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Posted: 5/12/2019 10:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flinch08:
No flipping here. Long range marksmanship is amazing. Shitty Vortex scopes and CDS dials convincing people all they need to do is twist dials to be competent is all over the place. Neither are to blame for shitty shooters shooting shitty. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 12:12:19 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flinch08:
No flipping here. Long range marksmanship is amazing. Shitty Vortex scopes and CDS dials convincing people all they need to do is twist dials to be competent is all over the place. Look at how many videos are on YouTube of long range shots. Now search for wounded and missed shots on game. Crickets and spiderwebs. My initial post was in regard to the individual saying 6.5 runs out of steam at 500 yards. No it doesn't. If you poke a hole through lungs and heart the animal dies. What does run out is people's ability to hit shit at that distance. I see it posted over and over how this or that caliber performs this way or that way at X number of yards that is way out of line for 99.9% of all shooters. Stupid shit. Who cares if a caliber is dropping off at 800 yards? Most people can't shoot for shit. At least at 150 yards they have a decent chance of hitting something vital. The further out you go the worse it gets. We have a .300WM. Great rifle. Kills stuff really dead. Cheap ass Savage that is pretty light and MOA accurate. CDS dial. Kinda overkill, but it's really fun to watch people be sad after my wife shows up and starts banging 600 yard steel with it. In the field with wind, dust, fatigue, adrenaline, run to a ridge, shooting off a pack that 600 yards is waaaaay the fuck out there. If you have what it takes more power to you, but most do not. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2019 1:18:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pav56C:
That is all. With all the new calibers I don't read much on here about the .300 Win Mag. In the process of buying/building one. What advantage does the 300 win mag have over WSM? Unless you are maxing the capacity of the larger case, I don't see the advantage. I'm new to long range shooting though, so I could be missing something. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 1:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fluwoebers: I've been considering a 300 as well, but I'm drawn to the WSM. I prefer a short action and don't care for belted brass for reloading. What advantage does the 300 win mag have over WSM? Unless you are maxing the capacity of the larger case, I don't see the advantage. I'm new to long range shooting though, so I could be missing something. |
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Posted: 5/14/2019 11:48:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Why waste your time with a short action at all? Normal 300 has more case capacity and velocity. I agree I would prefer a non belted cartridge so I would look at a 30 nosler or 300prc. Really though a 300 Winchester magnum is a great round. While I am just a civilian, I’ve watched .mil extend the range of their precision small arms, to now include the 300 Win Mag. .Mil and others have discovered “extremely low drag” projectiles and are using them to make hits on torso-size targets at (and beyond) 1200 meters. The 200+ grain low drag bullets are only improving with each passing year. Newer optics/ ranging reticles keep coming down in price, and make it ever easier for Joe average to make longer and longer range hits. Hornady’s new aluminum tipped bullets have impressive BC numbers and could be game-changers. I see the 300 as an easily-accessible (heck, even Walmart carries ammo), highly-capable, long range cartridge which strikes an easy balance between accuracy and cost without stepping up to something exotic like the 338 Lapua or even a heavy match 50BMG with custom bore riders. Plenty of life left in the 300 IMHO. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 3:36:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fluwoebers:
I've been considering a 300 as well, but I'm drawn to the WSM. I prefer a short action and don't care for belted brass for reloading. What advantage does the 300 win mag have over WSM? Unless you are maxing the capacity of the larger case, I don't see the advantage. I'm new to long range shooting though, so I could be missing something. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fluwoebers:
Originally Posted By Pav56C:
That is all. With all the new calibers I don't read much on here about the .300 Win Mag. In the process of buying/building one. What advantage does the 300 win mag have over WSM? Unless you are maxing the capacity of the larger case, I don't see the advantage. I'm new to long range shooting though, so I could be missing something. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 3:45:38 PM EDT
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So who has a pet load with Partitions? 180 or 200, maybe with H4350.
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Posted: 5/18/2019 7:55:14 AM EDT
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Accubonds 190g, 72g R22 = awesomeness
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Posted: 5/18/2019 8:25:40 AM EDT
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Of course I shoot a .300 WinMag for Big Game. As I don't lead a life of luxury my hunting trips are unfortunately short in time fairly costly, so why guess if my lesser caliber rifles will do the job. My freezer is proof of it's ability.
