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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
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Before you do anything with that queen cell, you need to know the status of your current queen. Did you see her? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
I saw several uncapped larva; this would mean that she laid them less than 4 days ago, right? There was plenty of capped larva, too. I think she's OK. They chewed the old wax away, to make combs, is that what you're saying? I hadn't thought of that! Population looks strong, and lots of capped larva to provide more bees. Honey is plentiful but I'm going to put one or two candy trays in each hive this winter, as it is supposed to be a cold one. There's lots of pollen and bee bread elsewhere. Except for the stuff I found and put in the dish to be photographed, the hive looks OK to me. View Quote Honestly if I were you, I'd get sticky boards and do a mite count right now. Where you are, I'm betting they might be at peak, though I don't know and am only guessing. If they are, going into your winter (which I understand can be your honey flow) you need to know it so you can take action before your bees suffer. I'm assuming you examined every frame back and front, and looked around the rest of the hive for issues?(I'm gathering there may still be some empty space in the hive to be filled yet?) |
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
I wonder what should be done? It's a little late for a virgin queen to be going out on a date, isn't it? View Quote At that point you might consider whacking that queen cell (if that's what it is. It's odd looking). I'm hoping CE or Dux will chime in. But my first priorities would be to get a mite count, and find your queen. |
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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
NM, USA
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Yep, I'm taking an entire week off of work and will get the mites treated. I know I have some, but because of the weather I never had a weekend off when I could get into the hive.
I've heard that the powdered sugar treatment is less effective than originally thought. I gave them that treatment once, need to repeat at bi-weekly intervals. Or I may go with the oxalic acid treatment later in the season, when the honey flow has ended. Right now the girls are totally ignoring any kind of syrup I put out; there have been some summer monsoon rains which replenish many of the desert flowers that they enjoy. As for actually spotting the queen: damn! I've never actually seen her in the hive, but only seen her recent offspring (capped and uncapped brood)... which seem to be plentiful. I've got new queens in both hives as of this spring. |
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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
NM, USA
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What do the experts say about powdered sugar vs. oxalic acid treatment? I'm quite capable of making a DIY oxalic acid vaporizer (for only 2 hives I can't see buying one).
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Can you do Oxalic Acid with honey supers on? I have 6 hives and put MAQS in all of them yesterday. The landing board is LOADED with dead bees today. Normal? I also seem to have some bald faced wasps that have taken an interest in the hives.
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Originally Posted By Martlet:
Can you do Oxalic Acid with honey supers on? I have 6 hives and put MAQS in all of them yesterday. The landing board is LOADED with dead bees today. Normal? I also seem to have some bald faced wasps that have taken an interest in the hives. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
What do the experts say about powdered sugar vs. oxalic acid treatment? I'm quite capable of making a DIY oxalic acid vaporizer (for only 2 hives I can't see buying one). View Quote |
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I know nothing about bee keeping and I'm sure the 109 pages would teach me much.
I wonder if I want to be a bee keeper [I'm in the process of buying rural land and for the first time will have a place to do so]. So, my questions are: How much time does it take [monthly/annually] to be a bee keeper? Can one ignore them for weeks at a time [I'll be up to the property frequently but will still live an hour+ away during the week and on some weekends]. How much effort is needed in the 'ramp up' process? I guess I'm asking what don't I know [which is everything ] and is this a time intensive endeavor? If it matters, I live in eastern MO so the bees would be north of St Louis Mo. Thanks |
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My friend called up and said he had bees in his refrigerator in his shed and wanted me to come get them. I went to take a look, moved all the junk away from the fridge. The bees are actually in a 2x2 wooden box/stand he built to keep the fridge off the ground. It's open on bottom, 2x8 lumber on the sides, plywood on top, bees are up inside there. I moved the fridge, then lifted on end of the box slightly. 50 to 60lbs. Heavy. Gotta be full of bees. I told him I needed a bigger box and would be back Wednesday. Bees are pretty calm. Do I need a vacuum to move them or can I just cut the comb out, mount it in my frames and haul them out? |
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Originally Posted By joemama74:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/166748/IMG_1562-305698.JPG My friend called up and said he had bees in his refrigerator in his shed and wanted me to come get them. I went to take a look, moved all the junk away from the fridge. The bees are actually in a 2x2 wooden box/stand he built to keep the fridge off the ground. It's open on bottom, 2x8 lumber on the sides, plywood on top, bees are up inside there. I moved the fridge, then lifted on end of the box slightly. 50 to 60lbs. Heavy. Gotta be full of bees. I told him I needed a bigger box and would be back Wednesday. Bees are pretty calm. Do I need a vacuum to move them or can I just cut the comb out, mount it in my frames and haul them out? View Quote I would leave them all they have as far as stores. Dux and CE may have other advice. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
If it were me I would find/catch the queen if you can, then do a cutout and mount in frames using rubber bands (but that's how I do it--there are other ways). I would leave them all they have as far as stores. Dux and CE may have other advice. View Quote |
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but then I read all this stuff about using a vacuum. I already have my frames and rubber bands ready to go. I thought I had a helper, but he hasn't called me back yet.
