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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: There was a thread on Snipershide with some 9mm bolt action pre order but I think it was a 700 based action which didn't make any sense to me. I totally agree that a dedicated 9mm sized or just pistol caliber sized action would be pretty cool. Something like a toggle or straight pull with high cap mags would be fantastic. Couple people have converted the Armscor/RIA 22 TCM bolt actions to 9mm with some success. View Quote The Armscor 22TCM bolt action conversion takes a little bit of work to the bolt face (about .014" diameter difference between the rims), but you can actually just turn a 9mm AR barrel (that's a White Label Armory barrel in the picture below) to the correct thread tenon dimensions and cut a feed ramp in once the barrel is timed. Works like a charm. Attached File |
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I wish a shop would do them. SIA did a few Novem carbines but the others I’ve seen were one offs. Still not ideal as the work and barrel could cost the same as the gun if not more.
Give me a Ruger American with the same magwell as their PCC. |
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I have a mini fix but unfortunately it's back at Q for warranty work. Started to have light primer strikes. If they don't get it back to me in a timely manner I will ask for a refund. I really love the gun and it is the most fun gun to shoot suppressed. I just think the action has some flaws that are starting to pop up. I'm not the only one. I also want a short bolt action for supers not sure what caliber yet.
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I wish a shop would do them. SIA did a few Novem carbines but the others I’ve seen were one offs. Still not ideal as the work and barrel could cost the same as the gun if not more. Give me a Ruger American with the same magwell as their PCC. View Quote yeah, a bolt action 9mm (or 45) that took glock mags? That I would buy. Doesn't make sense to me to get into rifle length rounds just to make them subsonic for quiet plinking. But a 147gn 9mm that sounds like a 22? That would be fun |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By mc556: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Yup the new 8.6 Blackout is pretty close. It’s not just a neck up though I’m pretty sure it’s shortened a bit to allow those long ass 338 bullets View Quote The 8.6 blackout was going to be called 8.6 creedmoor. What started with me being sarcastic may actually be a cool pistol round. I didn’t get around to mentioning it, but what I’d really like is a 9mm bolt action pistol with a length appropriate action. I’m not sure how much demand there would be. It would be a very cool suppressor host with 147 subs. The draw would be cheap to shoot especially if reloading. View Quote There was a thread on Snipershide with some 9mm bolt action pre order but I think it was a 700 based action which didn't make any sense to me. I totally agree that a dedicated 9mm sized or just pistol caliber sized action would be pretty cool. Something like a toggle or straight pull with high cap mags would be fantastic. I think the reason we don't see them is most prefer a semi auto. Couple people have converted the Armscor/RIA 22 TCM bolt actions to 9mm with some success. View Quote There was. There was a one off custom that I believe a GAP employee made that was based off a CZ or something that took Glock mags. I forget the price but it was sold before I saw it. Wasn’t cheap but was pretty bad ass. This thread has me thinking about a few options for big bore. 45 Raptor being a thought. I have a molds for .452 bullets and also my .45 lc dies would work on the seating and crimp. I’d just need cut, ream &trim 30-06 brass or buy Starline For a 9mm I’d like to dream up something using AR platform with locking bolt |
