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Posted: 5/15/2021 8:56:38 AM EDT
[#1]
I have a Remington 7600 in 30/06 as well as a pre Accutrigger Savage 110
You can still adjust the trigger on no accutrigger Savages. Both have Leupold 3-9 x 40's on top. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 11:02:52 AM EDT
[#2]
.303Brit has killed nearly everything on Earth.
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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:29:25 PM EDT
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30-06, 270 Win are both really solid choices. 260 Remington, and 6.5 Creedmoor are also good, but not quite as good for large game like Elk and Moose and large bears.
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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:49:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, initially, I have no plans on taking "sniper shots" on big game past 2-300 meters. Right now, my main goal is to be able to hunt white tail deer within 200 meters. Iive on the East coast, so alot more lush vegetation. Long range shots are not something I anticipate. Within those parameters, either the .277 WLV or 6.5Grendel would better serve you than getting beat to shit with a .30-06. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 11:25:53 AM EDT
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I tend to lean long action for hunting. Especially all-around hunting.
270 30-06 7mm Rem Mag 300 Win Mag All great hunting cartridges for all sorts of situations. I only own one of these, mostly because of the amount of overlap between them I only feel one is needed. Moving up or down on the power scale is a good exercise in specializing the tool for the job. A 1 size fits most approach will likely lead you to one of these. Maybe a 280AI that everyone is talking about if you want to be try out something trendy. I would pick short action cartridges for shorter ranges. But I bought a 6.5 JesusMoor for practice and a 7mm RM for killing. Just personal preference. I'll be taking a deer with the 6.5 at some point. But the 25-06 is tickling my fancy for a deer gun right now. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 12:04:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the 6.5 Creedmoor? Not the .308? My understanding is t hat the 30-06 is an outdated cartridge with newer and more modern options. I would get the 06 or bigger. Ammo is typically much easier to find. And you can get heavier bullets for bear and moose. You did say all around. |
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Posted: 6/5/2021 12:33:34 AM EDT
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I’ll go out on a limb and say the one you shoot the best. That means the one you will practice with and not develop bad habits with. I have killed med-big game with a lot of calibers From 223 to 45-70. The most animals I have killed with any given round was with my 7mm-08. Currently I am in the Creedmoor camp because it does well on game and on target. I can shoot all day and not get fatigued and it is reasonable on cost. I hand load so your mileage may vary on that last point. The guy you will shoot the most, accurately, is the gun you should hunt with given appropriate bullet weights and performance.
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Posted: 6/20/2021 10:41:35 AM EDT
[#8]
30.06 has more ammunition choices, which translates to being able to load up or down from a 120gr projectile to a 220 gr projectile.
.308 has slightly less recoil, and will still get the job done. Good luck. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 4:21:57 PM EDT
[#9]
The .30-06 is the undisputed king of the "all around" hunting calibers. With it's extremely wide bullet range it's a fantastic choice. Everything from small deer with 150 grain or lighter bullets up to big bears with 220 grain bullets. It's far, far, far, farrrr from being outdated or obsolete. There's good reason why it's still extremely popular in the US and easily the most popular in Africa among hunters.