Big job, pretty easy to work with though, I just need to smoke a bit, flip the box over and start cutting. This is the 3rd wild hive that's made a home on this guy's property. I'm just going to leave a 4frame box there with foundations for the next swarm to move into. |
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Originally Posted By R3drid3r:
I know nothing about bee keeping and I'm sure the 109 pages would teach me much. I wonder if I want to be a bee keeper [I'm in the process of buying rural land and for the first time will have a place to do so]. So, my questions are: How much time does it take [monthly/annually] to be a bee keeper? Can one ignore them for weeks at a time [I'll be up to the property frequently but will still live an hour+ away during the week and on some weekends]. How much effort is needed in the 'ramp up' process? I guess I'm asking what don't I know [which is everything ] and is this a time intensive endeavor? If it matters, I live in eastern MO so the bees would be north of St Louis Mo. Thanks View Quote How, technically, is beginning bee keeps is? How time consuming is it? If you want me to go away at least do me the honor of telling me to do so. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Okay, just did an inspection of my hive. I found a few disturbing things. I scraped this off the bottom of the hive. http://oi66.tinypic.com/ddztqv.jpg The white things at the top and at 3:00 look like some larva that didn't make it. There are several tiny red specks that I think are mites. There are several dead bees there, too. This was only in one small area of the hive. The most disturbing thing was a small, lively, segmented white thing, about the diameter of a fine sewing needle. I HOPE it was a bee larva. This was the worst stuff I found. http://oi64.tinypic.com/2m5fo61.jpg Looks like a single queen cell. This late in the season, I believe it was a precautionary cell, but it IS capped... progeny waiting to hatch. http://oi65.tinypic.com/2mzayk1.jpg This looks like they're just trying to make some cross-comb. This end of the hive seems to have a lot of empty comb, ready for honey. (The brood is in the center of the hive.) http://oi68.tinypic.com/zsjts3.jpg This is just some dirty comb. This is one of the original 4 frames my beek mentor gave me a year ago. It was a whole frame back then; now it's a half frame, looks dirty, and the cells are very shallow, like the sides have eroded. Should I cut it away and use it for whatever honey wax is used for? All else looks good in both hives: there's plenty of capped and uncapped brood, and plenty of comb. Bees all look pretty active. *I smoked 'em this time, didn't get stung once. View Quote |
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I ended up with a hell of a hive for my first removal. I gotta go back tomorrow with a second box and another set of frames to fit it all. Feeling a bit overwhelmed, but I guess there's a first time for everything. |
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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
NM, USA
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R3, sorry I didn't post this earlier. For various reasons I have limited time to post these days.