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Originally Posted By WhiteDingo: The Armscor 22TCM bolt action conversion takes a little bit of work to the bolt face (about .014" diameter difference between the rims), but you can actually just turn a 9mm AR barrel (that's a White Label Armory barrel in the picture below) to the correct thread tenon dimensions and cut a feed ramp in once the barrel is timed. Works like a charm. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65278/IMG_20210613_172821_245_jpg-2371465.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WhiteDingo: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: There was a thread on Snipershide with some 9mm bolt action pre order but I think it was a 700 based action which didn't make any sense to me. I totally agree that a dedicated 9mm sized or just pistol caliber sized action would be pretty cool. Something like a toggle or straight pull with high cap mags would be fantastic. Couple people have converted the Armscor/RIA 22 TCM bolt actions to 9mm with some success. The Armscor 22TCM bolt action conversion takes a little bit of work to the bolt face (about .014" diameter difference between the rims), but you can actually just turn a 9mm AR barrel (that's a White Label Armory barrel in the picture below) to the correct thread tenon dimensions and cut a feed ramp in once the barrel is timed. Works like a charm. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65278/IMG_20210613_172821_245_jpg-2371465.JPG Does the action copy any pattern or is it a original Armscor design? Just thinking about stock/chassis options. I was thinking about how cmmg uses a modified AR bolt for their delayed 9mm system. Maybe make a locking version. What you have there looks like a much easier path for sure than what I was thinking. |
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Originally Posted By mc556: Does the action copy any pattern or is it a original Armscor design? Just thinking about stock/chassis options. I was thinking about how cmmg uses a modified AR bolt for their delayed 9mm system. Maybe make a locking version. What you have there looks like a much easier path for sure than what I was thinking. View Quote I've not seen any aftermarket stocks that fit the Armscor action; it doesn't fit any other receiver pattern that I know of. Your options are the factory wood, or the "M22 Tactical" synthetic, at least as far as I'm aware. |
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Originally Posted By System Message:
Why can't you guys participate in a simple discussion about some guy's mom making a porno without violating the COC? This is why we can't have nice things. |
Just added the Fortis Torque PG, in carbon fiber. Stopped in at Capitol Armory today, to discuss mounting options for my Dead Air Nomad Ti. They suggested going with a direct mount so I may do that.
Next addition will be a decent bipod. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Clint50: Just added the Fortis Torque PG, in carbon fiber. Stopped in at Capitol Armory today, to discuss mounting options for my Dead Air Nomad Ti. They suggested going with a direct mount so I may do that. Next addition will be a decent bipod. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52988/MPP-16_JPG-2372609.JPG View Quote Grip looks good. I was thinking the same thing. What 1913 folder is that and can you change buffer tubes? Looking for options when I SBR mine... |
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Originally Posted By Jlgil73: Grip looks good. I was thinking the same thing. What 1913 folder is that and can you change buffer tubes? Looking for options when I SBR mine... https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52051183191_b3a97cf925_k.jpg View Quote That was the brace that was on my 223 MPP, when I purchased it at my LGS. I prefer this one so when I purchased my 300bkt MPP, I swapped the braces The buffer tube can probably be changed but I haven't tried to take anything apart, yet. |
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Originally Posted By Clint50: Just added the Fortis Torque PG, in carbon fiber. Stopped in at Capitol Armory today, to discuss mounting options for my Dead Air Nomad Ti. They suggested going with a direct mount so I may do that. Next addition will be a decent bipod. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52988/MPP-16_JPG-2372609.JPG View Quote I need stop looking at these! |
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Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: I need stop looking at these! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: Originally Posted By Clint50: Just added the Fortis Torque PG, in carbon fiber. Stopped in at Capitol Armory today, to discuss mounting options for my Dead Air Nomad Ti. They suggested going with a direct mount so I may do that. Next addition will be a decent bipod. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52988/MPP-16_JPG-2372609.JPG I need stop looking at these! No, You need one for science... |
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Curtis Tactical was working on or now has a 9mm bolt action. TFB did a write upa while back.
