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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:38:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
There are multiple clone threads in the AR-15 forum for retro M16s’, M4/M4A1, M4 Block II, Mk18, and Mk12. I think it’s time the precision rifle sub-forum gets its own clone thread. My list is non comprehensive. I’m not an expert and have not gotten to finger every gun out there. So if there is anything that needs to be addressed, fixed, or added, let me know.

If there is a rifle I am missing (which I know I am), PM me the rifle and any info you have about it and I will add it to the list.

Let the editing begin

M24



  • Action
    • Remington 700 Long Action
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    • Barrel
      • 24" M24 Contour barrel by Remington in .308
    • Scope base
      • Leupold MK4 base (I believe Badger makes an M24 spec base also)
      • Leupold Mk4 rings
    • Stock
      • HS Precision Tactical Rifle Stock w/ adjustable buttplate
      • Remington BDL bottom metal
    • Optics
      • Leupold MK4 M3
      • Redfield Palma iron sights (no longer made, but there are reproductions available)
    M24A2
    • Action
      • Remington 700 Long Action
    • Barrel
      • 24" M24 Contour stainless 5R barrel .308; 1:11.25 twist rate *modified for OPS INC 12th Model suppressor)
    • Scope base
      • Remington MARS
    • Stock
      • HS Precision  (model PST026)
    • Optics
      • Leupold MK4 M3
    • Suppressor
      • OPS INC .30 muzzle brake
      • OPS INC 12th Model suppressor
      • AAC muzzle brake
      • AAC 762SD suppressor

    Remington 700 Urban Sniper Rifle: basic concept of the M24A2, but short action and 20" barrel. This pic shows the suppressor modification
    XM2010
    • Action
      • Remington 700 Long Action
    • Barrel
      • 22" 5R profile .300 Win mag 1:10" twist
      • AAC 90T muzzle brake (TiTan)
    • Stock
      • Remington RACS (~$4500 price tag, although the Drake Associates CADEX chassis is about half the price of the RACS and is very similar)
    • Optics
      • Leupold MK4 ERT 6.5-20x with H58 reticle
      • Badger scope rings
    • Suppressor
      • AAC TiTan
    M40
    • Action
      • Remington 700 Short Action; clip slotted
    • Barrel
      • 24" Varmint contour barrel in .308 (1/12" twist rate); parkerized
    • Scope base
      • Redfield (Badger makes Vietnam era scope base/ring reproductions that are spec to the M40)
    • Stock
      • Walnut sporter stock with Monte Carlo cheekpiece
      • Bottom metal - *still researching*
    • Optics
      • Redfield Accurange 3-9x40 (green anodized; 1st Gen) - SWFA has new reproductions of this scope
      • Redfield Accurange 3-9x40 (black satin anodized; 2nd Gen)
    M40A1
    • Action
      • Remington 700 Short Action; clip slotted
    • Barrel
      • 25" (24" from breach) M24/M40 contour barrel in .308 (1/12" twist rate)
    • Scope base
      • Unertl (Finding an original scope mount will be difficult and expensive. Leupold traditional 1-pc scope base would probably suffice, however, there are reproductions of the original scope base use for the M40A1 such as Badger Ordnance)
      • Unertl 1" scope rings (same as above)
    • Stock
      • McMillan HTG in forest camo
      • Winchester Model 70 bottom metal
    • Optics
      • Unertl 10x USMC SNIPER scope (hard to find. US Optics MST-100 acceptable, but also hard to find)
    M40A3
    • Action
      • Remington 700 Short Action; clip slotted
    • Barrel
      • Schneider 25" (24" from breach) M24/M40 contour barrel in .308 (1/12" twist rate)
    • Scope base
      • DD ROSS or Badger 30MOA
      • Badger M40 rings and SIMRAD cap
    • Stock
      • McMillan A4 in OD green
      • DD ROSS bottom metal
      • PGW night vision mount (optional)
      • US Optics M40MVP night vision mount (optional)
    • Optics
      • Unertl 10x USMC SNIPER scope (hard to find. US Optics MST-100 acceptable, but also hard to find)
      • Schmidt & Bender 3-12x50
    M40A5
    • Action
      • Remington 700 Short Action; clip slotted
    • Barrel
      • Schneider 25" (24" from breach) M24/M40 contour barrel in .308 (1/12" twist rate)
    • Scope base
      • DD ROSS or Badger 30MOA
      • Badger M40 rings and SIMRAD cap
    • Stock
      • McMillan A4 in OD green
      • Badger A5 bottom metal
      • PGW night vision mount
    • Suppressor
      • Surefire FA762SS
    • Optics
      • Schmidt & Bender 3-12x50
      • Premier Reticles 3-15x50
    M40A7<ul style="font-size: 10.6667px;">
  • Action
    • Remington 700 Short Action; clip slotted
  • Barrel
    • 19" barrel (probably 18" from bolt face)
    • 24" barrel (M40A5 to M40A7 transition)
  • Stock
    • Remington LW RACS
  • Suppressor
    • Surefire FA762SS
  • Optics
    • Schmidt & Bender 3-12x50