Mine is a Remington 700 BDL topped with a Vortex -HS-T 4-16x 44. My current favorite hand-load is 200 grain Hornady ELDX, 70.2 grains of RL-22 with Federal Large Rifle magnum Primer. Last years Elk hunt in the Bighorn Mountains in the Buffalo Wyoming area. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2019 8:28:53 AM EDT
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338 is waiting in the stable til fall
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2019 1:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: While that's certainly a nice gun, it doesn't tell me anything about 300 WM. have you owned or hunted with a 300 WM? |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 5:15:02 PM EDT
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I use a 300 WM, great caliber. However, I am working on a 300 PRC build. Lots of future potential with this caliber.
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Posted: 5/26/2019 5:45:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wspe1:
I use a 300 WM, great caliber. However, I am working on a 300 PRC build. Lots of future potential with this caliber. |
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Posted: 5/28/2019 2:33:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dominion21]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuschLatte:
I would try to be more specific wither your thread titles then... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuschLatte:
Originally Posted By Dominion21: While that's certainly a nice gun, it doesn't tell me anything about 300 WM. have you owned or hunted with a 300 WM? 1) it wasn’t “my” thread title; I am not the OP, and 2) you quoted me, but I was responding to 0002. Not you. (I do appreciate 0002’s photos of all the delicious looking animals he shot). And, 3) can we get back on topic? This thread is about 300 Win Mag. Please post only if you have something about 300 WM to contribute. Thanks again. Anyone know what velocity .mil is getting from their SMK load? (Thought it used H1000 propellant). |
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Posted: 6/2/2019 7:38:32 PM EDT
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Did some load work up today with IMR4831 and 190gr SMK.
I know there are better loads, but I paid 140 bucks and got a lot with 1000 168smk, 800 180smk, and 1000 190smk, and 30 pounds of powder. 18lbs of IMR4831 in large metal cans. Next load is H1000 and Hornady 225 ELD-M  Attached File Attached FileLooks like this will be a good load out to 1k  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/10/2019 1:09:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WarNerve]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
That's a pretty emotional response... Just use what you like and hunt how you prefer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecurityForcesmember:
Originally Posted By flinch08:
No flipping here. Long range marksmanship is amazing. Shitty Vortex scopes and CDS dials convincing people all they need to do is twist dials to be competent is all over the place. Look at how many videos are on YouTube of long range shots. Now search for wounded and missed shots on game. Crickets and spiderwebs. My initial post was in regard to the individual saying 6.5 runs out of steam at 500 yards. No it doesn't. If you poke a hole through lungs and heart the animal dies. What does run out is people's ability to hit shit at that distance. I see it posted over and over how this or that caliber performs this way or that way at X number of yards that is way out of line for 99.9% of all shooters. Stupid shit. Who cares if a caliber is dropping off at 800 yards? Most people can't shoot for shit. At least at 150 yards they have a decent chance of hitting something vital. The further out you go the worse it gets. We have a .300WM. Great rifle. Kills stuff really dead. Cheap ass Savage that is pretty light and MOA accurate. CDS dial. Kinda overkill, but it's really fun to watch people be sad after my wife shows up and starts banging 600 yard steel with it. In the field with wind, dust, fatigue, adrenaline, run to a ridge, shooting off a pack that 600 yards is waaaaay the fuck out there. If you have what it takes more power to you, but most do not. 
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Posted: 6/12/2019 11:47:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0002s:
264 Win Mag https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/238973/F9C5A0E2-7AC4-4B86-824D-AE0F8DCDEBEA-820490.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/238973/8035E45D-CC76-4EB8-A991-B1E8474948A3-705894.jpg 300 Weatherby Mag https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/238973/F64044F1-E7BF-4702-8DEC-7C155193AF37-820491.jpg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r4kdJMuR2INice work. Good shooting. Love that video - the trace the high speed camera - rounds smacking steel. Loved it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:41:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WarNerve: @0002s Nice work. Good shooting. Love that video - the trace the high speed camera - rounds smacking steel. Loved it. |
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Posted: 6/18/2019 8:36:35 PM EDT
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anyone use H4831 ?
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Posted: 2/2/2020 1:16:35 PM EDT
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It seems as if 300 win mag is making a come back .. there are a few more factory loadings comming out and a more talk over on Snipers hide about it than there used to be..