I’ve got an AEM5-30 that isn’t being used at the moment and was thinking of doing as short of a .300 BLK SBR as possible to take it. Would be a great hunting rig with supers and also have the ability to run subs for the stupid fun. I’ll have to look into all the chassis options and what minimal barrel length I could get away with. |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: Curtis Tactical was working on or now has a 9mm bolt action. TFB did a write upa while back. I’ve got an AEM5-30 that isn’t being used at the moment and was thinking of doing as short of a .300 BLK SBR as possible to take it. Would be a great hunting rig with supers and also have the ability to run subs for the stupid fun. I’ll have to look into all the chassis options and what minimal barrel length I could get away with. View Quote That woud make a cool set-up. Looking forward to seeing what you put together! I just found this last night while perusing Youtube. I didnt realize B&T made a shorty Bolt Action in 300 BLK. It is the B&T 300 SPR. Has a 9.8" barrel with a over the barrel suppressor. Pretty rad. From what I can tell it was discontinued. Likely the price and it was a factory 2 stamp set-up. Would probably sell better now that there is efile form 4's. World’s quietest Sniper rifle. B&T 300 SPR |
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Originally Posted By Jlgil73: That woud make a cool set-up. Looking forward to seeing what you put together! I just found this last night while perusing Youtube. I didnt realize B&T made a shorty Bolt Action in 300 BLK. It is the B&T 300 SPR. Has a 9.8" barrel with a over the barrel suppressor. Pretty rad. From what I can tell it was discontinued. Likely the price and it was a factory 2 stamp set-up. Would probably sell better now that there is efile form 4's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRl2jB6QVVs View Quote I don't know if it ever got imported but I think it was super expensive. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I don't know if it ever got imported but I think it was super expensive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Jlgil73: That woud make a cool set-up. Looking forward to seeing what you put together! I just found this last night while perusing Youtube. I didnt realize B&T made a shorty Bolt Action in 300 BLK. It is the B&T 300 SPR. Has a 9.8" barrel with a over the barrel suppressor. Pretty rad. From what I can tell it was discontinued. Likely the price and it was a factory 2 stamp set-up. Would probably sell better now that there is efile form 4's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRl2jB6QVVs I don't know if it ever got imported but I think it was super expensive. $5k +/- before stamps, and mags were over $100 a piece. Lot to drop on a super niche rifle |
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: $5k +/- before stamps, and mags were over $100 a piece. Lot to drop on a super niche rifle View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Jlgil73: That woud make a cool set-up. Looking forward to seeing what you put together! I just found this last night while perusing Youtube. I didnt realize B&T made a shorty Bolt Action in 300 BLK. It is the B&T 300 SPR. Has a 9.8" barrel with a over the barrel suppressor. Pretty rad. From what I can tell it was discontinued. Likely the price and it was a factory 2 stamp set-up. Would probably sell better now that there is efile form 4's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRl2jB6QVVs I don't know if it ever got imported but I think it was super expensive. $5k +/- before stamps, and mags were over $100 a piece. Lot to drop on a super niche rifle Yeah that's more than a tough sell. You could have a ground up custom rifle built with the best components for less than that. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Yeah that's more than a tough sell. You could have a ground up custom rifle built with the best components for less than that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Jlgil73: That woud make a cool set-up. Looking forward to seeing what you put together! I just found this last night while perusing Youtube. I didnt realize B&T made a shorty Bolt Action in 300 BLK. It is the B&T 300 SPR. Has a 9.8" barrel with a over the barrel suppressor. Pretty rad. From what I can tell it was discontinued. Likely the price and it was a factory 2 stamp set-up. Would probably sell better now that there is efile form 4's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRl2jB6QVVs I don't know if it ever got imported but I think it was super expensive. $5k +/- before stamps, and mags were over $100 a piece. Lot to drop on a super niche rifle Yeah that's more than a tough sell. You could have a ground up custom rifle built with the best components for less than that. .gov doesn’t care it’s not their money being spent. |
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My Q Mini Fix, with Steiner P4Xi lpvo and Warne QD XSKEL cantilever mount, Dead Air Nomad Ti still in jail
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16: yeah, a bolt action 9mm (or 45) that took glock mags? That I would buy. Doesn't make sense to me to get into rifle length rounds just to make them subsonic for quiet plinking. But a 147gn 9mm that sounds like a 22? That would be fun View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I wish a shop would do them. SIA did a few Novem carbines but the others I’ve seen were one offs. Still not ideal as the work and barrel could cost the same as the gun if not more. Give me a Ruger American with the same magwell as their PCC. yeah, a bolt action 9mm (or 45) that took glock mags? That I would buy. Doesn't make sense to me to get into rifle length rounds just to make them subsonic for quiet plinking. But a 147gn 9mm that sounds like a 22? That would be fun It aint cheap, but this is always an option. They do great work and there is a thread over on Snipers Hide. https://curtistacticalsuppressorsandrifles.com/curtis-tactical-brand-rifles/CTSR-CT700P%20-on-remington-700-sa Here is the thread: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/9mm-bolt-action-rifle-looking-for-people-with-experience-with-the-manufacturer-curtis-tactical.7018409/ Edit: see that i should have kept reading. But at least i provided links to the actual rifle |
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Just found this thread. How is your search for the SBR build? I picked mine up in 6.5 CM, which is 12.5" 1:8. Going with Leupold VX3 3-10. Plan to use as a pig/truck gun. If all goes well with it, I am strongly considering an SBR stamp. Have you found any good solutions for 1913 butt-stocks?