My first bolt action hunting rifle was a Savage 110 Weather Warrior .30-06 and I loved it. Eventually I replaced with a newer version of the exact same gun only with the Accu-trigger this go around. There are calibers better for long range or better for big critters or whatever but in my opinion, nothing beats the .30-06 for an overall all around caliber. Google it and you'll find a whole lot of well known hunters that agree. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 2:00:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The .30-06 is the undisputed king of the "all around" hunting calibers. With it's extremely wide bullet range it's a fantastic choice. Everything from small deer with 150 grain or lighter bullets up to big bears with 220 grain bullets. It's far, far, far, farrrr from being outdated or obsolete. There's good reason why it's still extremely popular in the US and easily the most popular in Africa among hunters. My first bolt action hunting rifle was a Savage 110 Weather Warrior .30-06 and I loved it. Eventually I replaced with a newer version of the exact same gun only with the Accu-trigger this go around. There are calibers better for long range or better for big critters or whatever but in my opinion, nothing beats the .30-06 for an overall all around caliber. Google it and you'll find a whole lot of well known hunters that agree. Who was it that said: "Ain't much a man can't fix with 500 dollars and a 30/06!". |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 3:58:10 PM EDT
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I would choose a .270 or 30-06
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:01:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 30.06 has more ammunition choices, which translates to being able to load up or down from a 120gr projectile to a 220 gr projectile. .308 has slightly less recoil, and will still get the job done. Good luck. This is the reason to choose 30/06 |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:16:59 PM EDT
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When I'm not using my bow I rely on the good old 30-30. It's good for stretching out where my bow can't reach which is beyond 50 yards but less than 100 yards, 80 yards is about the sweet spot. I've just never had to shoot anything beyond 100 yards but I know the 30-30 is good out to 150 yards. I like it because it's what I've always used, it's a solid round that does what it's supposed to. I've never seen any evidence of any hydrostatic shock caused by it so it saves pretty much all the meat. It just makes a nice clean hole and slips right through tissue and organs.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 11:40:12 PM EDT
[#14]
308 is more available than 30-06 (not usually a factor for 30-06 but true right now) and they are both a lot cheaper than 6.5cm. You can also run an AR-10 on 308.
Don't get lured into breaking the bank for 6.5cm unless your really taking a lot of those long long range shots. If you don't ordinarily do some calculations before taking the shot, you don't really need it |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 10:13:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 308 is more available than 30-06 (not usually a factor for 30-06 but true right now) and they are both a lot cheaper than 6.5cm. You can also run an AR-10 on 308. Don't get lured into breaking the bank for 6.5cm unless your really taking a lot of those long long range shots. If you don't ordinarily do some calculations before taking the shot, you don't really need it A lot cheaper? Maybe if you’re shooting milsurp (which makes for lousy hunting ammo)… but for hunting rounds I don’t see much of a difference in price, especially since most folks don’t sock away thousands of rounds of high end hunting ammo (though I confess I wouldn’t mind doing so). Current ammo shortage aside, I generally see at least as much variety in 6.5 rounds at the local academy as I do .308… There are arguments to be made in favor of .30, but that isn’t a very strong one. |
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Posted: 8/1/2021 3:09:45 AM EDT
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Any of the common centerfire cartridges all have their uses. All boils down to an accurate rifle and a good bullet. The 30-06 will handle the 200-220 gr bullets that the .308 Win doesn't. I've also reloaded in sabots .224 55gr JSPs in .30 Carbine, .308 and .30-06 for varmits. The 7.9x57/8mm Mauser is also very capable but limited on available .323" bullets today.
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Posted: 8/1/2021 4:31:25 AM EDT
[#17]
I use 300 black out 9", 12" 6.8spc, or an 18" 6.5 Grendel.
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Posted: 8/1/2021 1:49:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the 6.5 Creedmoor? Not the .308? My understanding is t hat the 30-06 is an outdated cartridge with newer and more modern options. Consider how you will use it. I like 270 for all around. Just because a cartridge is newer, does not mean it's better. 30-06, .270 , 45-70, have been killing stuff pretty well for a very long time. Consider this, if you forget your new and fancy ammo, can you get more wherever you happen to be? |
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Posted: 8/1/2021 3:00:37 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Consider how you will use it. I like 270 for all around. Just because a cartridge is newer, does not mean it's better. 30-06, .270 , 45-70, have been killing stuff pretty well for a very long time. Consider this, if you forget your new and fancy ammo, can you get more wherever you happen to be? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not the 6.5 Creedmoor? Not the .308? My understanding is t hat the 30-06 is an outdated cartridge with newer and more modern options. Consider how you will use it. I like 270 for all around. Just because a cartridge is newer, does not mean it's better. 30-06, .270 , 45-70, have been killing stuff pretty well for a very long time. Consider this, if you forget your new and fancy ammo, can you get more wherever you happen to be? Being new doesn’t mean it’s worse, either. None of them are going to kill stuff any deader than the others. The local stores generally have as many varieties of 6.5CM as they do of 30-06. Both are quite capable, just pointing that out. |
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Posted: 8/1/2021 4:56:17 PM EDT
[#20]
My suggestion would be the 243 win or the 7mm-08
I do love my 243 - it has gone some 11 for 11 with four people shooting it.... Red |
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Posted: 8/1/2021 8:14:10 PM EDT
[#21]
45/70 has been my go for Deer and Hog.