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Posted: 2/2/2020 6:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blaster7R:
It seems as if 300 win mag is making a come back .. there are a few more factory loadings comming out and a more talk over on Snipers hide about it than there used to be.. The only thing a WM gets you is ammo availability at any small town Walmart if you happen to forget yours. I guess that’s relevant if you’re use is hunting in the woods and just want more power as insurance. If someone is wanting a big .30 for long range hunting, getting some Walmart Remington core-lokts that they don’t even have dope on isn’t going to help much, and good luck remembering the kestrel and rangefinder 
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:54:49 PM EDT
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I still hunt primarily with either my 300 WM, or my 264 WM. I have a pair of 6.5 Creedmoors, but I prefer the additional velocity of the 264, and the much heavier / wider bullet selection of 300 WM. Also have a pair of 7mm Rem Mags. I do plan on building out a chassis rifle in 6.5 creedmoor, as I like the reduced recoil for paper punching and steel plates at long range.
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Posted: 2/10/2020 12:11:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
I agree. If your using say a 300 win mag for critters up to deer size and 338 for elk and keeping shots under 200 yards you'll be fine. I've hunted elk deer etc since I was a kid and get to go on a handful of hunts a year but its always incredibly informative when people from back east with far more experience come and share the wisdom. Letting everyone know how terribly ineffective the 6.5 is is one of those things. I dont care if its a 26 nosler, 264 win mag down to a 6.5 grendel the 6.5 is just not a killing round. If your a true american you use a 30 cal. Thank you for sharing your first hand experience on seeing 6.5s fail in field. Speaking from my own experience I've never seen a deer or elk wounded when shot with say 270, 7 mag, 06 etc but a 6.5 surely will. Like you said 6.5s are accurate but that doesnt really mean anything. Just because you can accurately put a bullet holes through the heart and lungs of a animal doesnt mean anything, It needs knock down power. My 300wm for the big igloo  Attached FileMy Swede for critters and such  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 12:38:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sq40]
[#24]
fewer people use it for sure.
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Posted: 2/11/2020 11:26:14 AM EDT
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I picked up a gently used Tikka T3x in 300wm last year. I'm planning on shooting 215gr Bergers once I fix the shortcomings of the Tikka. I've already filed down the bolt stop and have a steel Proof barrel on order. Once I figure out some bottom metal that will accommodate a 215gr loaded just off the lands, I'll work up a load. I plan on using this as my hunting rifle this year as my Tikka CTR in .260 rem is not fun carrying up into the black bear and coues deer spots.
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:27:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mp_moody:
I picked up a gently used Tikka T3x in 300wm last year. I'm planning on shooting 215gr Bergers once I fix the shortcomings of the Tikka. I've already filed down the bolt stop and have a steel Proof barrel on order. Once I figure out some bottom metal that will accommodate a 215gr loaded just off the lands, I'll work up a load. I plan on using this as my hunting rifle this year as my Tikka CTR in .260 rem is not fun carrying up into the black bear and coues deer spots. I can answer that, to a point..The only super long bolt action BM that I know of is Wyatt's 4" box mag kit ..not sure they make one for the tikka, but you maybe able to adapt it...Magazine wise, if you want to do mags, AICS 3.850" CIP type mags are available, but they will only load to aprox. 3.740" they will likely need some minor fitting to your action..... I went thru this with my rum...I use the Accurate mags CIP mags in an MPA chassis and load a shorter round to mag length for close work, then just single feed my 3.900" long range stuff...  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 10:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSOG1:
anyone use H4831 ? |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 7:15:56 PM EDT
[#28]
300 PRC is what all the cool kids are shooting now.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:31:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0002s:
300 PRC is what all the cool kids are shooting now. 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:00:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
I laughed.... |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:04:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Its funny because it's true. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:08:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
Whatever you say...Several better 30 cals out there..the prs brings nothing that several other cartridges already have and it lacks the speed of several and the brass makers of many.. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 5:35:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Its funny because it's true. 
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Posted: 2/16/2020 1:07:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
Whatever you say...Several better 30 cals out there..the prs brings nothing that several other cartridges already have and it lacks the speed of several and the brass makers of many.. FWIW there isn't enough of a difference out to 500 yards, from a hunting standpoint, to say that any of the 30 cal mags are better or worse. A mule deer doesn't know the difference between 180gr and 212gr bullet at those speeds. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 2:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0002s: You'll enjoy the comparisons FWIW there isn't enough of a difference out to 500 yards, from a hunting standpoint, to say that any of the 30 cal mags are better or worse. A mule deer doesn't know the difference between 180gr and 212gr bullet at those speeds. 