XM3



  • Action
    • Remington 700 Short Action
    • IBA bolt knob
  • Barrel
    • Hart 18.5" stainless steel barrel in .308 (unsure of contour and twist rate)
    • Surefire FH762SSAL/RE flash hider
  • Scope base
    • IBA (Badger or Nightforce acceptable) - 20MOA?
    • Nightforce .885 Ultra Light Scope Rings
  • Stock
    • McMillan A 1-3 in OD green
    • IBA UNS night vision mount
  • Suppressor
    • Surefire FA762SS
  • Optics
    • Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50  w/ Zero Stop




























Mk13 Mod1/2/3







  • Action
    • Remington 700 Long Action
    • M16 Extractor mod
    • "L" shaped recoil lug with 3rd action screw
  • Barrel
    • Lilja 27” barrel in .300 WM (1/10” twist) - modified for Knights Armament MK11 suppressor (Mod 3 & 4)
  • Scope base
    • McCann MIRS (30 MOA?)
  • Stock
    • McMillan A2
  • Optics
    • Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56
  • Suppressor
    • Knights Armament MK11 suppressor
























    Mk13 Mod 5



    • Action
      • Remington 700 Long Action
      • M16 Extractor mod
    • Barrel
      • Lilja 26” barrel in .300 WM (1/10” twist); contoured for Knight Armament Mk11 Suppressor
    • Scope base
      • Remington/Badger MARS
      • Nightforce 20 MOA scope base with Badger IMUNS for AICS
    • Stock
      • AICS 2.0 in dark earth
    • Suppressor
      • Knights Armament Mk11
    • Optics
      • Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 (Navy)
      • Nightforce Mil-Spec 3.5-15x50F1 (Army)
      • Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PSR
      • Horus 5-20x50 Falcon
















    Mk13 Mod 5.5 (not really a designation, but it is a hybrid between the Mod 5 and Mod 7)



    • Action
      • Stiller Mk13 action (Stiller Tac-300 acceptable for clone)
    • Barrel
      • Lilja 26” barrel in .300 WM (1/10” twist); contoured for Knight Armament Mk11 Suppressor
    • Scope base
      • Remington/Badger MARS (30 MOA?)
    • Stock
      • AICS 2.0 in dark earth
    • Suppressor
      • Knights Armament Mk11
    • Optics
      • Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 (Navy)
      • Nightforce Mil-Spec 3.5-15x50F1 (Army)
      • Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PSR










    Mk13 Mod 6



    • Action
      • Remington 700 Long Action *Left Handed*
      • M16 Extractor mod
    • Barrel
      • Lilja 26” barrel in .300 WM (1/10” twist); contoured for Knight Armament Mk11 Suppressor
    • Scope base
      • Remington/Badger MARS (30 MOA?)
    • Stock
      • AICS 2.0 in dark earth
    • Suppressor
      • Knights Armament Mk11
    • Optics
      • Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56
      • Nightforce Mil-Spec 3.5-15x50F1
      • Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PSR










