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Posted: 9/10/2020 8:02:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I finally got the NC callsign but could not see him via SNR? Attempting to relay now via a station that can see him. Thanks for the dude who tried to help me relay..... not sure i know enough yet to relay correctly, but i see the NC now. Crap, forget MSG in my message... will try again..... that was me. I dont know why it wasnt working |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 8:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that was me. I dont know why it wasnt working Thanks for working on it with me! |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 8:56:04 PM EDT
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About to be on in a few min to actively play radio. I will also be monitoring the arfcoms DMR group.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:41:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Big turnout tonight. Think I have 2-3 new stations in the log.
Still on and actively monitoring JS8 and Arfcomms on DMR. Will be until 10:00est |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Big turnout tonight. Did you copy me okay? I got an "AGN" back from you and resent. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you copy me okay? I got an "AGN" back from you and resent. Yep in the log. First time was like 87% there. Just missed the carry model caliber |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 9:52:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2020 11:37:47 AM EDT
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 Attached FileGreat turnout. Lurker Fred 5903 Mach G19 aaa777 G23 LT_beaker G19 RMR Nxbmxer m&p ver 2 9mm Trigger happy 83 P365xl Mareokuma Sseagle(May have TX when RX your reply) Red bird m&p9 I think we do have some hams running @arfcoms that are non members and non lurkers so just a FYI. |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 3:10:15 PM EDT
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I'd be curious what would happen with the non-member non-lurkers if we changed @arfcom to @arfcomm (like the TGIF group.)
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Posted: 9/14/2020 3:18:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be curious what would happen with the non-member non-lurkers if we changed @arfcom to @arfcomm (like the TGIF group.) Or the game of the week is leave a msg with XXXXXX arfcom station detailing your most recent bout with dysentery. |
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Posted: 9/16/2020 10:44:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Due to possibility of storms tomorrow due to sally I’m going to sit out this week.
If others want to play have at it. I may get to play tomorrow afternoon. Just got to see what the weather is going to do. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 9:22:39 AM EDT
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I'll have my station online all day, flash flooding here but no t-storms...
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:29:16 AM EDT
[#13]
I'll leave the rig tuned to 40m and check the log this afternoon.
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:34:17 AM EDT
[#14]
Think I’ll be able to play after lunch.
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:37:24 AM EDT
[#15]
Gents,
In swampfox's absence I propose a different experiment/exercise. Tired of having all the random traffic crap-up my display, I've set up on the 40M arfcom digi mode freq., 7114KHz (dial). My actual freq. is 7114KHz+1800Hz but remember its better not to match that or anyone else's offset. Running 300W into a modified half-square. My station is sending heartbeats every 30 minutes since this frequency is uncrowded. My reply to an "INFO?" is "ARFCOM". I should reply to @arfcom group calls. While the stated purpose of staying on the main JS8 sub-band was to provide for relays, I don't know of anyone who accomplishes that with any regularity. So screw that noise! Leave me a message in my inbox if you like and I'll report out on the results later. eta: heatbeats are going out at 10 and 40 min's past the hour. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:46:29 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gents, In swampfox's absence I propose a different experiment/exercise. Tired of having all the random traffic crap-up my display, I've set up on the 40M arfcom digi mode freq., 7114KHz (dial). My actual freq. is 7114KHz+1800Hz but remember its better not to match that or anyone else's offset. Running 300W into a modified half-square. My station is sending heartbeats every 30 minutes since this frequency is uncrowded. My reply to an "INFO?" is "ARFCOM". I should reply to @arfcom group calls. While the stated purpose of staying on the main JS8 sub-band was to provide for relays, I don't know of anyone who accomplishes that with any regularity. So screw that noise! Leave me a message in my inbox if you like and I'll report out on the results later. eta: heatbeats are going out at 10 and 40 min's past the hour. Cool, I'll play de KB3***. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:55:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gents, In swampfox's absence I propose a different experiment/exercise. Tired of having all the random traffic crap-up my display, I've set up on the 40M arfcom digi mode freq., 7114KHz (dial). My actual freq. is 7114KHz+1800Hz but remember its better not to match that or anyone else's offset. Running 300W into a modified half-square. My station is sending heartbeats every 30 minutes since this frequency is uncrowded. My reply to an "INFO?" is "ARFCOM". I should reply to @arfcom group calls. While the stated purpose of staying on the main JS8 sub-band was to provide for relays, I don't know of anyone who accomplishes that with any regularity. So screw that noise! . Just about every week I get a relay or a msg stored on another station usually a arfcom station. The main reason we stay on the JS8 freq is because of this like I have stated numerous times in the past. If one wants to use JS8 on some random freq buy all means do but you are loosing 90% of the utility that JS8 provides. If using a random freq one might as well run Olivia or some other weak signal mode that does not have the networking features that JS8 gives. After lunch I will have my station on the standard 40M JS8 freq for anyone who wants to check in. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:58:15 AM EDT
