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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:21:25 PM EDT
I got bit by the FOB bug. These things are great in a cross wind, and they stabilize the arrow very quickly. They pop off when you hit a deer, marking the spot to start your search for a blood trail, plus since it pops off, it makes it easier for the arrow to pass through (no friction from the vanes).
Shamelessly stolen from their web site (I don't think they'll mind me promoting them this way):  The results of this technology looks like this at 30yds: (keep in mind I just started shooting in late June and this group was in August with not much practice during the 51 days of 110+ degree weather in between):  |
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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:29:39 PM EDT
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pics of arrow rest?
i cant even fathom how that would work? |
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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:33:50 PM EDT
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That is a nice group...and I do see you achieved that in relatively short order, but I have to say I have seen many a newbie bow shooter achieve similar results with modern bow equipment. Unless these results are with a recurve really nothing to ground breaking. Again nice group.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 2:13:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LukeDuke: pics of arrow rest? i cant even fathom how that would work? A drop away rest is required. No Whisker Bisket for these things. |
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Posted: 11/23/2011 2:21:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sakotrg24: That is a nice group...and I do see you achieved that in relatively short order, but I have to say I have seen many a newbie bow shooter achieve similar results with modern bow equipment. Unless these results are with a recurve really nothing to ground breaking. Again nice group. I guess I forgot to mention that this group was shot in a stiff cross wind. I'm in KS where the wind never stops blowing. I'm not good enough to do this with regular fletching after having only shot the bow 5 or 6 times (and having not shot for over 20 years). My friend who shoots more than I do wasn't able to group them like this. The wind was visibly affecting his arrows in a way it wasn't affecting mine. |
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Posted: 11/23/2011 3:01:34 PM EDT
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I've been meaning to give these a try, so my order has been placed.
Once they come in, I can compare them and it gives me a chance to also play with some trimming options. Looking forward to seeing the results. |
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Posted: 11/23/2011 8:08:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EdwardAvila: I've been meaning to give these a try, so my order has been placed. Once they come in, I can compare them and it gives me a chance to also play with some trimming options. Looking forward to seeing the results. With these FOBs, I can get my SilverFlame 125XL brodheads with a 1.5" dia. to hit 1.5" high at 30yds ... without broadhead tuning. I ran out of time before season opener to broadhead tune, but I figured that was close enough since I'm limiting myself to 30yds max this first year. They do a good job of stabilizing the arrow quickly since they don't flex & flap like vanes. I busted 3 FOBs checking for groups with my broadheads before I figured out that I need to shoot spots.  I have a fairly high F.O.C. of 16% with my Harvest Time Archery HT-2 arrows cut to 28" carbon-to-carbon, the FOBs, arrow wraps, 125gr broadhead, and 50gr of screw-in weight behind the insert: total arrow weight of 470gr. |
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Posted: 11/23/2011 8:17:14 PM EDT
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I LOVE FOBS.
Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters. 
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Posted: 11/23/2011 10:07:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IIRC: I LOVE FOBS. Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters. Official IBO or ATA or NFAA tournaments don't allow FOBs, so unless local shoots allow it, it will have to be vanes. I am actually planning on getting some Harvest Time Archery HT-3 Virtue or HT-4 Redemption arrows for 3D next spring. My HT-2 Harvester arrows for bowhunting have 0.6gr variation among the dozen –– and that's with nocks and inserts, and screw-in-weights installed! I was impressed enough with their Harvester arrows that I joined their advisory shooting staff. |
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Posted: 11/24/2011 7:08:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By loonybin:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS. Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters. Official IBO or ATA or NFAA tournaments don't allow FOBs, so unless local shoots allow it, it will have to be vanes. I am actually planning on getting some Harvest Time Archery HT-3 Virtue or HT-4 Redemption arrows for 3D next spring. My HT-2 Harvester arrows for bowhunting have 0.6gr variation among the dozen –– and that's with nocks and inserts, and screw-in-weights installed! I was impressed enough with their Harvester arrows that I joined their advisory shooting staff. Some of our local shoots allow them in the open class. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:24:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS. Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters. I just found the new forum. Do you use FOBs for hunting? I have been thinking of switching to FOBs. Do I just cut off the vanes with a blade? |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 4:24:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS. Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters. I just found the new forum. Do you use FOBs for hunting? I have been thinking of switching to FOBs. Do I just cut off the vanes with a blade? I only hunt with FOBs now, actually. I like how they handle in windy conditions over vanes in both of my hunting bows. You can just remove the vanes from an old arrow and scrape the remaining glue off. One thing I will say is try to use a couple before you set your heart in them. For some reason, my buddy and I can't get them to shoot desirably out of his hunting rig compared to vanes. |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:38:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
I LOVE FOBS. Been using them for years. For 3D, I suggest either black fobs, switching to vanes, or shooting last. They make great targets for other shooters. I just found the new forum. Do you use FOBs for hunting? I have been thinking of switching to FOBs. Do I just cut off the vanes with a blade? I only hunt with FOBs now, actually. I like how they handle in windy conditions over vanes in both of my hunting bows. You can just remove the vanes from an old arrow and scrape the remaining glue off. One thing I will say is try to use a couple before you set your heart in them. For some reason, my buddy and I can't get them to shoot desirably out of his hunting rig compared to vanes. I will do that. Thanks for the warning. |
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Posted: 9/19/2013 2:50:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mach]
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to revive an old thread.