This is based on my own experience; I've just completed my first year as a beekeeper. I got my first hive in June of last year and started my second hive earlier this year. These opinions are based on my own experience. YMMV. ********** Originally Posted By R3drid3r:
I know nothing about bee keeping and I'm sure the 109 pages would teach me much. I wonder if I want to be a bee keeper [I'm in the process of buying rural land and for the first time will have a place to do so]. So, my questions are: How much time does it take [monthly/annually] to be a bee keeper? I have 2 top bar hives. I typically put in less than an hour a week, per hive (I have 2 hives). Sometimes I put in more, like when i'm treating for mites. Can one ignore them for weeks at a time [I'll be up to the property frequently but will still live an hour+ away during the week and on some weekends]. I wouldn't want to leave them for more than a couple of weeks at first. You want to monitor them fairly closely for the first 2 months or so. After that they can be left alone for longer periods, BUT things can happen (mites, animal attacks, etc) that make it necessary to keep watch on them. How much effort is needed in the 'ramp up' process? Not so much. Setting up the hive is fairly straight-forward. If at all possible, work with a senior beekeeper; the old guys (and gals) are a gold mine of information. View Quote If it matters, I live in eastern MO so the bees would be north of St Louis Mo. Thanks View Quote You might also work with a local beekeeper who finds and disposes of swarms. This will get you a hive of wild bees, whose genetics haven't been monitored. You may wish to search for my posts on this thread because I've had a lot of ups & downs. Beekeeping has a lot of pitfalls; there are a lot of things that can go wrong It's sort of like raising a family. BTW you mention you are in Missouri. Do you have bears there? Believe me, you DON'T want bears. They love honey, and with their thick coats, they are virtually immune to bee stings. You should prepare a bear-resistant fence for your hives. For black bears, I think a cyclone fence might be enough. Skunks are another predator to be aware of, as they love to eat bees. |
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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
NM, USA
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Here is a link to an article by a couple of local beekeepers. This link explains a lot about top bar hives and why they are needed. It also provides a set of plans for a "standardized" top bar hive.
Standardization is needed because it greatly eases the sharing of resources. For example, if you wish to introduce new brood into your older hive, if your top bars are the same design, you simply trade a few bars between hives. Top bar hives were introduced into Africa (Kenya, iirc) to help local populations get into beekeeping. But standardization was not a top priority; TBH's have been made from a variety of shapes, including 30-gallon drums! |
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I guess the $64,000 question is.... would you do it again, knowing what you know now? View Quote We have a few bears in MO and I'll have to see if they are in the part of the state when the land is [North East corner]. My guess is they are south. I probably don't have to tell you: Bears are INCREDIBLY destructive. They are just no fun. Blacks can be timid; browns are more aggressive and if you have grizzlies, you only need a .22 LR pistol. (You shoot your companion in the kneecap and run away while he lies there screaming and attracting the bear's attention.) My posts start last year and I got my hive in June. |
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Originally Posted By R3drid3r:
Hello....?????? How, technically, is beginning bee keeps is? How time consuming is it? If you want me to go away at least do me the honor of telling me to do so. Thanks View Quote |
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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
NM, USA
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R3drid3r, this is the reason you should inspect your hives weekly.
In just a couple of weeks, my hive has gotten very sick. There are a lot of dead bees in front of the hive, the population is way down, and it seems that there are wax moths attacking the hive. I pulled a lot of sticky web-like stuff from the bottom of the hive, along with a bunch more of those worms I reported on just a few days ago. There are several brood with the tops cut off, killing the brood inside. (This is another symptom of wax moth invasion.) There's some honey being made, but not as much as I'd like to see, and I did find some capped uncapped larva, so the queen is still alive. The temperatures have been getting cool at night, down into the low 60s and upper 50s, so I think that she's slowing her egg-laying, knowing that fall is approaching. I inspected the hive and found that there's a fairly heavy varrora mite infestation. I've already treated it once with the powdered sugar treatment, which I now find isn't as effective as it was originally thought. I've been planning to treat with oxalic acid fumes when the temperatures drop and the honey flow ends. |
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Thanks for all the great advice.
Sorry you're having some challenges right now. Hope your hive rights itself [with your help of course] as soon as possible. |
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Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate.
NM, USA
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I did a little research, and found something that would have helped, but it's now illegal to use... it builds up in the wax combs, and becomes toxic.
