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Posted: 9/20/2017 10:59:24 AM EDT
I'm looking at the CZ455 Tacticool, but then found that Ruger made a Target Rifle in the American Rifle series.
Has an extended Bolt handle, great trigger, Heavy 18" barrel threaded for a suppressor and a Picatinney rail already installed. And the best part... uses Ruger Rotary magazines.... Ruger Target Is the CZ the better choice? I know the CZ is well established and the Ruger is newer.. But I really like the Ruger magazine design, reliability, cost, availability... I already have them, vs. the CZ mag set up and the smaller bolt handle, Which I know I will replace... and down the road, I can get a Tacticool stock for the Ruger and have pretty much exactly what I want. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:06:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fivealyv]
[#1]
When it came time to choose a new 22lr bolt rifle, I picked the CZ455 (though Varmint not Tacticool).
A little work you can replace the trigger spring or get a yodave (sp?) kit. I did the spring and it is great. I also got a DIP rail adapter so I don't have to deal with that dovetail rail thing. It just feels like a "real rifle". Everyone who has shot it with me has had nothing but nice stuff to say about it, some have gone out and bought their own. While I'm sure either will serve you fine, I have never regretted my purchase. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 11:54:07 AM EDT
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I'm a big fan of CZs, but it sounds like you like the Ruger better OP. I doubt one will shoot that much better than the other. The CZ might have a better barrel out of the box, but it's easy to change the barrel on most Ruger .22s.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 3:46:03 PM EDT
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I know the CZ452 Varmint with a Timney trigger is a better choice. It was also available before Ruger got into the game. Now the CZ comes with a better trigger and the better barrel profiles are easier to obtain. I have handled the Ruger. The action was not as smooth as the CZ.
I wouldn't pass up a walnut/blued 77/22 if I could find one.  
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Posted: 9/20/2017 4:22:16 PM EDT
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I chose the CZ, it is a great rifle and you will not be disappointed.
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Posted: 9/21/2017 12:37:58 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Essayons:
I'm a big fan of CZs, but it sounds like you like the Ruger better OP. I doubt one will shoot that much better than the other. The CZ might have a better barrel out of the box, but it's easy to change the barrel on most Ruger .22s. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2017 11:17:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hellbent_4]
[#6]
I hear the CZ are great.
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Posted: 9/23/2017 11:28:01 PM EDT
[#7]
This thread is relevant to my interests.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2017 2:30:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VIP3R:
This thread is relevant to my interests. |
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Posted: 9/27/2017 10:00:41 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm starting to lean back towards the CZ.. Spent some time over at the Rimfire Central Forums and I'm not seeing anything stellar written about the accuracy.. I'm making too big a deal out of the Ruger 10 rd magazine me thinks...
And We have CZ452 trainers that we use in the 4H shooting program I instruct and I have shot them quite a bit and they are extremely accurate... There is a Tacticool at my local Scheels right now, I think I may make a trip over there and take another look.... |
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Posted: 12/29/2017 6:24:40 PM EDT
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I just picked up a new Ruger American standard. Stainless/synthetic, 10/22 mag, and 18" threaded heavier barrel sold me.
Fit and finish not as good as CZ, definitely not like the old 77/22s. As long as it doesn't have the QC problems of the Salvages, and if I can get standard velocity ammo to shoot decently, I'll be happy. A nicer bolt like a CZ or Browning T might be in my future for 22 precision, I'm not going to tear up my Mossberg M44. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 12/30/2017 6:45:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gabriel]
[#11]
I just went through this and ended up with the CZ 455 Tacticool. I did sand out the barrel channel a little as it was really close and running a business card between the barrel and stock wasn't doable. I have to pretty much set up how I want it (need a cheek riser and front rail for one of my bipods). Now I need to gather some different rounds and see what it likes... a day above 10 degrees to shoot it wouldn't hurt either.
