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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:20:30 PM EDT
It's crap!
I just rebuilt/cleaned a carb on my big generator. It was gummed up with orangish crap that came from stabil-real gas is not orange. the gen came with a house I bought, tested it 6 years ago, added new gas+ new cutoff valve. couple years later, worked fine. (ETA I ran/changed gas-not just flipped it on for a few minutes if you ASSumed that then you were wrong) 1.5 years ago before cane season, tested the gen -little rough but changed gas and it ran fine- thought I would use stabil because it was was in the genny vs gas cans bad idea. The two seals in the gas cap were destroyed, and the carb was gummed up. Seals could have been anything but the crap in the carb was the stabil. dont use that crap. ETA for the idiots that assumed I left the gas in there- It was changed out/ran to test it was not 6yo gas 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:28:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Stabil is crap.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:34:17 PM EDT
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I've always had good luck with seafoam.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:41:20 PM EDT
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If you have any type gasoline motors and you don't crank them but every few years you are asking for trouble no matter what fuel or preservative you use.
If you tend to crank engines at least every 4 to 5 months things will always be better for you and your engine. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:42:15 PM EDT
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I've been using stabil for years with no issue.
I never let any fuel get over a year old, usually less, since I tend to go through more than I can store each summer. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:43:54 PM EDT
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You let gas sit for 4 years, and are complaining that the gas additive did not do its job?
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:44:29 PM EDT
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sounds like you have a rust problem
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:53:04 PM EDT
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If you have any type gasoline motors and you don't crank them but every few years you are asking for trouble no matter what fuel or preservative you use. If you tend to crank engines at least every 4 to 5 months things will always be better for you and your engine. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:01:33 PM EDT
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:04:52 PM EDT
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Buy ethanol free gas.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:05:26 PM EDT
[#10]
I was always taught to shut the fuel line, and run it dry before storing it.
Sta-Bil is for like a 6 month storage, not a 6 year storage. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:05:54 PM EDT
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that's a long time, I never had trouble with it.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:16:19 PM EDT
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Stabil sucks. Pri-G is where it is at. Sealed well Pri-G will keep gas for years.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:20:43 PM EDT
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Stabil sucks. Pri-G is where it is at. Sealed well Pri-G will keep gas for years. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:21:54 PM EDT
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L-O-L!
They're all about the same... Mostly Stoddard Solvent, mineral spirits, petroleum distillates, etc. Same things, basically. Plus tiny amounts of additives that likely, aren't enough to have any measurable effect. Read the [little] info the mfgr's provide in their MSDS sheets. So many are suckered with this stuff. 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:24:12 PM EDT
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:24:14 PM EDT
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Stabil sucks. Pri-G is where it is at. Sealed well Pri-G will keep gas for years. 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:26:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Huh, I shut the fuel valve and run the carb dry.
Have used Stabil for years without any kind of event. This reads more like looking to blame someone else for being a bone head. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:28:07 PM EDT
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What about anti-ethanol additives? My AO is basically all 10% crap unless you get racing gas, avgas, or canned premix at ridiculous prices.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:13:56 PM EDT
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anytime you have a small volume of vented gas that sits for a long time, like in a carb, it doesn't matter what you put in it, it will evaporate and gum up.
Sta-bil works great for large volumes such as tanks, etc. Drain your carbs. Run the engines every three months. Non-ethanol fuel helps a lot as well. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:18:20 PM EDT
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I use Stabil and Seafoam in no ethanol 87 octane gas. 5 of my ten cans of gas have Lucas Oil brand fuel system cleaner. I have zero issues with gas storage. After one year I pour the old gas into our daily drivers and burn it.
Op is wrong on this subject. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:20:59 PM EDT
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I don't think the Stabil was your issue, it was the 6 years.
I have used plenty of gas that was stored in jerry cans with Stabil over 5 years and it was fine. No idea if the Stabil was is what made it fine or not but it worked fine. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:26:58 PM EDT
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I use the marine version of Stabil (blue not red) since it has more of what supposedly keeps the gas stable. Still, I try my best to run the generators dry to keep from gumming the carbs. Some of the el-cheapo generators (read Harbor Freight miniature genny) will suck gas past the fuel shutoff valve and simply not die. They are also 2-stroke which has its own set of issues.
I try my best to not keep gas more than a year. Usually, I'm rotating gas in my 5gal cans. When I get near the 1yr boundary, I dump it into my truck and go refill the can with fresh gas. If you have a dozen cans and rotate one per month, you'll have "fresh" gas that is no more than 1yr old, and half less than 6months old. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:33:06 PM EDT
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Startron is teh shit for fuel. Best stuff I have ever found.