I'm still looking for an answer. I want to smoke 'em with oxalic acid (used for varrora mites). Still looking for answers to the hive worms. |
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@R3drid3r
I'm sorry I haven't had time to answer your question and still can't give it an in-depth answer. you've gotten good advice here so far. But if I could offer anything, it would be this... Find a local bee club/association. Even if you have to drive an hour once a month to go to the meetings, it's worth it. Go to the bee schools anywhere within driving distance. They're cheap, top-notch education. You will find that you "ask ten beekeepers, get eleven answers" and that's a good thing (though it might not seem so at first.) You've got to learn all you can from everyone you can, and find your way of combining the techniques that work for you. Beekeeping is half science, half art, and by that I mean you need to learn the science so you understand what is ridiculous old wives tales, and take the advice from good beekeepers and figure out what works for you during your first few years of beekeeping. The early years are the most time-intensive. you cannot just dump bees in a box and forget about them, then come back and expect to take the honey and have them do it again next year. It is bee KEEPING, which means you are the keeper, and responsible for their welfare. That said... Believe it or not, you will come to worry about that box of bugs, and hate it when you squish one of those hardworking little insects. Beekeeping can be your meditation time, your relaxation, and your favorite hobby. It benefits the whole world when you keep bees, and hey..you get some honey, too. I hope you join us as a beekeeper. |
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Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. ~~Theodor Seuss Geisel |
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Thanks for the encouragement, insight and advice. I close on the property I'm buying in Jan, 2018 and it'll be a least a year to clean it up enough to have the margin to begin bee-keeping but i've always thought I wanted to and so it is now on my list of one of the ways to use this new treasure of land. |
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Originally Posted By R3drid3r:
^ Thanks for the encouragement, insight and advice. I close on the property I'm buying in Jan, 2018 and it'll be a least a year to clean it up enough to have the margin to begin bee-keeping but i've always thought I wanted to and so it is now on my list of one of the ways to use this new treasure of land. View Quote So...hop on the ride with us. We want to hear how it goes for you! |
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It would seem that i now have 109 pages of bee things to read...jumped in with both feet, wife found. What ended up being 4 hives on offerup at a stupid cheap price so we went and picked them up today. No bees in the hives so i have all winter to get my learn on.
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Originally Posted By ShadowsNight:
It would seem that i now have 109 pages of bee things to read...jumped in with both feet, wife found. What ended up being 4 hives on offerup at a stupid cheap price so we went and picked them up today. No bees in the hives so i have all winter to get my learn on. View Quote So you bought four boxes, basically? Were there supposed to be bees in those hives? And can you tell us more about what you bought? There is the possibility of disease in the boxes. That's why I'm asking. Depending on what you bought, you might be fine. But we would not be doing our jobs if we didn't grill you for details, and help you make sure you are good to go. |
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Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. ~~Theodor Seuss Geisel |
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Okay wait. So you bought four boxes, basically? Were there supposed to be bees in those hives? And can you tell us more about what you bought? There is the possibility of disease in the boxes. That's why I'm asking. Depending on what you bought, you might be fine. But we would not be doing our jobs if we didn't grill you for details, and help you make sure you are good to go. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By ShadowsNight:
It would seem that i now have 109 pages of bee things to read...jumped in with both feet, wife found. What ended up being 4 hives on offerup at a stupid cheap price so we went and picked them up today. No bees in the hives so i have all winter to get my learn on. So you bought four boxes, basically? Were there supposed to be bees in those hives? And can you tell us more about what you bought? There is the possibility of disease in the boxes. That's why I'm asking. Depending on what you bought, you might be fine. But we would not be doing our jobs if we didn't grill you for details, and help you make sure you are good to go. there was a base and enough supers and frames to build a third one and a brand new one the gal we bought them from had built, some kind of argentinian styled design. Also gave us two bee suits free of charge. I havemt cracked the complete hives open yet to see what the inside looks like will probably do that in a couple days if i cam get a friend of mine who is a veteran bee keeper to go through them with me. And if theres good honey left ill probably extract it. |
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... lost the last one this past winter, im guessing this last hive loss was probably due to neglect/ cold temps. The hives didnt appear to have any external insulation. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By scorpionmain:
Bees don't die of cold. They make their own heat. They die if they run out fuel (honey) to sustain their warmth. No need for insulation. Often folks trying to insulate a hive ends up killing them because it traps moisture in the hive, condenses and drips onto the cluster and it spells their demise. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By scorpionmain:
Bees don't die of cold. They make their own heat. They die if they run out fuel (honey) to sustain their warmth. No need for insulation. Often folks trying to insulate a hive ends up killing them because it traps moisture in the hive, condenses and drips onto the cluster and it spells their demise. View Quote Cold does kill bees. This is especially true in climates like mine. Up here we insulate for a multitude of reasons but we also provide adequate ventilation to prevent condensation. |
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Well had a buddy of mine who has a few years experience with bees stop by and crack open the two hives that were used.. Both hives got hit with wax moths and ants and rodents, and the other hive appears to have starved over the winter.
