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Posted: 8/20/2018 10:40:42 PM EDT
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I have an FT991. My CAT settings are 8,2,None; no DTR/RTS, CAT PTT, Data/Pkt & Fake It. That's what worked for me with WSJT-X, and worked first try with FT8Call. I remember having some trouble getting CAT to work with this radio initially, and the trick was settings in the radio (although I'm not 100% positive I'll remember which ones). If it's changing frequencies via CAT, but no signal is coming out, I'd put money on a radio setting. If that's the case, let me know and I'll find / share all of my radio menu settings. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, I downloaded ft8call and installed. Problem is I can't get it to work quite right with my 991. I'm sure it's got something to do with RTS and CAT control but I can't seem to figure out what the right settings are. What seems to happen is as soon as I crank up the program, the radio gets keyed up and transmits nothing (since the program isn't sending it anything). I may go on the groups web site and see if anybody is running a 991 and what their settings are. I remember having some trouble getting CAT to work with this radio initially, and the trick was settings in the radio (although I'm not 100% positive I'll remember which ones). If it's changing frequencies via CAT, but no signal is coming out, I'd put money on a radio setting. If that's the case, let me know and I'll find / share all of my radio menu settings. |
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Posted: 8/21/2018 6:55:41 AM EDT
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I think this could be a very useful mode for the digi guard channels. The ability to automatically control and route messages through other stations is very useful. This software hits a few of the points brought up in a thread here when FT8 was first introduced and we were trying to find uses for it for communicating. Multiple transmissions for longer text and direct messaging are two of them. It would be useful to be able to send "allcall cq arfcom" or "w1aw call me at +1500 olivia 16/500" and get someone. A few features on my wish list:
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Posted: 8/21/2018 10:23:53 AM EDT
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I installed it last night and one arfcommer's system in NV was reporting hearing my calls and beacons, and that was with 5 watts.
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Posted: 8/21/2018 6:45:10 PM EDT
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I installed it last night and one arfcommer's system in NV was reporting hearing my calls and beacons, and that was with 5 watts. |
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Posted: 8/21/2018 8:43:50 PM EDT
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Just installed it today & got it working with the 590. It doesn't like the VSPE .com splitter so that was a hiccup, but did fine with the native port assigned to the USB connection. Ran a beacon on 14.080 for a bit & saw hits on pskreporter. Is there a good time slot for trying the digital guard freq?
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Posted: 8/21/2018 8:49:09 PM EDT
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Just installed it today & got it working with the 590. It doesn't like the VSPE .com splitter so that was a hiccup, but did fine with the native port assigned to the USB connection. Ran a beacon on 14.080 for a bit & saw hits on pskreporter. Is there a good time slot for trying the digital guard freq? |
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Posted: 8/21/2018 11:27:05 PM EDT
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I'll be joining y'all soon. I got FT8CALL installed today and made sure it works. Sent a few beacons and they showed up on PSKReporter. I set it for 50W peak out and got all over NA without outrageously high SNR reports.
I'll leave my radio on during work tomorrow especially from :00 to :10 and see if I get anyone on 14067.5. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:12:09 AM EDT
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I'll be joining y'all soon. I got FT8CALL installed today and made sure it works. Sent a few beacons and they showed up on PSKReporter. I set it for 50W peak out and got all over NA without outrageously high SNR reports. I'll leave my radio on during work tomorrow especially from :00 to :10 and see if I get anyone on 14067.5. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:29:48 AM EDT
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I will leave my radio on 14.0675 today.
I just sent an Allcall and got nada. 20 isn't open yet. Or maybe I need to run more power. Or maybe no one is there |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:40:11 AM EDT
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Excellent! That was almost definitely me, although I wasn't in the shack. Were you on the guard frequency (I am still switching there at the top of the hour for 10 min, and then back to the suggested FT8Call frequencies on 20 / 40 meters)? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I installed it last night and one arfcommer's system in NV was reporting hearing my calls and beacons, and that was with 5 watts. That explains why my signal was not reported by your shack to pskreporter except for a small window of time. dont remember what time it was . |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:13:39 AM EDT
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I will leave my radio on 14.0675 today. I just sent an Allcall and got nada. 20 isn't open yet. Or maybe I need to run more power. Or maybe no one is there |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:20:34 AM EDT
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Yeah, I answered you.