    Mk13 Mod 7



    • Action
      • Stiller Mk13 Action (Stiller TAC-300 acceptable for clone)
      • M16 Extractor mod
    • Barrel
      • Lilja 26” barrel in .300 WM (1/10” twist); threaded for muzzle device
      • Surefire SOCOM muzzle brake
      • Advanced Armament 90T muzzle brake
    • Scope base
      • Accuracy International scope base for Stiller action (unsure of cant)
    • Stock
      • AI Mk13 chassis in pale brown (AI AX could possibly be used for clone)
    • Suppressor
      • Surefire SOCOM762RC in FDE
      • Advanced Armament Mk13-SD
    • Optics
      • Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 PSR




    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 6:06:04 AM EDT
    [#1]
    My Mk13 Mod 5.5-ish

    -Remington 700 Long Action
    -M16 extractor mod
    -Lilja 26" .300 WM MK13 contour (1/10" twist). I opted to have it profiled for a Knights M110 suppressor
    - KAC M110 suppressor
    -AICS 2.0
    -Remington MARS 30MOA
    - S&B 5-25x56 PSR with H-59 reticle mounted in a Spuhr 0 MOA mount

    Bolt fluted and tac knob done by Long Rifles, Inc



    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 7:52:09 AM EDT
    [Last Edit: akethan] [#2]
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 9:12:40 AM EDT
    [#3]
    Awesome post!
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 9:58:14 AM EDT
    [#4]
    This build didn't cost me much, relatively. Thank God for student discounts.

    All work done by me. Scope base and up is not "correct" but I'm a college student so don't hate.


    Remington 700 SA .300 WSM - Accurized
    25" Shilen (From blank)
    PTG M16 Extractor on factory Rem bolt opened up to .740"
    McMillan A5 (From flat-top, action and cylinder full bed)
    Badger M5 DBM w/ Alpha Industries Type 3 Mag
    Larue Tactical 20 MOA Short Action base
    EGW Rings
    Vortex Viper PST 6-24x55 FFP
    Surefire MB762SSAL/RE




    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 12:45:12 PM EDT
    [#5]
    And what is that a clone of? Congrats on the build, but I'm not sure if it belongs in this thread.

    OP, thanks for taking the time to put this together.
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 2:23:36 PM EDT
    [#6]
    Here are my "clones". First one is an A3 built at PWS by an active duty marine. He is also building me an A1 at the moment as well that will be finished as soon as McMillan is done with my stock :). Second is a remington made M24 from the rebuild program. Both shoot extremely well. Last picture is a Knights M110K1ish, still need the URX3.1 and Mk8.  


    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 3:42:59 PM EDT
    [#7]
    Originally Posted By sobieras:
    Here are my "clones". First one is an A3 built at PWS by an active duty marine. He is also building me an A1 at the moment as well that will be finished as soon as McMillan is done with my stock :). Second is a remington made M24 from the rebuild program. Both shoot extremely well. Last picture is a Knights M110K1ish, still need the URX3.1 and Mk8.  
    <a href="http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/scatsob/media/IMG_20140410_123830_zps1b18f4b8.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/scatsob/IMG_20140410_123830_zps1b18f4b8.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/scatsob/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ejt_zpsb728985e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/scatsob/Mobile%20Uploads/ejt_zpsb728985e.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/scatsob/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140719_214519_zps0f058ded.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag114/scatsob/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140719_214519_zps0f058ded.jpg</a>
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    Nice. Mind telling my how much that A3 cost minus optics?
    Was it built at PWS or is it a side business?
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 4:11:05 PM EDT
    [#8]
    The Mk13 Mod 6 is a left handed Mod5. They are out there, and I've seen most at the sniper school at Bragg. The rifle you have pictured as a Mod6 is a prototype Mod7.

    The correct, issued optic for the Mk13 Mod5, 5.5 and 6 - varies depending on service. The Navy uses Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 riflescopes and the Army was the Nightforce Mil-Spec 3.5-15x50F1. Individuals and various platoons may have swapped things out as desired, but the above are correct as issued from Crane-once it gets to the unit and individual, they can add what the want. As an FYI, I'm not familiar with any unit level purchase of Horus branded optics, but do know of Bushnell HDMR's and S&B's being used as alternatives at the small unit level.