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:25:28 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being new doesn’t mean it’s worse, either. None of them are going to kill stuff any deader than the others. The local stores generally have as many varieties of 6.5CM as they do of 30-06. Both are quite capable, just pointing that out. I agree. If I were starting from scratch, it might be different choices and the 6,5 CM certainly has developed a large following. Right now in hunting rifles, I've got .243, .270 and .45-70. I don't see myself going or hunting anywhere that one of those wouldn't be the right option. Lately, I've been trying to minimize ammo variety, so settling on these has made that easier. I'm set up to handload all three and components except for .243 projectiles that I prefer for varmint, have been findable. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:41:02 AM EDT
[#23]
Scoped bolt 30-06
Lever/brush gun, 30-30. Cuz its cool |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 12:16:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. If I were starting from scratch, it might be different choices and the 6,5 CM certainly has developed a large following. Right now in hunting rifles, I've got .243, .270 and .45-70. I don't see myself going or hunting anywhere that one of those wouldn't be the right option. Lately, I've been trying to minimize ammo variety, so settling on these has made that easier. I'm set up to handload all three and components except for .243 projectiles that I prefer for varmint, have been findable. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Being new doesn’t mean it’s worse, either. None of them are going to kill stuff any deader than the others. The local stores generally have as many varieties of 6.5CM as they do of 30-06. Both are quite capable, just pointing that out. I agree. If I were starting from scratch, it might be different choices and the 6,5 CM certainly has developed a large following. Right now in hunting rifles, I've got .243, .270 and .45-70. I don't see myself going or hunting anywhere that one of those wouldn't be the right option. Lately, I've been trying to minimize ammo variety, so settling on these has made that easier. I'm set up to handload all three and components except for .243 projectiles that I prefer for varmint, have been findable. All of those are more than sufficient to knock the air out of a deer, for sure. I’ve shot a bunch of deer with a .243, but I have to say I was really disappointed with the TSX/TTSX projectiles. I had high hopes, but I saw very poor performance. Small sample size and all that, but it was bad enough that I’d rather go with a big soft point. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 11:46:26 PM EDT
[#25]
Look y'all, there is nothing wrong with all those other calibers y'all are talking about.
But the 06 will work for everything. It's that simple. I my self own 3 6.5 Swedish, 3 6.5 grendels and 2 6.5 manbuns. I get it I do really. But the 06 will do it all in a pinch. Elk bear? 06 loaded with a 180-200 grain bullet. 6.5 manbun? No. Puny assed little deer? 6.5 manbun and 243womans gun sure. I am even thinking to rebarrel one of my 06s to 6.5-06. But that's because it won't do any better than 2 1\2" -3" group and I am bored. |
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Posted: 10/15/2021 9:41:33 PM EDT
[#26]
30-06 or .308. I have both and will use both during deer season and wouldn't hesitate to use them on larger game.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 9:48:43 PM EDT
[#27]
One thing to consider is that deer don’t use the metric system.
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Posted: 10/15/2021 9:55:26 PM EDT
[#28]
I hunt bear, elk, deer and boar with the 308.
For me its the easiest to find, and will knock down animals fast if you hit them correctly. |
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Posted: 10/16/2021 12:35:39 AM EDT
[#29]
If I had to have one caliber to hunt anything in the US it would absolutely be the 30-06. Hand loaded from 110-220gr, it can do pretty much anything. It's not the fastest, it's not the heaviest hitter, but it will kill anything on the continent and with reasonable recoil.