[#18]
 Attached FileQuestion for the week has Fall arrived in your AO yet? Will be monitoring 40m beginning at 12:30 noon est. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:11:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just about every week I get a relay or a msg stored on another station usually a arfcom station. Quote HistoryQuoted: Just about every week I get a relay or a msg stored on another station usually a arfcom station. If one wants to use JS8 on some random freq buy all means do but you are loosing 90% of the utility that JS8 provides. If using a random freq one might as well run Olivia or some other weak signal mode that does not have the networking features that JS8 gives. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:13:57 AM EDT
[#20]
@Dave_Markowitz I see your traffic no problem!
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:37:23 AM EDT
[#21]
If you turn off @allcall and hb ack's you shouldn't have a lot of traffic showing up on your decoder window, only someone who is txing on your rx frequency.
I relay into SFO nearly every week, it's typically the only way I can reach him on 40m in the daytime. I bounce in through one of the midwestern stations. The relaying functions of JS8 are the part I like, esp being able to relay a msg and store it on the destinations inbox. I find I have a lot of no-decodes and it's very unreliable and frustrating to actually have a QSO. If it would do error correction and get an ack before each block I'd like it a lot more but it would be slower. FT8 works so well as it will send the same block over and over waiting for the next msg in sequence before it proceeds. The priority that the JS8 algorithm places on 100% accurate block decoding is wrong in my opinion, give me 75% of the block and I can use my brain to figure out what they wrote. Two skipped decodes and I've now got no idea wtf you are talking about and I'll have to send you an agn? and wait another 3min. If enough users were on 7114 JS8 would work fine, but without the pool of potential relays I'd rather use a different mode that is more reliable. Olivia with decent rx power can get out in the middle of a t-storm, flmsg can send directed messages, winlink is far easier to use for store/fwd esp if one of the stations has access to the internet. I see next to no value in JS8 for an emcomm situation and reliability is a real downer for me as I want to like it. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 11:39:28 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Dave_Markowitz I see your traffic no problem! Cool, saw you as well. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 12:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you turn off @allcall and hb ack's you shouldn't have a lot of traffic showing up on your decoder window, only someone who is txing on your rx frequency. Quote HistoryQuoted: If you turn off @allcall and hb ack's you shouldn't have a lot of traffic showing up on your decoder window, only someone who is txing on your rx frequency. I find I have a lot of no-decodes and it's very unreliable and frustrating to actually have a QSO. If it would do error correction and get an ack before each block I'd like it a lot more but it would be slower. FT8 works so well as it will send the same block over and over waiting for the next msg in sequence before it proceeds. The priority that the JS8 algorithm places on 100% accurate block decoding is wrong in my opinion, give me 75% of the block and I can use my brain to figure out what they wrote. Two skipped decodes and I've now got no idea wtf you are talking about and I'll have to send you an agn? and wait another 3min.  If enough users were on 7114 JS8 would work fine, but without the pool of potential relays I'd rather use a different mode that is more reliable. Olivia with decent rx power can get out in the middle of a t-storm, flmsg can send directed messages, winlink is far easier to use for store/fwd esp if one of the stations has access to the internet. I see next to no value in JS8 for an emcomm situation and reliability is a real downer for me as I want to like it.  ). JS8 is also limited because Jordan seems philosophically opposed to including net-centric features like auto-deselect. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 12:38:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: JS8 performance is better than Olivia performance by 10dB, give or take depending on the sub-modes selected. Quote HistoryQuoted: JS8 performance is better than Olivia performance by 10dB, give or take depending on the sub-modes selected. I should look up what the windows are named... Quoted: I agree with you for messages longer than just a few words. At which point I could just use custom messages in WSJT-X FT8 if I wanted to single blocks one at a time. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 1:17:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Up and on 40m with 2 in the log.