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Originally Posted By Jlgil73: Grip looks good. I was thinking the same thing. What 1913 folder is that and can you change buffer tubes? Looking for options when I SBR mine... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jlgil73: Originally Posted By Clint50: Just added the Fortis Torque PG, in carbon fiber. Stopped in at Capitol Armory today, to discuss mounting options for my Dead Air Nomad Ti. They suggested going with a direct mount so I may do that. Next addition will be a decent bipod. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52988/MPP-16_JPG-2372609.JPG Grip looks good. I was thinking the same thing. What 1913 folder is that and can you change buffer tubes? Looking for options when I SBR mine... I stumbled onto this folder/buffer tube adapter and think it may be the same one on my MPP. https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Midwest-Industries-STAP-SF-BT-Side-Folding-1913-Bu-p/mi-stap-sf-bt.htm |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: .300 BLK Ruger American SBR project is wrapped up https://i.imgur.com/VJcoxGN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5RjiRL1.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: .300 BLK Ruger American SBR project is wrapped up https://i.imgur.com/VJcoxGN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5RjiRL1.jpg View Quote That's awesome. What are the details? Pic thread! |
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Originally Posted By Aimless: You're calling each other names at 8 on a sunday in a thread about ancient rome. smiley_freak.gif
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They want to make everything a right vs left issue. The more we fight each other, the less likely we'll fight collectively against the source.
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Originally Posted By Nyktos: Had this for awhile now. Elf owl 9" barrel. Currently set up a bit different now. It has a 2.5-10 GLX with a NVD shroud for a clip on thermal now days. Have taken it out to 500yds with 220gr subs. The goal is 700 yds with subs (for fun obviously). Also has taken a lot of hogs with the furthest being a out 450yds with 110 gr barnes. No coyotes yet unfortunately. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185314/IMG_20221115_105025_jpg-2600866.JPG Current set up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/185314/signal-2022-10-25-17-53-01-466_jpg-2600871.JPG View Quote |
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ARC just announced a Black Friday sale starting on the 25th; Nukes going for $799. Going to be really hard to pass that up and build my own SBR bolt out of it
If only their Xylo chassis was folding...it'd fit what I want so much better |
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My Dead Air Nomad Ti was approved, Tuesday, and I picked it up at Capitol Armory, today. Now, I just need to put some subs downrange.
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Originally Posted By PA452: Just picked up a Uintah bolt action upper in .300Blk for my SBR. Doesn't look very short set up like this, but it's a 10.5" barrel. https://i.imgur.com/B6U2KyD.jpg View Quote That's a PA hunting rig if I've ever seen one... |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: .300 BLK Ruger American SBR project is wrapped up https://i.imgur.com/VJcoxGN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5RjiRL1.jpg View Quote @Outrider what buffer tube, hinge and stock is that? Everything is looking great! |
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Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF1, would have immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
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Originally Posted By ZF-1: @Outrider what buffer tube, hinge and stock is that? Everything is looking great! View Quote Chassis and hinge is from Indian Creek Design. You can run a standard buffer tube with it. Stock is LWRC compact. I may end up down the road going for an even shorter, fast twist barrel and a lighter can. The AEM5-30 is an absolute pig and this is a hunting oriented rig. |
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Bumping a neat thread.