I picked up some FOBs and like them a lot. they make a bit of a wind noise when they fly,hope that will not be a problem eta. the only thing I do not like about them is not being able to shoot groups without spending time looking for nocks and FOBs |
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Posted: 9/19/2013 5:16:36 PM EDT
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They sound louder when you are behind them. At the target, they don't sound any louder than Blazer vanes (folks have put videos on youtube demonstrating this).
The other downside to these I have discovered (other than requiring a drop-away): If hunting from a blind, you can't leave the shoot-through mesh in place. The FOB passing through the mesh really sends the arrow off course. I now have a couple blinds and no treestand, so I'll be using vanes this year. I am saving for a treestand or two, and I plan on switching back to FOBs once I get one. If I have enough time, I'm going to test POI between FOBs and vanes out of my rig to see if there is any difference. If there isn't much, I may carry both: vanes for the blind, FOBs for stalking/natural blind. |
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Posted: 9/29/2013 9:38:36 PM EDT
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for some reason, I seem to be more consistant with vanes.
the vanesa nd FOB arrows hit in the same spot except for the FOB fliers. do not know why that is happening. bow is paper tuned, ( with vanes ) and bare shaft tuned. I can not shoot the FOBs in groups because I keep popping the FOBs off of the previous arrow and the knock breaks in half 
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Posted: 9/29/2013 11:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: for some reason, I seem to be more consistant with vanes. the vanesa nd FOB arrows hit in the same spot except for the FOB fliers. do not know why that is happening. bow is paper tuned, ( with vanes ) and bare shaft tuned. I can not shoot the FOBs in groups because I keep popping the FOBs off of the previous arrow and the knock breaks in half As for shooting groups... you don't need to. Shoot spots. If you can hit the center of each individual spot (or in the same area of each spot ... e.g. low left on each spot), then you know you're consistent. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:24:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loonybin:
If you have a flier, it is usually the archer. Just a small bit of torque (holding the bow differently, etc.) can cause a flier. I get them, too. As for shooting groups... you don't need to. Shoot spots. If you can hit the center of each individual spot (or in the same area of each spot ... e.g. low left on each spot), then you know you're consistent. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loonybin:
Originally Posted By Mach:
for some reason, I seem to be more consistant with vanes. the vanesa nd FOB arrows hit in the same spot except for the FOB fliers. do not know why that is happening. bow is paper tuned, ( with vanes ) and bare shaft tuned. I can not shoot the FOBs in groups because I keep popping the FOBs off of the previous arrow and the knock breaks in half As for shooting groups... you don't need to. Shoot spots. If you can hit the center of each individual spot (or in the same area of each spot ... e.g. low left on each spot), then you know you're consistent. it is probably me, but I seem to get better consistant results with the vanes than with FOBs. I thought the FOBs would be more forgiving, but maybe they are kess forgiving. maybe it is because I just piced up the bow after not using it since last season and I need to practice more. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:30:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loonybin:
They sound louder when you are behind them. At the target, they don't sound any louder than Blazer vanes (folks have put videos on youtube demonstrating this). The other downside to these I have discovered (other than requiring a drop-away): If hunting from a blind, you can't leave the shoot-through mesh in place. The FOB passing through the mesh really sends the arrow off course. I now have a couple blinds and no treestand, so I'll be using vanes this year. I am saving for a treestand or two, and I plan on switching back to FOBs once I get one. If I have enough time, I'm going to test POI between FOBs and vanes out of my rig to see if there is any difference. If there isn't much, I may carry both: vanes for the blind, FOBs for stalking/natural blind. if you are interested in getting a blind you don't have to shoot through, check out ghost blind. I have one and will never set up a popup or tree stand again. they are amazing. These are my pictures I took. No problem shooting an FOB with this.Don't want to hijack the thread, just want to point it out in case you have not seen these yet. 