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Posted: 12/30/2017 7:06:01 PM EDT
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Nice
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NE, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2018 11:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gabriel:
I just went through this and ended up with the CZ 455 Tacticool. I did sand out the barrel channel a little as it was really close and running a business card between the barrel and stock wasn't doable. I have to pretty much set up how I want it (need a cheek riser and front rail for one of my bipods). Now I need to gather some different rounds and see what it likes... a day above 10 degrees to shoot it wouldn't hurt either. https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Knives-and-Guns/i-cPSLkwb/0/ee905f53/XL/IMG_3368-XL.jpg Thanks! |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2018 11:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airking: Nice setup. I have the same rifle sitting in the safe. What scope and rings did you go with? Thanks! I went with the Vortex PST Gen II 5-25 and the rings are Seekins low rings (and Area 419 base). I couldn't decide between the Vortex and the Sightron SIII, so I went with the one I found on sale first. I know the rings are overkill, but I wasn't sure which height to get. My 308 has the Seekins medium height rings and could go lower. I figured if these didn't work on the CZ, I could swap them for the ones on my 308. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 2:52:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gabriel:
I just went through this and ended up with the CZ 455 Tacticool. I did sand out the barrel channel a little as it was really close and running a business card between the barrel and stock wasn't doable. I have to pretty much set up how I want it (need a cheek riser and front rail for one of my bipods). Now I need to gather some different rounds and see what it likes... a day above 10 degrees to shoot it wouldn't hurt either. https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Knives-and-Guns/i-cPSLkwb/0/ee905f53/XL/IMG_3368-XL.jpg |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 3:29:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gabriel: Thanks. I went with the Vortex PST Gen II 5-25 and the rings are Seekins low rings (and Area 419 base). I couldn't decide between the Vortex and the Sightron SIII, so I went with the one I found on sale first. I know the rings are overkill, but I wasn't sure which height to get. My 308 has the Seekins medium height rings and could go lower. I figured if these didn't work on the CZ, I could swap them for the ones on my 308. How much did you sand? My gap between the barrel and stock is pretty close/tight. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 12:46:12 PM EDT
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I sanded enough to get a business card through the gap. I used a cut off broom handle and wrapped sandpaper around it. It works perfectly for that.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 4:56:07 PM EDT
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Question for you OP, Now that you have had the rifle for a while do you have any regrets about any part of it vs going with a different rifle?
Reason I am asking is im RIGHT on the ledge of buying a RART but, imo, the CZ seems to be a hair "better" of an rifle. That being said, the reason im still leaning to the RART is the fact that CZ (and savage) magazines are garbage and the CZ mags are crazy $$ for what they are, vs the Ruger mags are amazing (and cheaper). |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 7:48:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Are-O-Be]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azmp5:
Question for you OP, Now that you have had the rifle for a while do you have any regrets about any part of it vs going with a different rifle? Reason I am asking is im RIGHT on the ledge of buying a RART but, imo, the CZ seems to be a hair "better" of an rifle. That being said, the reason im still leaning to the RART is the fact that CZ (and savage) magazines are garbage and the CZ mags are crazy $$ for what they are, vs the Ruger mags are amazing (and cheaper). |
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Posted: 1/4/2018 9:25:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Harv24]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azmp5:
Question for you OP, Now that you have had the rifle for a while do you have any regrets about any part of it vs going with a different rifle? Reason I am asking is im RIGHT on the ledge of buying a RART but, imo, the CZ seems to be a hair "better" of an rifle. That being said, the reason im still leaning to the RART is the fact that CZ (and savage) magazines are garbage and the CZ mags are crazy $$ for what they are, vs the Ruger mags are amazing (and cheaper). once it came, I looked it over and thought it was pretty well built. The trigger straight out of the box was pretty decent, and the videos on how to make it better were easy and cost nothing to do... I prepared myself in advance by getting a variety of ammo as I knew that was key to being happy with it's accuracy... Once I got out to the range and started to zero the scope and shoot for groups, I was amazed at how well the barrel was grouping after only 30-40rds... using the BX-1 mags is awesome, the 10 rds fit flush (vs. CZ 5rd'ers that stick out just a hair) I can use the BX-15 rd'ers as well, and they are smooth and make the gun very enjoyable. I'm very happy with my choice and would recommend the RART to anyone who wants to chase after the Precision .22 game without having to drop a ton of money. If a CZ is better then what I have now, I would be hard pressed to see it, based on how well the barrel on the Ruger is shooting with only 100 rds or so thru it. And that little bolt handle on the CZ was also a concern and I knew I would want a larger extended one, but the Glades aftermarket handle gets mixed reviews and adds another $75. and the 11mm to Weaver rail adapter I knew I was going to want on the CZ adds another $40. And I know I would want another mag or two... so there is another $70 bucks... and Yo Dave trigger kit... there's another $25. Theirs $200 additional dollars more for the CZ plus the gun is $100 dollars more then the Ruger. Now I'm into $300 additional dollars spent to get want I want. That buys a lot of premium match .22 that I can shoot this summer and really wring out the accuracy... I say go for it... you will not be disappointed. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2018 9:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24: I'll tell ya, I was sweating it, as I was waiting for the Ruger to transfer, I was thinking, "Boy, did I make a big mistake not getting the CZ???" over and over again... once it came, I looked it over and thought it was pretty well built. The trigger straight out of the box was pretty decent, and the videos on how to make it better were easy and cost nothing to do... I prepared myself in advance by getting a variety of ammo as I knew that was key to being happy with it's accuracy... Once I got out to the range and started to zero the scope and shoot for groups, I was amazed at how well the barrel was grouping after only 30-40rds... using the BX-1 mags is awesome, the 10 rds fit flush (vs. CZ 5rd'ers that stick out just a hair) I can use the BX-15 rd'ers as well, and they are smooth and make the gun very enjoyable. I'm very happy with my choice and would recommend the RART to anyone who wants to chase after the Precision .22 game without having to drop a ton of money. If a CZ is better then what I have now, I would be hard pressed to see it, based on how well the barrel on the Ruger is shooting with only 100 rds or so thru it. And that little bolt handle on the CZ was also a concern and I knew I would want a larger extended one, but the Glades aftermarket handle gets mixed reviews and adds another $75. and the 11mm to Weaver rail adapter I knew I was going to want on the CZ adds another $40. And I know I would want another mag or two... so there is another $70 bucks... and Yo Dave trigger kit... there's another $25. Theirs $200 additional dollars more for the CZ plus the gun is $100 dollars more then the Ruger. Now I'm into $300 additional dollars spent to get want I want. That buys a lot of premium match .22 that I can shoot this summer and really wring out the accuracy... I say go for it... you will not be disappointed. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2018 12:45:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gsd2053]
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I guess Ruger will come out with the take down model when sales slow.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:39:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azmp5:
Question for you OP, Now that you have had the rifle for a while do you have any regrets about any part of it vs going with a different rifle? Reason I am asking is im RIGHT on the ledge of buying a RART but, imo, the CZ seems to be a hair "better" of an rifle. That being said, the reason im still leaning to the RART is the fact that CZ (and savage) magazines are garbage and the CZ mags are crazy $$ for what they are, vs the Ruger mags are amazing (and cheaper). And I'm also an owner of two CZ455s. |
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Posted: 1/5/2018 2:47:58 AM EDT
[#24]
I am all for variety, but I cant see a Ruger anything shoot like a CZ.
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Posted: 1/5/2018 8:42:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunut:
I am all for variety, but I cant see a Ruger anything shoot like a CZ. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/3-411385.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/20171213_163148-411386.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/20171116_144852-411388.JPG |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2018 1:31:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TactEng]
[#26]
I got my Ruger American Target rifle about a Month ago and will use it in a 22PRL event in the spring.
It is more accurate then my friends CZ452 out of the box. It prefers Aguila Standard velocity ammo as well as Norma Match -22 |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2018 5:51:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Talyn]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunut:
I am all for variety, but I cant see a Ruger anything shoot like a CZ. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/3-411385.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/20171213_163148-411386.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/20171116_144852-411388.JPG That scope mount is too crazy high, unless it has to be that way for a reason. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/6/2018 8:41:09 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gabriel:
I just went through this and ended up with the CZ 455 Tacticool. I did sand out the barrel channel a little as it was really close and running a business card between the barrel and stock wasn't doable. I have to pretty much set up how I want it (need a cheek riser and front rail for one of my bipods). Now I need to gather some different rounds and see what it likes... a day above 10 degrees to shoot it wouldn't hurt either. https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Knives-and-Guns/i-cPSLkwb/0/ee905f53/XL/IMG_3368-XL.jpg |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 1:17:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24: Are those 5 rd groups at 25yds? What ammo? |
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Posted: 1/8/2018 2:18:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunut:[/]
Those are 5 Rd groups at 50 using sk standard plus. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunut:[/]
[b]Originally Posted By Harv24: Are those 5 rd groups at 25yds? What ammo? 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2018 3:35:43 AM EDT
[#31]
11 days and Tikka has a new 22 coming out at Shot Show.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2018 10:49:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BAYOU1535:
11 days and Tikka has a new 22 coming out at Shot Show. 
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Posted: 1/21/2018 5:51:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Got out today to run some more Eley Target vs. SK standard Plus..
About 35 degree's F The gun is now leaning toward SK standard plus... which I'm happy about for the price. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2018 1:05:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Talyn:
My RART has shot better than that at 25 and as well at 50 with CCI mini mags and before the DIY trigger job. That scope mount is too crazy high, unless it has to be that way for a reason. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Talyn:
Originally Posted By gunut:
I am all for variety, but I cant see a Ruger anything shoot like a CZ. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/3-411385.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/20171213_163148-411386.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24194/20171116_144852-411388.JPG That scope mount is too crazy high, unless it has to be that way for a reason. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24:
Got out today to run some more Eley Target vs. SK standard Plus.. https://i.imgur.com/M055TA0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/luaptVL.jpg About 35 degree's F The gun is now leaning toward SK standard plus... which I'm happy about for the price. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2018 2:33:49 AM EDT
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Take a look at PRIME ammo as well. Decent accuracy!!