I sent other traffic, guess it didn't make it. FWIW: I was running 600 watts |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:27:20 AM EDT
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Wow! Surprised it faded like it did. I was running about 35 watts here.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:44:58 AM EDT
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I'll turn mine on and leave it on. I'm not in front of the radio (because it's distracting and I actually do have a job). But it'll be on in 5 minutes.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:52:22 AM EDT
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I'll turn mine on and leave it on. I'm not in front of the radio (because it's distracting and I actually do have a job). But it'll be on in 5 minutes. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:54:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: am I connected to u? CDN Make sure "Auto" is on. And if you've turned on TX Watchguard in settings, turn it off, as that setting is bugged. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:59:39 AM EDT
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rgr just realized that was just 2 watts
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Posted: 8/22/2018 12:06:04 PM EDT
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I'll turn mine on and leave it on. I'm not in front of the radio (because it's distracting and I actually do have a job). But it'll be on in 5 minutes. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 12:07:40 PM EDT
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leaving the shack and leaving it running.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 12:11:30 PM EDT
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leaving the shack and leaving it running. TinLeg: Those other SNRs you got from me are from 14.080, as the buffer doesn't clear on auto QSY. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 12:21:10 PM EDT
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You should have a message on your screen when you return. TinLeg: Those other SNRs you got from me are from 14.080, as the buffer doesn't clear on auto QSY. I've mine set to expire after 15 minutes or so. But I'm not changing freqs on a schedule either. WSJT-X has the ability to run a second instance (for another radio or audio device at least). It's possible you could figure the same thing with FT8CALL. I haven't experimented because I'm back to working. As soon as I finish this post. maybe. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 12:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya. Realized that was a possibility after I queried. I've mine set to expire after 15 minutes or so. But I'm not changing freqs on a schedule either. WSJT-X has the ability to run a second instance (for another radio or audio device at least). It's possible you could figure the same thing with FT8CALL. I haven't experimented because I'm back to working. As soon as I finish this post. maybe. Yes, I'm running multiple instances. The parameters are the same as WSJT-X; I just put the below into a batch file that I save on my desktop. cdcd\FT8Call\ft8call\bin ft8call --rig-name=Flex ETA: For those not familiar, the other instance(s) just needs a different rig name, and then each .bat file will call up a separate instance of FT8Call. You'll have to configure settings for each instance, of course. |
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Posted: 8/23/2018 10:34:21 AM EDT
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Wow! Surprised it faded like it did. I was running about 35 watts here. I am running 15 watts and am getting good signal reports all over the country and Europe, but I see your station on the map and it appears you are not hearing me at all. Which is weird. I heard you fine yesterday, but you were not printing me. I am being heard -10 in California. I am actually getting positive (+) signal reports in a lot of places. Weird |
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Posted: 8/23/2018 10:52:48 AM EDT
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I'll restart my beacon today
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Posted: 8/23/2018 7:45:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am looking at PSK reporter right now. I am running 15 watts and am getting good signal reports all over the country and Europe, but I see your station on the map and it appears you are not hearing me at all. Which is weird. I heard you fine yesterday, but you were not printing me. I am being heard -10 in California. I am actually getting positive (+) signal reports in a lot of places. Weird I've been listening on both 14.0675 and 14.080 while at work; I'll flip the one that's on 14.080 to 7.080 soon. If anyone wants to try the 40 meter guard frequency I can go there too. |
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Posted: 8/23/2018 11:05:48 PM EDT
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Back on freq.
Parked myself at 20M guard freq (14.0675) + 2000. Running 20W. Low OCF dipole in West TN. Lots of power line noise at the moment, so take SNR as it is worth. Gonna be here until Friday afternoon when I get some time to play radio. I talked to my supervisor (myself) and he gave me Friday off, so I'll be playing some radio off and on. During those times I may be elsewhere. Y'all feel free to test whatever with my radio. KK4 call. Should be only Arfcom here so feel free to play around. Thanks to K7*** and everyone else on board. K7, you are -09 at 0300Z, BTW! |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:04:07 AM EDT
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I'm also back on 14.0675 for the day. Auto is on, but the shack is unattended.
Popov: You should have a pop-up msg; hope prop was good enough to get through. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:09:25 AM EDT
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I am also parked on 14.0675
Will leave the radio on all day. Callsign prefix is AB8 |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:18:25 AM EDT
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You guys are a bad influence. I'm listening and trying to get the hang of this.
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:24:16 AM EDT
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You guys are a bad influence. I'm listening and trying to get the hang of this. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:24:16 AM EDT
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You guys are a bad influence. I'm listening and trying to get the hang of this.  We've been waiting for you!
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:26:51 AM EDT
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I am also parked on 14.0675 Will leave the radio on all day. Callsign prefix is AB8 |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 11:19:07 AM EDT
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I'm also back on 14.0675 for the day. Auto is on, but the shack is unattended. Popov: You should have a pop-up msg; hope prop was good enough to get through. Edit: I see the message in my buffer but didn't have a pop-up when I got in front of the computer. I wonder if the do "expire"? |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 12:52:47 PM EDT
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Make sure your clocks are synced, it looks like some signals are offset a second or two.
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Posted: 8/24/2018 1:38:59 PM EDT
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Looks like someone is trying to get through now but is having audio problems. The tones look and sound very weird.
