using 16" barrels: https://i.postimg.cc/dt0tVYRx/6-5-SAUM-150-Sierra-vs-277-SIG-FURY-140-gr-16-inch-barrels-2.jpg (NOTE: 10 mph crosswind ) |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2020 9:58:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKY-PUP:
Today, I came across this encouraging update from McMillan Stocks: https://i.postimg.cc/4xkxrLhH/McMillon.png < https://mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-stands-with-prime-ammunition/ > Happy New Year to all ! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2020 5:33:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorHorseyhead:
okay i'll bite. what does the "4S" stand for?    Attached File |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2020 11:05:54 PM EDT
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And, while we await the production of U.S.-made 6.5mm Short Action Ultra Magnum, SIG Sauer has developed a high-pressure bi-metal cartridge: .277 SIG Fury. The cartridge is reloadable. And, SIG has a 6.5mm version in the works.
< https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/277-sig-fury-demystified/ > 
< https://modernfirearms.net/en/assault-rifles/u-s-a-assault-rifles/ngsw-r-sig-mcx-spear-2/ > Great way to start-off the new decade ! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 6:27:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SKY-PUP]
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SHOT Show 2020: .277 SIG Fury Ammo
< https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2020/1/20/277-sig-fury-an-inside-look > 
< https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2020/01/shot-show-2020-day-one-opener/ > |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2020 10:57:39 AM EDT
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So are you at SHOT so you can tell everyone how awesome your idea is and everyone should make these?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/9/2020 7:39:36 AM EDT
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Target Sports 6.5mm SAUM 4S 5 Star Review
 I compared the 6.5mm SAUM 4S 142-grain SMK (BC - 0.626) load (A) with the 6.5mm SAUM 4S 150-grain SMK (BC - 0.713) load (B) to 1500 yards --- 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/9/2020 10:48:28 PM EDT
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Prime does not even list ammo for this dead caliber anymore...
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/10/2020 2:16:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hoser: Prime does not even list ammo for this dead caliber anymore... Please see my 7/19/2019 (Post #298), 7/22/2019 (Post #299) and 7/23/2019 (Post #300) Posts on Page 3: The Target Sports offering is European-made. Shooters are still awaiting the promised production of US-made Prime Ammunition 6.5mm SAUM 4S. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2020 3:30:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m4hk33: The 277 is interesting. I think Sig has an incredible vision, and engineering, and abysmal qc and follow through. I would like to see what happens once some reloaders start messing around with it. honestly 6.5CR works perfectly for me, but new stuff is always cool. If LMT would make a barrel, I would definitely drop it in my MWS and mess around with it m4hk33, And, I agree. I see the Sig bi-metal case as the beginning of a whole new ball game ---  < http://www.internationalsportsman.com/sig-unveils-cross-bolt-and-277-sig-fury/ > |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 4:05:43 AM EDT
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And, now there's high-tensile-strength brass for .277 Sig Fury experimenters
 < http://www.rccbrass.com/277-fury/ > |
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USA
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Posted: 8/1/2020 9:21:46 PM EDT
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If I were wanting a long range personal rifle I'd wait on one of those two above. Very impressive.
5.56, 300blk, .308 "Fury" rounds would be interesting as well. Who's making the Wolverine bone barrels? |
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Posted: 8/1/2020 9:23:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M16A4]
[#18]
Kinda want the PSA 6.5Creed.
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USA
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Posted: 8/2/2020 1:12:19 AM EDT
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This peeked my interest in "AR10" platform calibers. How does 338 Federal stack up? Why 6.5 Creedmoor has success and 338 Federal is basically unknown has me wondering.
 Price, weight, and marketing I suppose because it certain doesn't come close in performance. Anyone know a good AR 338 barrel manufacturer?
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2020 12:26:07 AM EDT
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To update:
SIG SAUER Delivers Next Generation Squad Weapons to U.S. Army < http://www.sigsauer.com/press-releases/sig-sauer-delivers-next-generation-squad-weapons-to-u-s-army/ > |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2020 12:48:40 AM EDT
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"A bird in the hand . . ."