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Posted: 9/17/2020 1:27:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:At which point I could just use custom messages in WSJT-X FT8 if I wanted to single blocks one at a time. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 1:44:20 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll leave the rig tuned to 40m and check the log this afternoon. did you get any of my msgs last week in your inbox? |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 1:48:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2020 1:53:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This sums up JS8Call for me: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/68732/Capture_JPG-1595325.JPG Timing is good and SNR is 00, should have decoded. Weird. I did receive your reply to my HB signal. Timing better be good, my laptop is connected to a GPS receiver and I'm running NMEATime now. :) |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 2:11:54 PM EDT
[#30]
SFO sent me a txt and his decode looked just like mine.
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Posted: 9/17/2020 2:16:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird. I did receive your reply to my HB signal. Timing better be good, my laptop is connected to a GPS receiver and I'm running NMEATime now. :) Got you in the log. BTW. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 6:08:08 PM EDT
[#32]
Good copy, @Mach
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Posted: 9/17/2020 6:59:07 PM EDT
[#33]
I cant see the nc
I tried to relay off 2 stations that hear nc. NC you finally popped up here at -13, I got an ACK!! ... Band is getting better nc is +9. now +11 |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:13:45 PM EDT
[#34]
@swampfoxoutdoors
I broadcast out via @arf and @ your call sign....got no reply. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:16:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @swampfoxoutdoors I broadcast out via @arf and @ your call sign....got no reply. @arfcom is the group name. You can also just send me one direct to my call sign. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:32:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gents, In swampfox's absence I propose a different experiment/exercise. Tired of having all the random traffic crap-up my display, I've set up on the 40M arfcom digi mode freq., 7114KHz (dial). My actual freq. is 7114KHz+1800Hz but remember its better not to match that or anyone else's offset. Running 300W into a modified half-square. My station is sending heartbeats every 30 minutes since this frequency is uncrowded. My reply to an "INFO?" is "ARFCOM". I should reply to @arfcom group calls. While the stated purpose of staying on the main JS8 sub-band was to provide for relays, I don't know of anyone who accomplishes that with any regularity. So screw that noise! Leave me a message in my inbox if you like and I'll report out on the results later. eta: heatbeats are going out at 10 and 40 min's past the hour. @aa777888-2 Just sent. |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:51:40 PM EDT
[#37]
Just sent an @arfcom a msg and got 2 acks. So, at least 2 people heard me!
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Posted: 9/17/2020 8:54:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @arfcom is the group name. You can also just send me one direct to my call sign. Just sent to your call sign and @arfcom as well.... |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:26:25 PM EDT
[#39]
Have moved to 80m for the rest of the night .
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Posted: 9/17/2020 10:33:58 PM EDT
[#40]
Made it in tonight... ;)
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Posted: 9/18/2020 9:04:31 AM EDT
[#41]
 Attached FileNet Results Dave_m Mach Lurker sseagle NXbmxer JS8 and DMR check in  planemaker (the only none Fall check in) slarti enjoyed the QSO mareokuma And 1 interloper a DRR station Guys just a FYI this will be my last regular week conducting the JS8 net. I would like to see this kept going, so if anyone is interested in taking the reins just send me a PM and I will update the OP. I still plan on participating and helping out as much as I can but I have other irons in the fire and this is no longer a priority to me. Whomever takes it over can run it however they see fit. If I have more than one interested I will let the interested parties get together and discuss how they want to do it. If no one is interested I will revert back to net control on a bi-weekly or monthly basis. 73 |
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