    The Mod7's have either S&B PSR scopes, Night force 3.5-15x50F1 or Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 depending on service.
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 4:59:48 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: dangerdan] [#9]
    Originally Posted By Lawman734:
    The Mk13 Mod 6 is a left handed Mod5. They are out there, and I've seen most at the sniper school at Bragg. The rifle you have pictured as a Mod6 is a prototype Mod7.

    The correct, issued optic for the Mk13 Mod5, 5.5 and 6 - varies depending on service. The Navy uses Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 riflescopes and the Army was the Nightforce Mil-Spec 3.5-15x50F1. Individuals and various platoons may have swapped things out as desired, but the above are correct as issued from Crane-once it gets to the unit and individual, they can add what the want. As an FYI, I'm not familiar with any unit level purchase of Horus branded optics, but do know of Bushnell HDMR's and S&B's being used as alternatives at the small unit level.

    The Mod7's have either S&B PSR scopes, Night force 3.5-15x50F1 or Nightforce Mil-Spec 5.5-22x56 depending on service.
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    One if the MIL/LE/GOV guys at Nightforce commented saying that the rifle pictures in the Mod 6 section, is a Mod 6. Does the Army have left handed M24s?
    I believe this is a Marine, using a Horus scope on a Mod 5.
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 5:16:33 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: Lawman734] [#10]
    That'd be me - that was around before the Mod7 was actually officially settled and accepted. Specifically the dark earth color and base to make a long continuous upper rail, but look at the magwell cutout - that's a prototype stock. The Army is the only ones I've seen with left handed Mk13's, but that doesn't mean the Navy doesn't have them, it's just that I haven't seen them.

    Again, individuals may have added what they wanted - especially in the beginning  when there weren't a lot of Horus based scopes readily available. Just because you have a picture with one doesn't mean it was regularly used. I can find pics of a USO equipped Mk13 Mod5 and M40A5's with Nightforce F1's, but it doesn't mean they were regular issue.
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 6:52:51 PM EDT
    [#11]
    It was built at PWS in Quantico. My cost is pretty skewed because I got some parts for almost nothing and the action was free from parting out a gun. Below is what all the parts would run.

    Action $400 or so
    Barrel $350
    Bottom metal $330
    Stock $900
    Recoil lug $30
    Scope rail $415 for DD Ross $200 for badger (I got the DD Ross unit)
    Rings with SIMRAD cap $325
    M24 trigger $300+ if you can find one
    PGW EFR $250

    That's well into $3k just for the parts. Obviously if you shop around you can get deal here and there. I fell into my M24 trigger from a neighbor of mine. I also watched gunbroker for scope and was able to snag one for $2800 which I thought was a pretty good deal.
    Link Posted: 9/21/2014 11:30:39 PM EDT
    [#12]
    YES!


    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 9:15:16 AM EDT
    [Last Edit: dangerdan] [#13]
    Edited OP for better ease of reading and updated information
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 12:40:35 PM EDT
    [#14]
    Subscribed.

    Woodland cammies FTW!
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 2:22:29 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: dangerdan] [#15]
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    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 3:33:06 PM EDT
    [#16]
    As an FYI, the base on the Mk13 Mod7 is an AI base designed for the Stiller Mk13 action. The AAC Mk13SD is also a correct brake and suppressor for this rifle.
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 4:25:26 PM EDT
    [#17]
    Originally Posted By Lawman734:
    As an FYI, the base on the Mk13 Mod7 is an AI base designed for the Stiller Mk13 action. The AAC Mk13SD is also a correct brake and suppressor for this rifle.
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    Yeah. I forgot to to fix that. I got carried away with copy/paste
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 6:02:22 PM EDT
    [#18]
    Also, the Badger DBM is correct for the M40A3. The A5 designation comes when the SureFire brake is added.
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 6:15:16 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: dangerdan] [#19]


    Originally Posted By sobieras:



    Also, the Badger DBM is correct for the M40A3. The A5 designation comes when the SureFire brake is added.
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    The M40A3s we had didn't have the Badger M5 bottom metal. They were BDL with DD Ross bottom metal


     
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 7:06:57 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: sobieras] [#20]
    Perhaps they were transitional guns but they were out there. They had A3's here at 2nd MSOB with Badger DBM's and below is a table of A3's at PWS my smith took when working on my gun. It's a cell phone picture but you can barely make out the mag release tab on the first gun.



