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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: There are currently a couple of the THALES 8 bay chargers (which normally go for about View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Josh: That's a 4-bay charger btw. It can charge 8 batteries, but not 8 MBITR batteries. It's only got 4 spots for MBITR/152 batteries unless I'm missing something. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Josh: That's a 4-bay charger btw. It can charge 8 batteries, but not 8 MBITR batteries. It's only got 4 spots for MBITR/152 batteries unless I'm missing something. Originally Posted By phurba:
So on another one of their pages: Is that just for the previous gen of radios? The main difference between the newer version TRI/TCA rechargeable batteries versus the Harris ones, is the Harris ones have the recharging points on the bottom of the battery, whereas the TRI/TCA ones do not. The chargers you put on top of the TRI/TCA ones look like the Harris/Thales chargers of the same build, but I'm not sure I would hook the TRI/TCI top chargers to the real batteries, nor would I attempt to recharge the TRI/TCA batters on a real Harris/Thales charger of any sorts. Being able to buy real Harris batteries at around $25 each, as opposed to the TRI/TCA ones costing over $100 each, and having to have them imported, makes adding extra batteries with real ones a no-brainer, in my opinion. ETA - totally beat to the point by OutlanderSystems |
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I picked one of these up I'm pretty impressed with it. I think I'm going to try to get another couple of them, either buy them or trade. If anyone is interested I have 2 Bendix King KNG-P400s (380-450) I'd do a straight trade 1 for 1.
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Originally Posted By phurba:
Anybody know if the remote port is intelligible enough to use with a vehicular adapter? https://www.american-milspec.com/images/product/large/amp30s-6323_1_.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
I wondered the same thing. I would like to mount one in my hummer and have it work with the other components. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Anybody know if the remote port is intelligible enough to use with a vehicular adapter? https://www.american-milspec.com/images/product/large/amp30s-6323_1_.jpg |
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Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
I wondered the same thing. I would like to mount one in my hummer and have it work with the other components. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Anybody know if the remote port is intelligible enough to use with a vehicular adapter? https://www.american-milspec.com/images/product/large/amp30s-6323_1_.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
If you were going to mount one in a vehicle, why not just buy something like a PRC113 (which can be found on Ebay for like 800 bucks), if you had to have something along those lines? Personally, for a vehicle, I would just look at any capable and affordable mobile ham radio made specifically for that application, which could also communicate on the same freqs? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Anybody know if the remote port is intelligible enough to use with a vehicular adapter? https://www.american-milspec.com/images/product/large/amp30s-6323_1_.jpg I have a convertacom for my XTS3000s which is basically the same thing as the VA. It has pros and cons compared to another radio, but it's nice to be able to switch from handheld to mobile use and back. I rarely need to operate more than one radio at a time anyway. |
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Originally Posted By phurba:
113 is AM-only and doesn't cover the same frequency range as the TRI. I have a convertacom for my XTS3000s which is basically the same thing as the VA. It has pros and cons compared to another radio, but it's nice to be able to switch from handheld to mobile use and back. I rarely need to operate more than one radio at a time anyway. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: If you were going to mount one in a vehicle, why not just buy something like a PRC113 (which can be found on Ebay for like 800 bucks), if you had to have something along those lines? Personally, for a vehicle, I would just look at any capable and affordable mobile ham radio made specifically for that application, which could also communicate on the same freqs? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
It looked a lot like an R-311, but was a transceiver. At the time, I thought it was some weird DC power supply, and threw it out. View Quote How you thought it was DC power supply made me lol though... On the plus side most soviet era rigs are a nightmare to keep running. |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
It looked a lot like an R-311, but was a transceiver. At the time, I thought it was some weird DC power supply, and threw it out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By phurba:
113 is AM-only and doesn't cover the same frequency range as the TRI. I have a convertacom for my XTS3000s which is basically the same thing as the VA. It has pros and cons compared to another radio, but it's nice to be able to switch from handheld to mobile use and back. I rarely need to operate more than one radio at a time anyway. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: Ah gotcha, didn't look up the specs on the 113, only time I looked at it, saw it wasn't HF and moved on. I'd only ever be interested in a man-pack radio if it was HF. Good luck finding a 138 though, eh? They seem to pop up every now and again, but not when I actually happen to be looking. View Quote |
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They are only 25k step too I think.