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Posted: 8/24/2018 3:54:40 PM EDT
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Didn't see a popup message, but just got back in the shack. I don't know if those "expire" or not? Edit: I see the message in my buffer but didn't have a pop-up when I got in front of the computer. I wonder if the do "expire"? |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 4:55:36 PM EDT
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I'm curious - one 500hz slice is enough to transmit a few characters in 15 seconds.
For a long message, why not transmit across several slices? It seems like such an obvious way to increase throughput between two stations - it seems odd it's not already done. What am I missing? |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:21:40 PM EDT
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Wouldn't that be a hardware issue ? Transmitting more than one signal at the same time ? I am under the impression that this isn't so much designed for "ragchewing" as it is for sending short messages under less than optimal conditions. For example you are portable using a QRP rig and a field antenna at a very moderate height. You could check in, let people know you are OK. Maybe give them your location.......... You can ragchew on it. It is just a PITA. Another use might be to have someone monitoring FT8 CALL and then sending them a message to go to a different frequency and mode for an actual ragchew. If conditions permit. Again, say you are off the beaten track somewhere operating portable from a tent. You establish communications with FT8 Call and then move to another mode for conversation. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:43:00 PM EDT
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I'm curious - one 500hz slice is enough to transmit a few characters in 15 seconds. For a long message, why not transmit across several slices? It seems like such an obvious way to increase throughput between two stations - it seems odd it's not already done. What am I missing? https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf 444: I'm still not hearing you well, but it appears you're hearing me at -8 most recently. Maybe I've got a null in your direction on RX! |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:57:53 PM EDT
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If conditions and equipment allow it, and you want to rag chew, use psk31.
This is not intended to be used like that. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 5:59:13 PM EDT
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Here are three interesting articles from a vlogger in Finland that is using FT8Call in a man-portable setup:
https://oh8stn.org/blog/2018/08/13/x-days-off-grid-radio-raspberry-pi-prerequisites/ https://oh8stn.org/blog/2018/08/13/off-grid-clock-sync-on-raspberry-pi-ublox-usb-gps/ https://oh8stn.org/blog/2018/08/19/ft8call-fear-phobia-and-haters/ I may have just ordered an RPi and a GPS for myself for my birthday . My intention is to put the RPi setup in my truck to use with my 857D, as my experience with dedicating a small PC tablet for the task has been meh. I carry at least one iOS device with me all the time, so it makes sense to use VLC via an ad-hoc wireless network as he does to talk to the radio without wires.
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Posted: 8/24/2018 6:03:47 PM EDT
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I'll try one again now and we'll see if it works. The first message I sent was pretty long; not sure if that matters? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't see a popup message, but just got back in the shack. I don't know if those "expire" or not? Edit: I see the message in my buffer but didn't have a pop-up when I got in front of the computer. I wonder if the do "expire"? |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 6:06:01 PM EDT
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I got the popup message for the message you sent at 19:56. I ack'd sent you one back at 22:00 but don't know if you could hear me. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 6:27:17 PM EDT
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I've hopped off guard for a bit to play around. Will be back later.
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:42:23 PM EDT
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I'm off the guard frequencies for the night. I'm going to try to monitor 160 meters after seeing AK / WA were there last night.
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Posted: 8/24/2018 10:54:24 PM EDT
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If conditions and equipment allow it, and you want to rag chew, use psk31. This is not intended to be used like that. It makes sense (from the 50000 foot level) to try to get more throughput. As I said, it seems like an obvious solution. Amateur radio is about experimentation, isn't it? Surely it's an idea worth discussing - if not exploring. |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 11:49:50 PM EDT
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Will have to give a losten tomorroe. Got my 50ft wire vertical up and managed a few 160 contacts.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:03:02 AM EDT
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I'm surprised at the amount of plain FT8 activity I'm hearing tonight on 160 meters; I wrote it off most of the summer. I've heard stations all the way across the US on FT8; only 2 on FT8Call, and both are in the Pacific Northwest. But, the night is young.
My 160 meter antenna is a 124' end fed with a 9:1 unun, and "random radials" wherever I can get a few on my postage stamp sized lot. The EF maxes out at ~30' and then drops down to 15' in a "crazy Z+" configuration. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 7:11:26 AM EDT
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I'm surprised at the amount of plain FT8 activity I'm hearing tonight on 160 meters; I wrote it off most of the summer. I've heard stations all the way across the US on FT8; only 2 on FT8Call, and both are in the Pacific Northwest. But, the night is young. My 160 meter antenna is a 124' end fed with a 9:1 unun, and "random radials" wherever I can get a few on my postage stamp sized lot. The EF maxes out at ~30' and then drops down to 15' in a "crazy Z+" configuration. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 10:23:37 AM EDT
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I'm back on the 20M guard freq and 14.080.
160M was a bust last night on FT8Call, but got a new state (SD) on FT8 .
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