Definitely would not choose the 6.5creed. Great caliber, but definitely not a 'do all' rifle IMO unless the only thing you're doing is hunting thin skinned game and shooting targets. Just because a cartridge is older, doesn't make it any less effective. |
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Posted: 10/16/2021 2:42:34 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I had to have one caliber to hunt anything in the US it would absolutely be the 30-06. Hand loaded from 110-220gr, it can do pretty much anything. It's not the fastest, it's not the heaviest hitter, but it will kill anything on the continent and with reasonable recoil. Definitely would not choose the 6.5creed. Great caliber, but definitely not a 'do all' rifle IMO unless the only thing you're doing is hunting thin skinned game and shooting targets. Just because a cartridge is older, doesn't make it any less effective. You forgot the .224 sabot loads. Don't think Vista/Remington offers their Accelerator 55 gr JSP anymore but I've got a bag of .224 55gr JSP is .308 sabots for reloading. Wonder how a .224 77 gr OTM loaded in that sabot will work? CD |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 1:24:56 AM EDT
[#31]
I’d buy a ruger American in 6.5 creedmoor for deer. Then buy a 300WM when it’s time for bear and elk.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 1:38:34 AM EDT
[#32]
12gauge
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Posted: 10/17/2021 8:27:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Savage 110 in 30 06. Used, $350ish w cheap scope and mount. Next year upgrade to a decent scope.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 2:41:02 PM EDT
[#34]
General all around North American hunting round? If you reload, 7mm-08. If you don't reload, .308 Win.
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Posted: 10/29/2021 11:02:18 AM EDT
[#35]
I’m a die-hard .270 Winchester fan simply because my dad was. But for a “one gun for all game”, for me it would be a .30-06 (which I don’t own) simply for the bullet weights. And because I’m a traditionalist.
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Posted: 10/29/2021 6:04:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a die-hard .270 Winchester fan simply because my dad was. But for a “one gun for all game”, for me it would be a .30-06 (which I don’t own) simply for the bullet weights. And because I’m a traditionalist. Both of these are as American as apple pie and as effective as they ever have been. The .270 can play the small rifle game with its flat trajectory but punches above its weight class with the capability of taking truly large game cleanly. The old aught-six can best be described with the word versatile. Either would be a fine choice. ETA: full disclosure, the .270 Win is a favorite here too and is one of the calibers in my avatar. |
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Posted: 10/29/2021 6:50:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both of these are as American as apple pie and as effective as they ever have been. The .270 can play the small rifle game with its flat trajectory but punches above its weight class with the capability of taking truly large game cleanly. The old aught-six can best be described with the word versatile. Either would be a fine choice. ETA: full disclosure, the .270 Win is a favorite here too and is one of the calibers in my avatar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m a die-hard .270 Winchester fan simply because my dad was. But for a “one gun for all game”, for me it would be a .30-06 (which I don’t own) simply for the bullet weights. And because I’m a traditionalist. Both of these are as American as apple pie and as effective as they ever have been. The .270 can play the small rifle game with its flat trajectory but punches above its weight class with the capability of taking truly large game cleanly. The old aught-six can best be described with the word versatile. Either would be a fine choice. ETA: full disclosure, the .270 Win is a favorite here too and is one of the calibers in my avatar. Yeah, I think .30-06 and .30-30 are just about tied for the top “All American” hunting cartridge but .270 would probably be next in line. Definitely a classic and a great choice even today. |
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Posted: 10/29/2021 8:36:52 PM EDT
[#38]
.35 Whelen ... None better.
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Posted: 10/29/2021 8:42:57 PM EDT
[#39]
7mm-08
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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:05:41 PM EDT
[#40]
The 30-06 is a fine choice but really just too damned much if you are moving to GA.