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From post above: “Being able to buy real Harris batteries at around $25 each,”
Any tips on where to find these? |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
Seems to be working so far. No PTT in the loop, so manual activation is required. Also had to jack microphone settings to the max. I’ll fiddle with it some more later, and see how other stations copy. For $30 I’m not complaining...yet. https://i.ibb.co/p3kMB5L/E5195-D52-3-D8-C-48-B1-A2-EE-171413-B318-E5.jpg https://i.ibb.co/k4RLYph/333-AADDF-C819-44-E5-B242-3-E0-B64-B65087.jpg View Quote |
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It works. $40 total with W-4 jumper.
Failed To Load Title So, after adjusting levels, I was able to get the device to transmit/receive various digital modes using FLDigi. The only other way I know to do this is to use a two-pin adapter ($40) and a SignaLink USB ($120). Only negative I’ve encountered so far is getting the levels set up and the PTT to transmit. |
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PM me. Originally Posted By All10X:
From post above: “Being able to buy real Harris batteries at around $25 each,” Any tips on where to find these? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By All10X:
From post above: “Being able to buy real Harris batteries at around $25 each,” Any tips on where to find these? 2-Pin Adapter Tested it with a couple of aux cables and a USB sound card. Had to manually toggle the 3.5 when TX’ing due to the ground loop, but it absolutely works. Originally Posted By phurba:
Where did you get the 2 pin adapter you posted a few pages back? Ultimately I plan on building a cable with a USB sound card inline but that cable would let me rock with equipment I already have. |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
@All10X PM me. Right here my guy: 2-Pin Adapter Tested it with a couple of aux cables and a USB sound card. Had to manually toggle the 3.5 when TX'ing due to the ground loop, but it absolutely works. View Quote https://www.ebay.com/itm/David-Clark-General-Dynamics-Communications-Headset-for-MBITR-AN-PRC-148-More/131902881749?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144 |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
It works. $40 total with W-4 jumper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofdo7o2sqyU So, after adjusting levels, I was able to get the device to transmit/receive various digital modes using FLDigi. The only other way I know to do this is to use a two-pin adapter ($40) and a SignaLink USB ($120). Only negative I’ve encountered so far is getting the levels set up and the PTT to transmit. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By phurba:
How are you handling T/R switching? The 152 doesn't have VOX does it? View Quote I've gotten data to work with some old Moto radios using their Voiceducer accessory that adds a VOX circuit. Could probably adapt one of those to the 6-pin hook-up and then just need to straight wire it to audio-in/audio-out. |
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That’s a lot of serious hardware for ~$100!