    Originally Posted By dangerdan:
    Originally Posted By sobieras:
    Also, the Badger DBM is correct for the M40A3. The A5 designation comes when the SureFire brake is added.
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    The M40A3s we had didn't have the Badger M5 bottom metal. They were BDL with DD Ross bottom metal  
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    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 7:32:02 PM EDT
    [#21]
    Mk12 didn't make the list.



    But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet.
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 7:37:12 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: dangerdan] [#22]


    Originally Posted By RTUtah:



    Mk12 didn't make the list.





    But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet.
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    Mk12 didn't make the list because it already has it's own thread


     



    I wonder of there will be droves of Mk13 Mod 1s or that other .300 WM that the Navy uses when the American Sniper movie comes out like what Lone Survivor did for the Mk12s
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 7:43:43 PM EDT
    [#23]

    Originally Posted By dangerdan:



    Originally Posted By RTUtah:

    Mk12 didn't make the list.



    But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet.
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    Mk12 didn't make the list because it already has it's own thread  


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    I wonder of there will be droves of Mk13 Mod 1s or that other .300 WM that the Navy uses when the American Sniper movie comes out like what Lone Survivor did for the Mk12s


    Haha, I kid I kid. When is that flick supposed to come out?



     
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 8:02:49 PM EDT
    [#24]
    Great thread!
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 8:40:30 PM EDT
    [#25]
    Originally Posted By dangerdan:
    My Mk13 Mod 5.5-ish

    -Remington 700 Long Action
    -M16 extractor mod
    -Lilja 26" .300 WM MK13 contour (1/10" twist). I opted to have it profiled for a Knights M110 suppressor
    - KAC M110 suppressor
    -AICS 2.0
    -Remington MARS 30MOA
    - S&B 5-25x56 PSR with H-59 reticle mounted in a Spuhr 0 MOA mount

    Bolt fluted and tac knob done by Long Rifles, Inc

    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg</a>
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    Are you cool with that knob being offset like that?
    Link Posted: 9/22/2014 8:45:35 PM EDT
    [#26]

    Originally Posted By ziarifleman:



    Originally Posted By dangerdan:

    My Mk13 Mod 5.5-ish



    -Remington 700 Long Action

    -M16 extractor mod

    -Lilja 26" .300 WM MK13 contour (1/10" twist). I opted to have it profiled for a Knights M110 suppressor

    - KAC M110 suppressor

    -AICS 2.0

    -Remington MARS 30MOA

    - S&B 5-25x56 PSR with H-59 reticle mounted in a Spuhr 0 MOA mount



    Bolt fluted and tac knob done by Long Rifles, Inc



    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/AB84F4DF-867B-4568-9765-BDB5D068655E_zpsdkqvu2gu.jpg</a>

    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/8D48512F-EBFB-4A01-84AC-3751D3EBFF0C_zps36omrll7.jpg</a>

    <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/null_zpsd55b566e.jpg</a>
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    Are you cool with that knob being offset like that?
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    It's not. Picture angle makes it seem like that.

     
    Long Rifles, Inc does great work
    Link Posted: 9/23/2014 7:54:30 AM EDT
    [#27]
    Interesting idea, I am down for the historical perspective. Not a huge fan of the "Poser Factor"!