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Posted: 11/5/2013 6:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: if you are interested in getting a blind you don't have to shoot through, check out ghost blind. I have one and will never set up a popup or tree stand again. they are amazing. These are my pictures I took. No problem shooting an FOB with this.Don't want to hijack the thread, just want to point it out in case you have not seen these yet. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/2f3f3281.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/8a5148d4.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: Originally Posted By loonybin: They sound louder when you are behind them. At the target, they don't sound any louder than Blazer vanes (folks have put videos on youtube demonstrating this). The other downside to these I have discovered (other than requiring a drop-away): If hunting from a blind, you can't leave the shoot-through mesh in place. The FOB passing through the mesh really sends the arrow off course. I now have a couple blinds and no treestand, so I'll be using vanes this year. I am saving for a treestand or two, and I plan on switching back to FOBs once I get one. If I have enough time, I'm going to test POI between FOBs and vanes out of my rig to see if there is any difference. If there isn't much, I may carry both: vanes for the blind, FOBs for stalking/natural blind. if you are interested in getting a blind you don't have to shoot through, check out ghost blind. I have one and will never set up a popup or tree stand again. they are amazing. These are my pictures I took. No problem shooting an FOB with this.Don't want to hijack the thread, just want to point it out in case you have not seen these yet. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/2f3f3281.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/8a5148d4.jpg |
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Posted: 11/5/2013 6:57:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loonybin:
You have to shoot over that, right? So almost half of you is exposed and visible when you shoot? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By loonybin:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By loonybin:
They sound louder when you are behind them. At the target, they don't sound any louder than Blazer vanes (folks have put videos on youtube demonstrating this). The other downside to these I have discovered (other than requiring a drop-away): If hunting from a blind, you can't leave the shoot-through mesh in place. The FOB passing through the mesh really sends the arrow off course. I now have a couple blinds and no treestand, so I'll be using vanes this year. I am saving for a treestand or two, and I plan on switching back to FOBs once I get one. If I have enough time, I'm going to test POI between FOBs and vanes out of my rig to see if there is any difference. If there isn't much, I may carry both: vanes for the blind, FOBs for stalking/natural blind. if you are interested in getting a blind you don't have to shoot through, check out ghost blind. I have one and will never set up a popup or tree stand again. they are amazing. These are my pictures I took. No problem shooting an FOB with this.Don't want to hijack the thread, just want to point it out in case you have not seen these yet. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/2f3f3281.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/8a5148d4.jpg That's right. And not only that, but in a wind . . . well, you can imagine what that looks like! Cool idea, but they need a little work yet. (Disclaimer: This is based upon what I've been told. I never actually used one myself - although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last year.)
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Posted: 11/5/2013 8:23:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mach]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO:
That's right. And not only that, but in a wind . . . well, you can imagine what that looks like! Cool idea, but they need a little work yet. (Disclaimer: This is based upon what I've been told. I never actually used one myself - although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last year.) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO:
Originally Posted By loonybin:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By loonybin:
They sound louder when you are behind them. At the target, they don't sound any louder than Blazer vanes (folks have put videos on youtube demonstrating this). The other downside to these I have discovered (other than requiring a drop-away): If hunting from a blind, you can't leave the shoot-through mesh in place. The FOB passing through the mesh really sends the arrow off course. I now have a couple blinds and no treestand, so I'll be using vanes this year. I am saving for a treestand or two, and I plan on switching back to FOBs once I get one. If I have enough time, I'm going to test POI between FOBs and vanes out of my rig to see if there is any difference. If there isn't much, I may carry both: vanes for the blind, FOBs for stalking/natural blind. if you are interested in getting a blind you don't have to shoot through, check out ghost blind. I have one and will never set up a popup or tree stand again. they are amazing. These are my pictures I took. No problem shooting an FOB with this.Don't want to hijack the thread, just want to point it out in case you have not seen these yet. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/2f3f3281.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/8a5148d4.jpg That's right. And not only that, but in a wind . . . well, you can imagine what that looks like! Cool idea, but they need a little work yet. (Disclaimer: This is based upon what I've been told. I never actually used one myself - although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last year.) I hunt in wind all the time. I live along the coast. It comes with tie downs and stakes. I replaced the metal stakes with plastic ones because they are quieter, but I shot a spike my first day using this in 25 knot winds at 9 yards. Wind is not a problem. Yes you shoot over it, or shoot below it through the U notches in it. I use a bow and it has not been a problem. They look right at it including my shoulders and head and don't see me. Of course I still only draw the bow when his head is down in grass or behind a tree. I should start a thread with my experience with it, for people that might be interested. The biggest con is it is set up directional to where you think they are going to come from. It excells if you like to hunt the way I do, places that don't have big trees and places I have never set foot in before. |
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Posted: 3/3/2017 8:06:44 PM EDT
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I used FOBs for a few years. I did like them, and they flew great, but I HATED always chasing around my fobs and nocks around the yard after every group shot on target. I know that can be solved by shooting at a different dot every shot, but groups are so much more fun
I switched over to blazers and have honestly not seen much difference. Even shooting in stiff crosswinds at 100 yards, I never really much wind drift left or right anyway. If you use the right fletching glue and quality targets, you won't have issues with vanes flying off or getting damaged from pass-thru's. |
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