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there are 2 books titled "The Hive and the Honey Bee"
Authors are: Joe Grahm and J. Ambrose or: Dadant and Sons..... Which is the 'good' book? |
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Originally Posted By R3drid3r:
there are 2 books titled "The Hive and the Honey Bee" Authors are: Joe Grahm and J. Ambrose or: Dadant and Sons..... Which is the 'good' book? View Quote The more raw knowledge you have, the better equipped you will be when things get crazy. And they will. I had hives trying to swarm (and one did, despite my efforts) five weekend after installing packages on naked plastic foundation. Didn't expect that! I've isolated a hive with some sac brood, and remedied that with some pollen patties and a load of extra bees from another hive. It was a weak colony, so I helped it out. Also, watch YouTube videos. Lots of great channels. Crappy ones, too. But the good and the bad really help build a big picture of what works and what fails. The video comments are a great source to weed out bad info, too. Lots of good discussion in the comments to again build a big picture. |
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DUX, if you get a chance, would you be willing to post a picture of your candy boards? It would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted By R3drid3r:
there are 2 books titled "The Hive and the Honey Bee" Authors are: Joe Grahm and J. Ambrose or: Dadant and Sons..... Which is the 'good' book? View Quote It's expensive, which is why a lot of folks don't buy it. Buy the latest version you can get. BUT...you will use it more as a reference book to look up stuff when you have any question about anything. It's not really a book most people "read through" if that makes sense? The poster above who said "get both" is correct. Read everythign you can get your hands on. Even "Beekeeping for Dummies." Seriously. Read everything. go to meetings. Talk to people. buy a bee suit and ask if you can watch while they open their hives. They will say yes. Make an effort to be there when they're going to work their bees. (you know...get your butt up and be there even if it's five in the morning. Don't make the old beekeeper wait for you. You will get an education from him/her you cannot get from any book. etc etc That education...there is not enough money to pay for that.) Here are the "new beekeeper" rules of the road: 1-Learn everything you can. Suck it up like a sponge. Especially from old beekeepers. Appreciate them for their years beekeeping and for what they are willing to teach you. If they say use Elmer's wood glue, by golly use Elmer's wood glue on your first hives, especially if they're helping you build those hives. Don't argue with those guys. Just learn from them. 2-Don't take any of it as gospel. Not ANY of it. You will learn over time to separate the wheat from the chaff. 3-Believe the university research as much as you believe anything. But normally wait about three years (two at minimum) to apply it to your apiary, and check with your more progressive beekeeping associates to see what they've done with it before you incorporate the methods. The university apiarists do the best they can, and they have your best interests at heart, but sometimes they figure out later that something else was in play they didn't know about. Still, their work is usually solid. 4-Beekeeping in your area is not the same as beekeeping in anybody else's area. Know that, and don't fold to strong-minded beekeepers who try to sell you on methods if they are not from your climate zone/region. This also extends to your yard. No other beekeepers keep bees where you do. No microclimate is the same as another. BUT..bees are bees. So you have a teeter-totter of information to process. That's why it pays to think about things for a while before rushing in. (There are a few instances in which this is not the case. You will learn those instances.) 5-Find two or three mentors in your area. You will always have one that is more faithful and helpful for you and who will let you go on cutouts and will let you participate while he/she works hives. Value him/her, and appreciate it. Learn from him. Thank him/her profusely. But learn from all of them. Sometimes your bee mentor will be old school and will miss some important things that we've learned in recent years through science. Every beekeeper is an individual and every apiary is different from every other one. Take the science from those who study. Learn it. Absorb the art from the beekeepers who've been doing it for a long time. Use what works for you. Beekeeping is a little of both. |
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I've got a few orders for them to make up this week so I will try to get some pics. I'll post my recipe for the cakes also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DUX4LIFE:
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DUX, if you get a chance, would you be willing to post a picture of your candy boards? It would be greatly appreciated. |
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Our bee club is looking for volunteers to man a bee booth at the state fair (Dallas). My wife and I are considering doing it for a few hours. They're telling me that the majority of questions you'll get will be stuff like, "do you get stung?" and anyone with a minimum of bee knowledge can handle it. Anyone do anything like that?