    Not sure how many pics you want to post here, but there are a bunch at the Hog Saddle website, especially of the USMC stuff:
    http://www.hogsaddle.com/overseas.html

    Also may want to add:
    M21
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M21_Sniper_Weapon_System



    M110
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M110_Semi-Automatic_Sniper_System



    M2010
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle



    Thanks, Best of Luck,
    M Richardson

    PS: if you want the true dirt on anything Army Sniper related, track down Sinister, he is a walking encyclopedia.
    Link Posted: 9/23/2014 9:09:53 AM EDT
    [#28]
    In on this thread, trying to join the Mk13 Mod 5 party. I figured I'll have to budget every bit of $8k to put this thing together. I'm thinking the first step will either be to 1) purchase the KAC Mk11 Suppressor or 2) Secure the Chassis
    Link Posted: 9/23/2014 9:23:53 AM EDT
    [Last Edit: Great_Balls_of_Fire] [#29]
    Additionally--
    I have been looking at some tripod setups. Anyone have any recommendations? Was thinking about going with:
    - HOG saddle
    - Manfrotto Tripod  055 Series (Carbon or Aluminum )
    - Manfrotto X-PRO 3-way head

    Seems like it works for this dude:


    Link Posted: 9/23/2014 10:54:04 AM EDT
    [Last Edit: Lawman734] [#30]
    Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
    In on this thread, trying to join the Mk13 Mod 5 party. I figured I'll have to budget every bit of $8k to put this thing together. I'm thinking the first step will either be to 1) purchase the KAC Mk11 Suppressor or 2) Secure the Chassis
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    I'd try to find the Mk11 suppressor since they're fairly limited. Chassis's can be picked up fairly easily.....

    I had some friends spin me up a Mod5 contour barrel for a Mk11 suppressor I had laying around without a rifle. I'll get it built up someday. It's definitely a different setup, even if not the most ideal way of mounting a suppressor. It's capable of good accuracy, the limiting factor is the suppressor in that it needs to be "shot in" and then if it's bumped at all, accuracy goes to shit. I shot the Mk13 Mod5 that's pictured sitting on a porch extensively. This was a new rifle, but cranked out 1/2MOA groups without any issues - until the suppressor got a good lateral knock.
    Link Posted: 9/23/2014 12:08:29 PM EDT
    [#31]

    Originally Posted By Lawman734:



    Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:

    In on this thread, trying to join the Mk13 Mod 5 party. I figured I'll have to budget every bit of $8k to put this thing together. I'm thinking the first step will either be to 1) purchase the KAC Mk11 Suppressor or 2) Secure the Chassis
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    I'd try to find the Mk11 suppressor since they're fairly limited. Chassis's can be picked up fairly easily.....



    I had some friends spin me up a Mod5 contour barrel for a Mk11 suppressor I had laying around without a rifle. I'll get it built up someday. It's definitely a different setup, even if not the most ideal way of mounting a suppressor. It's capable of good accuracy, the limiting factor is the suppressor in that it needs to be "shot in" and then if it's bumped at all, accuracy goes to shit. I shot the Mk13 Mod5 that's pictured sitting on a porch extensively. This was a new rifle, but cranked out 1/2MOA groups without any issues - until the suppressor got a good lateral knock.
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    Does Crane crank out barrels with the generic dimentions or do they fit each suppressor?

    I had to send my suppressor in to be fitted
    Link Posted: 9/23/2014 1:41:28 PM EDT
    [#32]
    Originally Posted By dangerdan:
    Does Crane crank out barrels with the generic dimentions or do they fit each suppressor?
    I had to send my suppressor in to be fitted
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    Ideally they're supposed to be fit to the barrel to insure proper fit without excess slop. I got lucky in the case of mine as it's a snug fit without any excess slop.



    I'd have to check, but if I recall correctly, the Mk13 Mod4 was a Mod5 barreled action in a McMillan A2 w/ McCann rail - it also used the Mk11 suppressor though.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 10:22:28 AM EDT
    [#33]
    Originally Posted By captrichardson:
    Interesting idea, I am down for the historical perspective. Not a huge fan of the "Poser Factor"!

    Not sure how many pics you want to post here, but there are a bunch at the Hog Saddle website, especially of the USMC stuff:
    http://www.hogsaddle.com/overseas.html

    Also may want to add:
    M21
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M21_Sniper_Weapon_System
    <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/captcarbine/media/M21_zps9abffea4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/captcarbine/M21_zps9abffea4.jpg</a>


    M110
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M110_Semi-Automatic_Sniper_System
    <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/captcarbine/media/M110_zpsf44cf42e.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/captcarbine/M110_zpsf44cf42e.jpg</a>


    M2010
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle
    <a href="http://s36.photobucket.com/user/captcarbine/media/XM2010_zps2bd6cab1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e30/captcarbine/XM2010_zps2bd6cab1.jpg</a>


    Thanks, Best of Luck,
    M Richardson

    PS: if you want the true dirt on anything Army Sniper related, track down Sinister, he is a walking encyclopedia.
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    The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section.
    The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum.
    This is really the only subforum for bolt guns.