Originally Posted By GunnyG:
Since you guys just forced me to spend some money, here's another source, this time for an appropriate 6 pin David Clark PTT, and they are throwing in the same GD USB box, as well as a single side DC headset with a U-329 connector, all for just under $100: https://www.ebay.com/itm/David-Clark-General-Dynamics-Communications-Headset-for-MBITR-AN-PRC-148-More/131902881749?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/12179/446DC01B-ABDC-4F97-A387-4AB889963881-1100615.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GunnyG:
Since you guys just forced me to spend some money, here's another source, this time for an appropriate 6 pin David Clark PTT, and they are throwing in the same GD USB box, as well as a single side DC headset with a U-329 connector, all for just under $100: https://www.ebay.com/itm/David-Clark-General-Dynamics-Communications-Headset-for-MBITR-AN-PRC-148-More/131902881749?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/12179/446DC01B-ABDC-4F97-A387-4AB889963881-1100615.png The video below is from a few nights ago, using the home brew “interface” that consists of the 2pin adapter, usb sound-card, 3.5mm aux cable, 2.5mm aux cable, and 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter. It’s not elegant but it definitely works: Failed To Load Title Originally Posted By phurba:
How are you handling T/R switching? The 152 doesn't have VOX does it? |
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Originally Posted By D_Man:
It does not, and it sounds like the GD box doesn't have a PTT circuit either. Based on his post, he's manually holding the radio's PTT while sending the data message. I've gotten data to work with some old Moto radios using their Voiceducer accessory that adds a VOX circuit. Could probably adapt one of those to the 6-pin hook-up and then just need to straight wire it to audio-in/audio-out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D_Man:
Originally Posted By phurba:
How are you handling T/R switching? The 152 doesn't have VOX does it? I've gotten data to work with some old Moto radios using their Voiceducer accessory that adds a VOX circuit. Could probably adapt one of those to the 6-pin hook-up and then just need to straight wire it to audio-in/audio-out. I thought about using a prolific chip to add a USB serial port, but that would require either using 2 USB cables (no go in my situation since the tablet I want to use this with only has 1 USB port) or integrating a USB hub (PITA). The USB sound card might have an unused GPIO or SPI line though... |
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This is correct. The TCA 148 I ordered, which still hasn’t arrived yet, has vox on board, so I’ll be very curious to see how it plays with the GD Box. If push comes to shove, modifying an old Jedi Vox box would be cool as hell.
Originally Posted By D_Man:
It does not, and it sounds like the GD box doesn't have a PTT circuit either. Based on his post, he's manually holding the radio's PTT while sending the data message. I've gotten data to work with some old Moto radios using their Voiceducer accessory that adds a VOX circuit. Could probably adapt one of those to the 6-pin hook-up and then just need to straight wire it to audio-in/audio-out. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
It works. $40 total with W-4 jumper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofdo7o2sqyU So, after adjusting levels, I was able to get the device to transmit/receive various digital modes using FLDigi. The only other way I know to do this is to use a two-pin adapter ($40) and a SignaLink USB ($120). Only negative I’ve encountered so far is getting the levels set up and the PTT to transmit. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
As soon as the 3.5mm cable is plugged in the transmitter keys up because of a ground loop. View Quote just a thought |
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Originally Posted By All10X:
From post above: “Being able to buy real Harris batteries at around $25 each,” Any tips on where to find these? View Quote American-Milspec |
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Originally Posted By OutlanderSystems:
Digital mode update. Using the adapter/interface shown below corrected all issues with I/O signal levels. Levels are normalized compared to the relatively low output audio being sent directly to the radio via jumper. By running the CW Adapter Unit to the radio via jumper, and feeding the GD Box via the Audio line out, the input/output levels are in-line with what should be effectively used for NBEMS. https://i.ibb.co/5hxHrBw/4-BFAAEEE-9-C3-E-4-FAE-B143-2164-BA8444-B4.jpg So just to recap on the recipe: 1 6-pin radio capable of pushing Dynamic Mics 1 General Dynamics USB Audio Adapter / Type II 1 W-4 SINCGARS Jumper Cable 1 Harris Y-Adapter / CW Interface View Quote |
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Anyone recommend any of the current ebay sellers as there are a ton and prices between $275 and $350. Or which one of the two below would you buy?