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Originally Posted By joemama74:
Our bee club is looking for volunteers to man a bee booth at the state fair (Dallas). My wife and I are considering doing it for a few hours. They're telling me that the majority of questions you'll get will be stuff like, "do you get stung?" and anyone with a minimum of bee knowledge can handle it. Anyone do anything like that? View Quote |
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Robber Bees
I figured out a way to handle them, it takes a little bit of monitoring though. They are relentless and will decimate a hive in just a few days. What's worse, is th robbing generally attracts wasps who also join the fray. First I installed the Bee Smart robbing screens which work very well, but the robbers eventually find their way in. When I saw the robbing begin, I closed up the entrance door of the robbing screen. This protects the hive but also leaves worker bees outside the hive. Not to worry, just wait until evening when the robbers leave, and open it back up. Once all of the bees are back in, close it up again. In the morning when things warm up, check the closed hive. The robbers will likely have returned and will be clustered around the hive trying to get in. Grab your shop vac and vacuum up every damned one of them. You may have to do one vacuum, then come back a bit later to get the rest. There may be a few stragglers, but the hive should be able to defend itself effectively against the few remaining robbers. I have found most robbers usually come from other hives that have had too much honey harvested and/or are not being fed in the fall and need it. It pisses me off that beekeeper do this to their colonies because it not only endangers those colonies, but induces robbing behavior. It's important to check hives daily during a dearth to make sure hives aren't getting robbed out. Anyway, this worked for me. I realized I killed a bunch of bees in the process, but I'm tired of losing colonies to robbing. |
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Originally Posted By 1811guy:
Robber Bees I figured out a way to handle them, it takes a little bit of monitoring though. They are relentless and will decimate a hive in just a few days. What's worse, is th robbing generally attracts wasps who also join the fray. First I installed the Bee Smart robbing screens which work very well, but the robbers eventually find their way in. When I saw the robbing begin, I closed up the entrance door of the robbing screen. This protects the hive but also leaves worker bees outside the hive. Not to worry, just wait until evening when the robbers leave, and open it back up. Once all of the bees are back in, close it up again. In the morning when things warm up, check the closed hive. The robbers will likely have returned and will be clustered around the hive trying to get in. Grab your shop vac and vacuum up every damned one of them. You may have to do one vacuum, then come back a bit later to get the rest. There may be a few stragglers, but the hive should be able to defend itself effectively against the few remaining robbers. I have found most robbers usually come from other hives that have had too much honey harvested and/or are not being fed in the fall and need it. It pisses me off that beekeeper do this to their colonies because it not only endangers those colonies, but induces robbing behavior. It's important to check hives daily during a dearth to make sure hives aren't getting robbed out. Anyway, this worked for me. I realized I killed a bunch of bees in the process, but I'm tired of losing colonies to robbing. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By joemama74:
Our bee club is looking for volunteers to man a bee booth at the state fair (Dallas). My wife and I are considering doing it for a few hours. They're telling me that the majority of questions you'll get will be stuff like, "do you get stung?" and anyone with a minimum of bee knowledge can handle it. Anyone do anything like that? View Quote We had a demonstration hive (just a couple of frames in a thin body with glass on both sides) wtih a marked queen, and somebody asking the kids if they could find the queen. We had a candlemaking table as a fundraiser, with sheets of colored wax cut into about two inch or four inch wide strips. For 50 cents, the kids could roll a 2" candle. For a dollar, they could roll a 4" candle. We had to have a couple of people at the table (sometimes three) to handle the number of kids who lined up to make candles. (just the wax and a cotton wick). We had displays with honey in all colors, and you could sign up to sell honey at that fair, and we also took the honey of other beekeepers