    I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs.
    The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 11:21:43 AM EDT
    [#34]

    Originally Posted By dangerdan:



    Originally Posted By RTUtah:

    Mk12 didn't make the list.



    But for cereal though, that short-action XM3 is fucking sweet.
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    Mk12 didn't make the list because it already has it's own thread  


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    I wonder of there will be droves of Mk13 Mod 1s or that other .300 WM that the Navy uses when the American Sniper movie comes out like what Lone Survivor did for the Mk12s




     
    According to Kevin, HCS built at least a couple MK13s for the film.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 11:27:24 AM EDT
    [#35]
    Im just here to support the dirty Marine. Nah finally a thread I can post pics in besides block 1. Pics up shortly dirty Dan
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 12:44:25 PM EDT
    [#36]
    Originally Posted By dangerdan:

    The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section.
    The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum.
    This is really the only subforum for bolt guns.

    I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs.
    The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis.
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    The M21 actually was the primary US Army Sniper Rifle during the 60s, 70s, 80s, until the M24 came into the picture in 1988. I completed my first Sniper School in 1986 with a M21. It latter became more of a DMR rifle when it was re-issued post 9/11 in Iraq & Astan. If you are good with the M1A section covering it, so be it.

    The M110 actually replaced the M24 in a number of units as the primary Sniper Rifle. If you want to call it good with the other sections, so be it.

    The 2010:
    Specs:
    http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/XM2010.aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle
    If you check the references at the bottom, there are a number of additional resources.

    You can actually purchase a RACS chassis if you would like:
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/products_id/711006212/RACS+Remington+Accessory+Chassis+System+Complete+Assembly+Fits+M/
    So if you are the person that must have a 100% correct reproduction, it is possible, though it will cost you over $4K!

    Thanks, Best of Luck,
    M Richardson
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 12:55:56 PM EDT
    [#37]

    Originally Posted By captrichardson:



    Originally Posted By dangerdan:



    The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section.

    The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum.

    This is really the only subforum for bolt guns.



    I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs.

    The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis.

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    The M21 actually was the primary US Army Sniper Rifle during the 60s, 70s, 80s, until the M24 came into the picture in 1988. I completed my first Sniper School in 1986 with a M21. It latter became more of a DMR rifle when it was re-issued post 9/11 in Iraq & Astan. If you are good with the M1A section covering it, so be it.



    The M110 actually replaced the M24 in a number of units as the primary Sniper Rifle. If you want to call it good with the other sections, so be it.



    The 2010:

    Specs:

    http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/XM2010.aspx



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle

    If you check the references at the bottom, there are a number of additional resources.



    You can actually purchase a RACS chassis if you would like:

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/products_id/711006212/RACS+Remington+Accessory+Chassis+System+Complete+Assembly+Fits+M/

    So if you are the person that must have a 100% correct reproduction, it is possible, though it will cost you over $4K!



    Thanks, Best of Luck,

    M Richardson
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    $4K for that chassis? Wow...




    That's a new level of insanity.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 1:05:48 PM EDT
    [#38]
    Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
    Originally Posted By captrichardson:
    Originally Posted By dangerdan:

    The reasoning why I left out the M21 and variants thereof, is because it's more of a DMR than a primary sniper rifle, and should be posted in the M1A section.
    The same for the M110 and Mk11, although not a DMR, it should be posted in the AR variant forum or KAC forum.
    This is really the only subforum for bolt guns.