For example, the one below is $273 + shipping (~$25) and located here in the US: https://www.ebay.com/itm/10W-TRI-AN-PRC-152-METAL-SHELL-MBITR-RADIO-INVISIO-SILYNX-DEVGRU-SEAL-MARSOC-FR/254357213981 And this one is $308 plus shipping from China (~$30) but claims to be a real battery. https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIMITED-EDITION-ALUMINUM-SHELL10W-TRI-AN-PRC-152-MBITR-RADIO-REAL152-BATTERY/264391481611?hash=item3d8ef5d90b:g:CpcAAOSw86BcC~IV |
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Originally Posted By phurba:
From the non mil comms thread: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/207473/01910BE5-1D03-4749-BC79-B474EC59FA2E_jpeg-1024307.JPG Anybody know what the speaker and power supply base are? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Yeehaa:
@phurba, which thread is this pic from? Link, please. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Yeehaa:
Originally Posted By phurba:
From the non mil comms thread: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/207473/01910BE5-1D03-4749-BC79-B474EC59FA2E_jpeg-1024307.JPG Anybody know what the speaker and power supply base are? |
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Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
Anyone recommend any of the current ebay sellers as there are a ton and prices between $275 and $350. Or which one of the two below would you buy? For example, the one below is $273 + shipping (~$25) and located here in the US: https://www.ebay.com/itm/10W-TRI-AN-PRC-152-METAL-SHELL-MBITR-RADIO-INVISIO-SILYNX-DEVGRU-SEAL-MARSOC-FR/254357213981 And this one is $308 plus shipping from China (~$30) but claims to be a real battery. https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIMITED-EDITION-ALUMINUM-SHELL10W-TRI-AN-PRC-152-MBITR-RADIO-REAL152-BATTERY/264391481611?hash=item3d8ef5d90b:g:CpcAAOSw86BcC~IV View Quote ETA - ordered twice from this seller, no problems: Ebay Link ETA 2 - Link fixed. Pain in the rear doing it on a phone. |
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Anyone interested in someo CR123 type MBITR batteries and battery eliminator plates with leads? I will have a few soon and in the EE. The 123 type make good candidates for recelling. The eliminator plates are just tops of batteries basically with leads for BB2590 type batteries but you could wire in a different plug for 12v or whatever.
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PM me with deets on the BB2590 adapters.
Originally Posted By mancow:
Anyone interested in someo CR123 type MBITR batteries and battery eliminator plates with leads? I will have a few soon and in the EE. The 123 type make good candidates for recelling. The eliminator plates are just tops of batteries basically with leads for BB2590 type batteries but you could wire in a different plug for 12v or whatever. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By mancow:
Anyone interested in someo CR123 type MBITR batteries and battery eliminator plates with leads? I will have a few soon and in the EE. The 123 type make good candidates for recelling. The eliminator plates are just tops of batteries basically with leads for BB2590 type batteries but you could wire in a different plug for 12v or whatever. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew: I got a couple from a seller in the US so it wouldn’t go slow through the customs part. That said, the seller you linked on top had some “in stock” and I ordered from that one, only to get a message that they were actually out of stock and then subsequently cancelled my order. Said they’d contact me when more came in, but by then I found another seller in the US that shipped them the next day. ETA - ordered twice from this seller, no problems: Ebay Link . View Quote |
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So after following this thread for the last few weeks I finally broke down and bought one of the PRC-152 models from TRI just basically for the coolness factor and it goes with all the other militaria in my office. That and I am a consummate Radio whore. Anyway I just have two questions -- is there a decent guide somewhere online to help program these? preferably one where the poster does not spend 30 mins talking about themselves then glosses over programming in 5 mins. and Is it supposed to be this hard to mate up the handset connector ?!? holy crap it feels like I am going to break it if I push or turn harder.
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Originally Posted By offctr:
So after following this thread for the last few weeks I finally broke down and bought one of the PRC-152 models from TRI just basically for the coolness factor and it goes with all the other militaria in my office. That and I am a consummate Radio whore. Anyway I just have two questions -- is there a decent guide somewhere online to help program these? preferably one where the poster does not spend 30 mins talking about themselves then glosses over programming in 5 mins. and Is it supposed to be this hard to mate up the handset connector ?!? holy crap it feels like I am going to break it if I push or turn harder. View Quote |
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So I tried reading most everything but didn't fully understand what the difference, if any, there is between the 148 and 152?
It might be good if someone with more understanding of these units could post a comparison, maybe we could even sticky it in this section. Plus from what I understand there is some difference between the two main manufacturers. Definitely interested in one of these. |
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