Ethanol gas is hygroscopic, a simple gasoline stabilizer isn't going to prevent water from being attracted to the ethanol, emulsifying and causing corrosion problems. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:35:26 PM EDT
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Startron is teh shit for fuel. Best stuff I have ever found. Ethanol gas is hygroscopic, a simple gasoline stabilizer isn't going to prevent water from being attracted to the ethanol, emulsifying and causing corrosion problems. MSDS CHEMICAL NAME EU CLASSIFICATION FOR COMPONENTS Proprietary Organic Compounds < 0.5% Solvent Naphtha (Petroleum), Heavy Aliphatic 64742-96-7 > 95% Nothing but mineral spirits, like all the rest! lol |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:38:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Stabil is crap.
Put it in my backup F350 and after 1 year it dissolved the lining in the tank and gunked up the entire fuel system. I have already spent $1500 trying to get it going but it looks like a write-off. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:42:59 PM EDT
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Put it in my backup F350 and after 1 year it dissolved the lining in the tank and gunked up the entire fuel system. I have already spent $1500 trying to get it going but it looks like a write-off. Read the MSDS SHEETS. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:53:13 PM EDT
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me. I also use it with my 4 stroke lawn equipment and with 2 stroke oil in saws, compactors any anything else 2 stroke. The only drawback is that since 100LL is blue, you have to be sure you added the oil, because you can't tell by looking. And yes, just go to your local airpark with an empty 5 gal jug. Most airports have self-service pumps that take credit cards. They're different from car gas pumps. If you ask at the desk (usually the FBO), there's a good chance someone friendly will show you what to do. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:55:41 PM EDT
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:03:06 PM EDT
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:59:29 PM EDT
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I've been very pleased with PRI-G. I routinely use two year old gas in my vehicle and have never noticed an issue.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:27:14 PM EDT
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On a similar note home depot sells a product called "mechanic in a bottle". They claim it will fix
non-running lawn equipment with fuel-related problems. You pour out the bad fuel and put a couple ounces of this in the tank. Then you prime and pull the starter cord and leave it a few hours to let it dissolve the varnish. Then, Top it off with fuel and crank it. I tried it on an edger that wouldn't idle. It actually solved the problem! Snake oil or not, it kept me from having to pull the carb and clean it. ETA: It supposedly has a five year shelf life. If I have another favorable experience with it I might stock a little. Every time a storm comes through you'd be a hero with the neighbors who can't get their gennys or chain saws to crank |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:51:34 PM EDT
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Anytime I have outside chores to do that require electric power tools I try to use my generator. If I just want to cycle it I'll hook my compressor to it with a small leak in the bleed off valve. I'll let it run about 20 minutes with the compressor kicking on and off to work the armature as well as the engine. Winco 5k with brushless head.
Edit; stabil is crap. Trashed my troybilt with that garbage. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:15:10 PM EDT
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Huh, I shut the fuel valve and run the carb dry. Have used Stabil for years without any kind of event. This reads more like looking to blame someone else for being a bone head.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:18:48 PM EDT
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Pri-g in non ethanol premium or av gas for anything carbureted.
No carb problems. Use preferably from day one. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:36:34 PM EDT
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I've been using stabil for years with no issue. I never let any fuel get over a year old, usually less, since I tend to go through more than I can store each summer. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 1:20:49 AM EDT
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I have 2 cans of untreated gas that is 2 years old. Any ideas?
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Posted: 9/6/2017 1:35:01 AM EDT
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me. I haven't had a problem since I started using this stuff. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 1:35:47 AM EDT
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You let gas sit for 4 years, and are complaining that the gas additive did not do its job? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 1:38:18 AM EDT
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I have 2 cans of untreated gas that is 2 years old. Any ideas? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 1:52:48 AM EDT
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Hey buddy I hope you are well. These got caught up in the divorce move and there was nothing to rotate them through.
They are in those older red 5 gl cans with that white cap. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 3:36:19 AM EDT
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I have 2 cans of untreated gas that is 2 years old. Any ideas? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 5:21:36 AM EDT
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Stabil sucks. Pri-G is where it is at. Sealed well Pri-G will keep gas for years. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:28:55 AM EDT
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I have 2 cans of untreated gas that is 2 years old. Any ideas? eta: Unless it was in sealed cans, then it may be gtg. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:39:47 AM EDT
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And yes, just go to your local airpark with an empty 5 gal jug. Most airports have self-service pumps that take credit cards. They're different from car gas pumps. If you ask at the desk (usually the FBO), there's a good chance someone friendly will show you what to do. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:01:33 AM EDT
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You let gas sit for 4 years, and are complaining that the gas additive did not do its job? did you even read? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:02:08 AM EDT
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sounds like you have a rust problem rust does not form in a carb on aluminum |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:02:32 AM EDT
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Buy ethanol free gas. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:04:25 AM EDT
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This reads more like looking to blame someone else for being a bone head. It amazing how many will cover for their panaceas MUH silver colloid |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:05:15 AM EDT
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I don't think the Stabil was your issue, it was the 6 years.
it was not in there for 6 years jesus where is this coming from did any of you read or all this stupid? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:15:20 AM EDT
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can one just go to the local airpark and fill-er-up? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just run 100LL in all of my engines where there are no catalytic converters so that I don't have to worry about it. It costs a little more but it is worth it to me. |
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