    I'll work on the XM2010. Trying to dig up more specs. I assume the barrel is made by Remington. I'm not sure on the specs.
    The only viable stock option that I see for an XM2010 clone is the Drake Associates chassis.
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    The M21 actually was the primary US Army Sniper Rifle during the 60s, 70s, 80s, until the M24 came into the picture in 1988. I completed my first Sniper School in 1986 with a M21. It latter became more of a DMR rifle when it was re-issued post 9/11 in Iraq & Astan. If you are good with the M1A section covering it, so be it.

    The M110 actually replaced the M24 in a number of units as the primary Sniper Rifle. If you want to call it good with the other sections, so be it.

    The 2010:
    Specs:
    http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/XM2010.aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2010_Enhanced_Sniper_Rifle
    If you check the references at the bottom, there are a number of additional resources.

    You can actually purchase a RACS chassis if you would like:
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/products_id/711006212/RACS+Remington+Accessory+Chassis+System+Complete+Assembly+Fits+M/
    So if you are the person that must have a 100% correct reproduction, it is possible, though it will cost you over $4K!

    Thanks, Best of Luck,
    M Richardson
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      $4K for that chassis? Wow...

    That's a new level of insanity.
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    There are a number of questionable things about the 2010.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 1:35:12 PM EDT
    [#39]
    The XM3 sure is sexy...















































    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 2:04:19 PM EDT
    [#40]
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 3:23:42 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: dangerdan] [#41]
    Going through several pics of the XM3, it looks like some might have fluted barrels.
    I haven't personally seen one. All of ours weren't fluted.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 4:30:45 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: wayfaerer320] [#42]
    Trying to locate an online retailer that offers the A2 or A3 McMillan stock (for an XM3 build) at a decent price - any recommendations?

     



    EDIT: I meant, A 1-3
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 4:43:01 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: Lawman734] [#43]
    Pricing seems to be about the same wherever you go, it's just a matter of how fast you can get it. I called George at GA Precision to get one he had in stock for my build. I wasn't concerned about color because paint fixes everything, but I didnt want to wait 5+ months from McMillan at the time.

    I've got an XM2010 with the RACS chassis (actually plan on selling it). It's nothing special - Remington long action with a Remmy barrel and an AAC Titan QD mount.The contour is specific to the rifle. I do know Bartlein has the specs for the contour as that's where I got mine.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 5:03:22 PM EDT
    [#44]
    If you want one now, McMIllan has one ready to go for $525, I'd buy it before I do :)
    There is also a few listed on Snipershide from $410
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 5:25:17 PM EDT
    [#45]

    Originally Posted By gutermung919:


    If you want one now, McMIllan has one ready to go for $525, I'd buy it before I do :)

    There is also a few listed on Snipershide from $410
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    Where on SnipersHide? I can't seem to find them.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 5:32:15 PM EDT
    [#46]
    Great thread. I have a rifle I bought used that seems to lean towards M40A5, but it is not close enough to "correct" for me to post it here.
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 5:49:24 PM EDT
    [#47]
    The ones on snipershide are in the options for sale section, They're prolly a few pages in by now, but im sure if you do a search they'll pop up. One is a guy that was doing a xm3 clone, and the other listing is a company that bought a bunch of them and is now selling them for 410, #5 and #7 barrel channels
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 8:38:19 PM EDT
    [#48]
    If anyone is interested, here is the story about how the XM3 came to be: http://stevereicherttraining.com/darpa-xm3/
    Link Posted: 9/26/2014 10:49:05 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: WhiteDingo] [#49]
    This M40A1 is my personal rifle; I had to sell it a few months ago due to some latent hospital bills from my daughter's birth. One heck of a shooter.
    Full spec build, minus the 6-digit re-build receiver (I had a 5-digit). Return stock and Schneider tube. I miss it.



    I built these in 2012 as a pair for a customer; no way I have that much money.


    Link Posted: 9/27/2014 9:04:53 PM EDT
    [Last Edit: Ironmaker] [#50]




    I knew I liked the looks of the XM3.  I bought this rifle used in 2005.  It was the Remington Coyote Varmint.  Org 26" and that awful black and grey speckled stock.  The most recent change is the barrel cut again, from 22" to 20" and machined to mount my AE30 suppressor.

    ETA: corrected original model name.
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