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2018 5:57:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24:
Got out today to run some more Eley Target vs. SK standard Plus.. https://i.imgur.com/M055TA0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/luaptVL.jpg About 35 degree's F The gun is now leaning toward SK standard plus... which I'm happy about for the price. |
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Posted: 1/24/2018 8:35:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Harv24]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunut:
I dont think it is a good idea to base your ammo selection using 25 yard data unless thats the range you intend to use the most. If that is the range you use most, I would look for cheaper alternatives like MiniMag or AR tactical, or some of the excellent Aguila SV Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunut:
Originally Posted By Harv24:
Got out today to run some more Eley Target vs. SK standard Plus.. https://i.imgur.com/M055TA0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/luaptVL.jpg About 35 degree's F The gun is now leaning toward SK standard plus... which I'm happy about for the price. Next trip I will be back to 50 yds... But the bottom line take away... Ruger with there hammer forged 18" target barrel (with standard cut chamber) is not the POS that lot of folks make it out to be... and for the money, I think it is a great value... I'm pragmatic when it comes to most things shooting... while I would love it if someone gave me a $2k Match Rimfire rifle and a lifetime supply of Match ammo to shoot thru it... I can be quite happy wit this rifle and a $5 box of SK plus... and I can go have fun and compete at a local rimfire match and be OK when I shoot next to a guy with a $2k rifle and a $2K scope.....shooting $22 a box ammo and our groups look pretty much the same...
Oh and my scope.. a Mueller 8-32x that I paid $250 for, that everyone told me was junk.... and so far, it's been a great optic that tracks very well. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:27:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2018 5:53:03 PM EDT
[#40]
My Target rifle in it's new Pillar bedded Boyds Pro Varmint/Tacticool stock....
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2018 6:09:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24:
My Target rifle in it's new Pillar bedded Boyds Pro Varmint/Tacticool stock.... https://i.imgur.com/rInVuGO.jpg |
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Posted: 2/25/2018 6:22:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 95Bravo72:
Looking to create an almost identical build. The $$$ factor is the whole reason I want to go 22lr vs .308 for now. So all the points about keeping cost down just make a lot of sense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 95Bravo72:
Originally Posted By Harv24:
My Target rifle in it's new Pillar bedded Boyds Pro Varmint/Tacticool stock.... https://i.imgur.com/rInVuGO.jpg Ruger American Rimfire Target (the run $400/ I got a deal at $300) Boyd Pro Varmint stock with customer Pillars bedded into it.($150) Modded Trigger (OEM)($0) DIP 20MOA scope rail($30) DIP trigger guard($30) DIP Muzzle comp($35) Mueller 8x32 target scope(($250) Medium weaver rings ($20) Stock pouch ($25) $840 give or take....And I would go toe to toe with anyone else s rig and not feel under gunned.... |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2018 6:31:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harv24: my rifle specs Ruger American Rimfire Target (the run $400/ I got a deal at $300) Boyd Pro Varmint stock with customer Pillars bedded into it.($150) Modded Trigger (OEM)($0) DIP 20MOA scope rail($30) DIP trigger guard($30) DIP Muzzle comp($35) Mueller 8x32 target scope(($250) Medium weaver rings ($20) Stock pouch ($25) $840 give or take....And I would go toe to toe with anyone else s rig and not feel under gunned.... Nice final price ! |
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Posted: 2/25/2018 7:16:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 95Bravo72:
From the green color that looks like the Model 8334 available through Talo distributors ? When I look up the American Target it is the one with laminate stock Nice final price ! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 95Bravo72:
Originally Posted By Harv24: my rifle specs Ruger American Rimfire Target (the run $400/ I got a deal at $300) Boyd Pro Varmint stock with customer Pillars bedded into it.($150) Modded Trigger (OEM)($0) DIP 20MOA scope rail($30) DIP trigger guard($30) DIP Muzzle comp($35) Mueller 8x32 target scope(($250) Medium weaver rings ($20) Stock pouch ($25) $840 give or take....And I would go toe to toe with anyone else s rig and not feel under gunned.... Nice final price ! 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/28/2018 10:13:28 PM EDT
[#45]
Where did you get the Boyds stock from?
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Posted: 2/28/2018 11:56:22 PM EDT
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Bought it direct from Boyds... I was going to buy it from DIP industries... but they were on back order...
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