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Posted: 2/16/2020 3:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
Meh, enjoy your new fangled whiz bang...It doesn't do anything for me that my current round doesn't already do better... |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 4:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Why you should pick what works for you and not assume people have the same criteria.  Attached FileOr maybe only you are allowed to make cartridge recommendations....  Attached FileYet my recommendation was a simple one..and had nothing to do with a specific cartridge.....choose the best option for what you are doing...  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 4:32:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RePp]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
I guess you missed the thread title, when you made this, first post... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/Screen_Shot_2020-02-16_at_10_51_52_AM_pn-1278740.JPG Or maybe only you are allowed to make cartridge recommendations.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/Screen_Shot_2020-02-16_at_10_58_06_AM_pn-1278747.JPG Yet my recommendation was a simple one..and had nothing to do with a specific cartridge.....choose the best option for what you are doing... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/404934/Screen_Shot_2020-02-16_at_10_57_10_AM_pn-1278745.JPG |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 5:11:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
The first post was blatant sarcasm at people that always think you need a magnum to shoot anything above an antelope lol. Yes I'm the only one that should recommend cartridges because I dont say one cartridge is the end all be all of cartridges. I hate you grendel fans.  Sure thing boss..I am done..Op's thread deserves better.....
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Posted: 2/16/2020 5:49:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fluwoebers:
I've been considering a 300 as well, but I'm drawn to the WSM. I prefer a short action and don't care for belted brass for reloading. What advantage does the 300 win mag have over WSM? Unless you are maxing the capacity of the larger case, I don't see the advantage. I'm new to long range shooting though, so I could be missing something. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fluwoebers:
Originally Posted By Pav56C:
That is all. With all the new calibers I don't read much on here about the .300 Win Mag. In the process of buying/building one. What advantage does the 300 win mag have over WSM? Unless you are maxing the capacity of the larger case, I don't see the advantage. I'm new to long range shooting though, so I could be missing something. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 7:06:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider:
Sure thing boss..I am done..Op's thread deserves better..... |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 7:49:44 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
300prc is going to be awesome. My next rifle as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp:
Originally Posted By wspe1:
I use a 300 WM, great caliber. However, I am working on a 300 PRC build. Lots of future potential with this caliber. 
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Posted: 2/16/2020 10:42:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 0002s]
[#43]
Bergara 300PRC (the 225s hit hard). Recoil isn't anything to write home about with the Little Bastard V3 Break
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Posted: 2/16/2020 11:04:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2020 11:43:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RePp: I really dig mine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/117780/20191018_152153_jpg-1279377.JPG |
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Posted: 3/14/2020 2:44:18 PM EDT
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I'm debating whether to pick up a .30cal magnum type caliber
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Posted: 4/13/2020 11:17:47 AM EDT
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I do! I love my Winchester a Model 70 featherweight in .300WM
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Posted: 4/13/2020 7:05:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lost_Phil]
[#48]
My buddy just bought a Christensen Arms 300 WM for hunting Elk out west and I am looking at putting a 300 WM together some time in the next few months. I am also thinking of building a 264 WM at the same time as well
 . On a side note, I look at the 6.5 PRC and the 300 PRC and I think they will be like the 375 Ruger and Norma magnums and will not have allot of support or mainstream popularity. The belted magnums have been around for a long time and still have a lot of support for as old as they are. |
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Posted: 4/13/2020 8:01:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RePp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lost_Phil: My buddy just bought a Christensen Arms 300 WM for hunting Elk out west and I am looking at putting a 300 WM together some time in the next few months. I am also thinking of building a 264 WM at the same time as well . On a side note, I look at the 6.5 PRC and the 300 PRC and I think they will be like the 375 Ruger and Norma magnums and will not have allot of support or mainstream popularity. The belted magnums have been around for a long time and still have a lot of support for as old as they are. I've shot a lot of 7, 300 and 264 mags and while I think their awesome I wouldn't buy a belted magnum in this day and age. The belt is all kinds of fuckery and theres alot of really good options out there. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 10:14:56 PM EDT
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I just bought a SRS A1 last year and got it in 308 Win and 300WM.
They do what I want them to do and I don't need the latest and greatest for my shooting. |
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