and set it out for sale. The interesting thing is that when the beekeeper was working the booth and talked to the people, he/she ran out of honey so fast you couldn't even see it disappear. The other beekeepers' honey had some left to haul home. For the fair attendees, it was all about talking to the beekeeper, then buying his/her honey. We had some decently involved questions, but there was always more than one of us--and it's always fine to say, "you know, I'm a new beekeeper, and I don't know the answer to that yet. But here's a brochure, and if you would like to email, I know somebody in our association would know the answer, or there are other sites listed here where you can learn more. If you'd like us to do a demonstration or talk at your school or cub scoutor girl scout meeting, we're available...." You get the idea. Knowing everything is not necessary. |
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. ~~Theodor Seuss Geisel |
I failed.
Attached File Attached File Wouldn't be right to just report my successes and not document my failures. If nothing else I learned a lot from trying to move this hive and took some honey out of it because there was just no way to get it all in the deep and medium I had. Another problem was that this was 40 minutes from my house and I had to drive out there twice to move it into a hive box and then it was two weeks before I got out there again to check on them. I had bought a 4 gallon top feeder and had already bought replacement frames and boxes (I've been trying to keep one set on hand, ready to go.) So there goes $100 I didn't need to spend right now. But they obviously just packed their shit and left. I dunno where they went. My buddy is happy they are out of his shed, but I was really hoping to have that hive. They were gentle. He says there's another existing hive further back on his property, but they are pissy. I told him I would try to move that till next Spring. In the meantime, hopefully they resettled some place else on the property. All the honey I left is gone. Attached File I need to start melting down this comb, at least for the wax, maybe save a bit for various stuff. |
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It looks like it MIGHT have wax moth working it. (I just see some web, which is why I say that.)
Check it over carefully, or freeze it to kill them or something. You may already know that you can't store that without killing them, and two weeks is enough time for them to get going. |
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. ~~Theodor Seuss Geisel |
It is wax moth. Only that one spot. It didn't take long.
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I got an email out of the blue from a guy offering grants to schools to setup a beekeeping project. I forwarded it to my wife who is a teacher and they're in contact with him now. Putting it here for anyone who is interested. Not endorsing or anything, just an FYI.
I'm looking for people who know teachers, principals or parents in the USA who might be interested in getting a honey bee hive at their school or non-profit organization centered around programming for kids.I have access to a few grants for 2018 that would allow for school's in the USA to start a sustainable beekeeping project on their campus. Time is critical though, so it's important to start the process right away because the funding opportunities are coming to a close soon in 2017. http://schoolgrant.beepods.com/honey-beehive-grant-schools-usaThanks for your help!Scott OffordBeepods |
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Originally Posted By BayEagle:
I got an email out of the blue from a guy offering grants to schools to setup a beekeeping project. I forwarded it to my wife who is a teacher and they're in contact with him now. Putting it here for anyone who is interested. Not endorsing or anything, just an FYI. I'm looking for people who know teachers, principals or parents in the USA who might be interested in getting a honey bee hive at their school or non-profit organization centered around programming for kids.I have access to a few grants for 2018 that would allow for school's in the USA to start a sustainable beekeeping project on their campus. Time is critical though, so it's important to start the process right away because the funding opportunities are coming to a close soon in 2017. http://schoolgrant.beepods.com/honey-beehive-grant-schools-usaThanks for your help!Scott OffordBeepods View Quote |
Wine is sunlight held together by water~~Galileo Galilei
Well-behaved women rarely make history~~Marilyn Monroe Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. ~~Theodor Seuss Geisel |
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