.308 will kill anything you can hunt in the South. So will 6.5CM. Personally, most of the deer I've taken have been with .223, most of the time with PPU soft point ammo. Deer aren't magical. If you plan on taking game up north, like elk, moose and bear then I'd go for 6.5CM or 30-06. With all that said, the ultimate hunting caliber in my opinion is the 7x57. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:12:30 PM EDT
[#41]
What we learn in most of these thread is that there are a myriad of suitable options. Especially if whitetail is all you are concerned about. If you are already a gun guy, 308 makes sense for common ammo availability. If you want to mess with 6.5, go for it. Lots of people around me anything and everything between 300blk and 45-70. I went with a 30-06 dedicated hunting rifle because I hope to use one gun on deer and hopefully some elk in the near future, though I might get another gun just for elk. You can’t really pick a wrong caliber. Most of the budget guns like the savage axis are or Ruger American rifle are very well up to the task. I like to get complicated with my gun choices, but it doesn’t have to be. 30-06 and 308 will be available at every hole in the wall sporting goods store in this country, but so will other options
Tl;dr, deer die by most common calibers and guns. No need to get too fancy. Get what strikes your fancy and go shoot. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:27:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What we learn in most of these thread is that there are a myriad of suitable options. Especially if whitetail is all you are concerned about. If you are already a gun guy, 308 makes sense for common ammo availability. If you want to mess with 6.5, go for it. Lots of people around me anything and everything between 300blk and 45-70. I went with a 30-06 dedicated hunting rifle because I hope to use one gun on deer and hopefully some elk in the near future, though I might get another gun just for elk. You can't really pick a wrong caliber. Most of the budget guns like the savage axis are or Ruger American rifle are very well up to the task. I like to get complicated with my gun choices, but it doesn't have to be. 30-06 and 308 will be available at every hole in the wall sporting goods store in this country, but so will other options Tl;dr, deer die by most common calibers and guns. No need to get too fancy. Get what strikes your fancy and go shoot. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:35:21 PM EDT
[#43]
30-06 seems to have won the day. I am a big 30-06 believer also, BUT...
Here in Va. you don't really need that much of a rifle. I have found that my 6.8 spc is much more fitting for deer hunting. We don't have huge deer here for the most part. Moving to GA. I would think would be the same. That being said, if you only have 1 rifle, go 30-06. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 1:25:15 PM EDT
[#44]
My go-to hunting rifles are chambered in 7mm-08 and .280 Ackley Improved and I've killed many bears, deer, hogs (7-08 & 280 AI) and a caribou and a moose (280AI) with them.
You can't go wrong with either. |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 4:12:47 AM EDT
[#45]
308 is more than enough for the little white tails around here.
I stack’‘em with a 243 |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 4:19:13 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s this “meters” stuff? We don’t measure in euro-yards here. What's this "Meters" stuff?? We don't measure in 'Fag-Feet' here. 
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Posted: 11/6/2021 4:28:12 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The 30-06 is pretty much the standard for a do all American cartridge. The words "Timeless Classic" absolutely apply to the 30.06 because it STILL works to well for a wide range of game animals (and it is combat proven for many decades & Several World) Wars) Many Cartridges are descended - from or modifications of the 30.06 The .270, .308, 25-06, 35 Whelen, and many more came from the 30.06 BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 11/6/2021 5:36:52 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the 6.5 Creedmoor? Not the .308? My understanding is t hat the 30-06 is an outdated cartridge with newer and more modern options. You don’t think that 06 hasn’t benefited from modern powders an bullets? |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 12:53:59 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The words "Timeless Classic" absolutely apply to the 30.06 because it STILL works to well for a wide range of game animals (and it is combat proven for many decades & Several World) Wars) Many Cartridges are descended - from or modifications of the 30.06 The .270, .308, 25-06, 35 Whelen, and many more came from the 30.06 BIGGER_HAMMER I wonder if there is a small group of half sober russians sitting around extolling the virtues of the x54r. Frenchmen debating the 8mm lebel and 7.5mas. South americans, 7x57, 7.65 and 308. England, old smelly it's 303 and x51 Canadians, whether their milk is better bagged. (Might get fluffster on this one). The .280 Ross better in the garand (he was Canadian don't ya know ehh?)  |
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Posted: 11/6/2021 1:08:19 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a 6.5 fanboy, but if I was going to hunt bear or moose I’d probably want a bigger rifle. For other deer, it’s great, though. IMO it’s better than .308 at anything (though I have one of those, too). My .308 is my shorter barreled subsonic shooter (my creed probably doesn’t do that as well). Except it really isn't at typical hunting distances in the east. I've owned 3. |
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