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Originally Posted By nj0ywatch1np0rn: Rem700 w/ 9" KAK 300BO barrel on a Manners CS Stock https://i.imgur.com/XjFbMCil.jpg View Quote That is awesome! Working on a Ruger American ranch 7” 300 BO project. Update |
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That’s pretty cool. I’m considering a 300blk ruger ranch at 10.5ish with a pin and welded YHM R9 project for a 1 stamp build
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Originally Posted By Evil_Ed: Phase one of project "this is a dumb idea" is complete! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22779/IMG_1741-cropped-2627031.jpg Now on to phase two - figuring out the barrel...probably going to need to wait until next year though View Quote Phase two complete....barrel ordered: Now to order another Xeno brake for it, and figure out what pistol/SBR chassis to buy for it...so far choices are either a Black Collar Pork Sword, or a JTac Screech Owl...I'm not particularly sold on either. Most of the other chassis I looked at used AR buffer tube-style stocks which I don't want; they're too fat/thick...I'm looking for something thinner than that. Best option would be something like a Sig Cross stock on a pic adapter...I don't know if anyone makes a stock like that. Assuming I decide I like this thing enough to SBR it that is... |
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Originally Posted By Evil_Ed: Phase two complete....barrel ordered: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22779/barrel-300blk-2765329.jpg Now to order another Xeno brake for it, and figure out what pistol/SBR chassis to buy for it...so far choices are either a Black Collar Pork Sword, or a JTac Screech Owl...I'm not particularly sold on either. Most of the other chassis I looked at used AR buffer tube-style stocks which I don't want; they're too fat/thick...I'm looking for something thinner than that. Best option would be something like a Sig Cross stock on a pic adapter...I don't know if anyone makes a stock like that. Assuming I decide I like this thing enough to SBR it that is... View Quote Sig has sold the cross stock by itself in the past to people that have called customer service, and I believe it's the same interface as their picatinny folding knuckle for their MPX/MCX stocks |
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Originally Posted By WhiteDingo: Sig has sold the cross stock by itself in the past to people that have called customer service, and I believe it's the same interface as their picatinny folding knuckle for their MPX/MCX stocks View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WhiteDingo: Originally Posted By Evil_Ed: Phase two complete....barrel ordered: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22779/barrel-300blk-2765329.jpg Now to order another Xeno brake for it, and figure out what pistol/SBR chassis to buy for it...so far choices are either a Black Collar Pork Sword, or a JTac Screech Owl...I'm not particularly sold on either. Most of the other chassis I looked at used AR buffer tube-style stocks which I don't want; they're too fat/thick...I'm looking for something thinner than that. Best option would be something like a Sig Cross stock on a pic adapter...I don't know if anyone makes a stock like that. Assuming I decide I like this thing enough to SBR it that is... Sig has sold the cross stock by itself in the past to people that have called customer service, and I believe it's the same interface as their picatinny folding knuckle for their MPX/MCX stocks Yup - there's a few places that sell it...it's finding the folding knuckle that interfaces with M1913/pic rails that's the issue. I think I found a source for that too...but I wound up ordering a "Kate Moss" - type stock, and I'll see how that works out first. And filed the paperwork to SBR it...figured why the hell not, what's $200 and a year of waiting |
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Originally Posted By Evil_Ed: Phase ...uh, 3, 4, 5 complete, 6 in progress? Chassis and trigger came in, followed by a potential stock (which, if I decide to not use it here, I can use it elsewhere): https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22779/IMG_1937-cropped-2781239.jpg What it would look like, roughly, if the stock were attached: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/22779/IMG_1938-cropped-2781240.jpg Barrel should only extend another inch or inch and a half past the end of the handguard, so...should be nice And, I filed for a stamp from the ATF, so...maybe in a couple months, it'll be complete-complete? Until then I can use it as the pistol I originally envisioned and see how it does. Sadly, mocking up the stock, it does not sit on the right side cleanly...it interferes with the bolt handle I was hoping the stock would fold to the right cleanly, like a Sig Cross. I mocked up with the stock from my Cross incidentally, and that interferes too...the stock would need to be mounted up super high on a knuckle of some kind, and even then - the rear of the bolt actually extends further than the rear pic rail a little...so any knuckle would need to be flush with the rear of the pic rail at best. But, given that the bolt handle is what it is...a left-side folding stock is about the best I could expect. View Quote Love it. |
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Aside from 300bo, what are some other calibers that tolerate short barrels better?
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