I today called Prime Ammunition and spoke with Customer Service. I posed the question, "When will our sport-shooting world be able to order made-in-the-USA Prime Ammunition 6.5 SAUM 4S ammunition." The response, "That's still about a year out." Meanwhile, the comments from shooters using the made-in-Europe 6.5 SAUM 4S ammunition are encouraging ---  < http://www.targetsportsusa.com/prime-ammunition-6-5-remington-saum-4s-ammo-142-grain-otm-match-plus-7528240020-p-109362.aspx > |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:46:18 PM EDT
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Enter: The new-for-2021 6.8 Western
< https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2021/1/15/new-cartridge-for-2021-68-western .   How does the 6.5mm SAUM 4S (A) compare to the 6.8mm Western (B) to1500 yards :  (A: 150-grain Sierra SMK BC - 0.713; B: 165-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range BC - 0.620)  (A: 150-grain Sierra SMK BC - 0.713; B: 175-grain Sierra TGK BC - 0.617) |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2021 6:40:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SKY-PUP]
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Has anyone tried the 6.5mm SAUM 4S ammo offered by Target Sports USA ? If so, a shooter's report with pics would be welcome.
 < https://www.targetsportsusa.com/prime-ammunition-6-5-remington-saum-4s-ammo-142-grain-otm-match-plus-7528240020-p-109362.aspx > |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2021 12:37:37 AM EDT
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Kind of funny this dead horse is still being beaten.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/26/2021 2:36:41 AM EDT
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6.5 GAP 4S a.k.a. 6.5 SAUM, what is it?
https://www.loaddevelopment.com/6-5-gap-4s-6-5-saum/#:~:text=What%20is%20a%206.5%20SAUM.264 |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2021 7:06:42 AM EDT
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And, for the auto-loading rifle enthusiast: AR-10 Magnum Bolts for 6.5 SAUM builds
 (Accuracy Systems, Inc.) |
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Posted: 5/30/2021 2:55:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKY-PUP: And, for the auto-loading rifle enthusiast: AR-10 Magnum Bolts for 6.5 SAUM builds https://i.postimg.cc/4xS6RDHr/Accurcy-Systems-6-5-SAUM-Bolt.png (Accuracy Systems, Inc.) Great! You can build your dream rifle now... |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 3:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziarifleman: Great! You can build your dream rifle now... Hahahahaha |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2021 11:35:14 PM EDT
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The 300 Winchester Short Magnum AR-10 and the 6.5 SAUM AR-10 are success stories - - -
  It's 2021. A long-time Bullpup rifle enthusiast, I've reached-out to a Bullpup manufacturer for a 6.5 SAUM Bullpup rifle. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 11:31:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKY-PUP: Well if this project of his was so successful 13 years ago.... I think we can keep assuming that it actually wasnt/isnt. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 1:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hoser: Well if this project of his was so successful 13 years ago.... I think we can keep assuming that it actually wasnt/isnt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hoser: Well if this project of his was so successful 13 years ago.... I think we can keep assuming that it actually wasnt/isnt. Why is there no port door on that receiver? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2021 11:20:53 PM EDT
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The widest point of the .308 Winchester case is the rim: 0.473"
The widest point of the .300 Winchester Short Magnum case is the base: 0.555" This necessitated that I open-up the ejection port, which no longer allowed the original port cover to latch closed. |
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Posted: 6/1/2021 11:59:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SKY-PUP: The widest point of the .308 Winchester case is the rim: 0.473" The widest point of the .300 Winchester Short Magnum case is the base: 0.555" This necessitated that I open-up the ejection port, which no longer allowed the original port cover to latch closed. That sounds expensive |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2021 5:17:11 PM EDT
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True Velocity extends performance benefits of 'Next Gen' TVCM cartridge to currently fielded weapons
 < https://www.tvammo.com/press-releases > |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/8/2022 5:33:26 PM EDT
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