Article ......................

"If we were imagining how a terrible pandemic would unfold, this could certainly serve as an excellent script."

"Hong Kong authorities, smarting from years of outbreaks spread from mainland China including H5N1 (1997) and SARS (2003), have put the territory on health alert. "We will heighten our vigilance and continue to maintain stringent port health measures in connection with this development," the Centre for Health Protection in Hong Kong stated in a press release on Monday"

Timeline of Events

Feb. 19     First male patient, 87, became ill with H7N9 (Medical News Today).

Feb. 27     Second male patient, 27, became ill with H7N9 (Medical News Today).

March 4      First male patient dies (Medical News Today).

March 9      First female patient, 35, from Anhui province became ill with H7N9 (Telegraph).

March 10    Initial report of over 900 dead pigs in Shanghai's Huangpu River as of Saturday, March 9 (China Daily)
                 Second male patient dies (Medical News Today).

March 11     Count of dead pigs in rivers near Shanghai reaches nearly 3,000 (Business Insider).
                   Laboratory tests find porcine circovirus (PCV) in one water sample from Huangpu River (Xinhua News)

March 13      Officials say the number of pig carcasses in Huangpu River has risen to 6,000 (BBC).

March 14       Workers continued to haul dead hogs from a river in the Shanghai suburbs Thursday, where the pig body count now exceeds 6,600, according to the municipal government (USA Today).
                     Farm in Zhejiang province confesses to dumping pig carcasses into river (Bloomberg)

March 20      The number of dead pigs discovered in Chinese rivers around Shanghai has risen to almost 14,000 (BBC).

March 22      50 pigs wash up onshore in Changsha, Hunan province; ~1,000 dead ducks are also discovered (NTDon China via YouTube)
                    Number of dead pigs found in Shanghai river rises to 16,000 (Independent)

March 25      China pulls 1,000 dead ducks from Sichuan river (BBC).
                    Government officials say that 1,000+ rotten duck carcasses pose no threat to human and livestock along river banks (Xinhua News).
                    Illegal Zhejiang pork found in food chain (South China Morning Post).

March 26      Dumping of thousands of dead pigs linked with Chinese crackdown on pork black market (Business Insider)
                   More than 1,000 dead ducks, in 60 woven plastic bags, are found in Sichuan province (China Daily, Time).

March 31      The government's National Health and Family Planning Commission said over the weekend that two men, aged 87 and 27, died in Shanghai in early March after being infected with H7N9 avian influenza (AFP).

April 1      Widespread reporting about two human deaths and one severe casualty of a "lesser-known bird flu virus" (USA Today, AP).
               Dr. Michael O'Leary, World Health Organization, says that there is no evidence to show that a type of bird flu which has killed two Chinese men can be transmitted between people (Reuters).

April 2      Shanghai Animal Disease Prevention and Control Center tested 34 samples of pig carcasses pulled from Huangpu River and found no flu viruses (Shanghai Daily).

Peak bacon and deaded in one fail swoop.

If this is for real pig/bird to human flu, by the time the Chinese tell us about it...it's too late.

WHO says they don't know but they need to be careful.  Read the article for details.

If it is, this needs to be the soundtrack to the end of humanity:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_uzWDFdUs

Friday April 5th:  "Alarm Grows in China as Flu’s Death Toll Rises to 6"

The New York Times .......

We wont know until it no longer matters

Why does it ALWAYS start in China?

If this mutates and jump human to human...we are all pretty much screwed. Scary shit when you think about it.

Have you seen how filthy common folks over there are? I've seen a guy taking a shit with a chicken on his lap. In a bathroom on a train.

 

Quote of the day.  



 

great.... like I need something else to worry about....

No words.....

 

There's evidence that the last time there was a bird flu scare it went fully transmissible in China. More than one time. The Chinese authorities dealt with it by wiping out the villages.

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Thanks.

Feral, with your avitar, theres a joke in there....

One infected manufacturer that ships goods to America, could mess some stuff up quickly.

Before the tinfoil hat crowd starts crowing...

... However, it wouldn't surprise me  " The Chinese authorities dealt with it by wiping out the villages."  

umm... let's see, http://www.massviolence.org/Chronology-of-Mass-Killings-during-the-Chinese-Cultural

"the total number of victims of the Cultural Revolution and especially the death toll of mass killings still remain a mystery both in China and overseas. For the Chinese communist government, it is a highly classified “state secret,” although they do maintain statistics for the so-called “abnormal death” numbers all over China."

They do have a long and time honored history of killings in the name of the betterment of society, and keeping it secret.  There's precedent.

Other weird stuff... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/22/dead-pigs-chinese-river-rises

"The number of dead pigs recovered in the last two weeks from rivers that supply water to Shanghai has risen to more than 16,000.

The government in China's financial hub said 10,570 carcasses had been pulled from its Huangpu river. That is in addition to 5,528 pigs plucked from upstream tributaries in the Jiaxing area of Zhejiang province.

Authorities give daily updates, telling the public that tests show Shanghai's water is safe, but no official has given any full explanation about the massive dumping of pig carcasses.  Hog farmers have told state media that the dumping of carcasses is rising because police have started cracking down on the illicit sale of pork products made from dead, diseased pigs"

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??     Got a dead diseased pig?  Just dump it in your drinking water supply.

If this is their idea of sanitary disposal,  god knows what else is going on.

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It's fairly common to dispose on trash, garbage, dead pigs, dead people, old cars, industrial waste, etc by throwing it in the river.  It's only in about the last 100 years or so that such practice became incrementally unacceptable in the good old USA.

but the real question is was he eating anything at the time.......
zombies will be here shortly ...



 

That word picture gives new meaning to 'laying an egg.'

Day 46  

This counts as a tag.

Zombies are ALREADY HERE Silly!

Not the Brain 'Eating' kind...

[they will be here in not too many years but with a bullet kind of twist... Being recruited and stockpiled now]

The kind of Zombies that are already here are the Brain Dead kind who want to EAT YOUR WALLET and any FREEDOMS you have left.

The Brain Dead kind that sit in front of the flat screens watching SHIT, attend libtard institutions, take legal and non legal psychotropic drugs in grade school and beyond and fry their brains, suck up the nonsense of Leftist media [that's mostly all that's out there], believe you didn't Make That, Obamma did ---and they are ENTITLED to a PIECE of it, live a life of Hollywood movie, soap opera and video game fantasy, whine when they can't have what you have left, and expect YOU to BAIL Them out.

These are the Modern Day Zombies and they are EVERYWHERE, the country is FULL of them, ready to vote to suck the remaining life outta YOU!

Or jack you up the first CHANCE they get!



ZOOMBIES-   They're HERE and you prolly have lots'o them in your IMMEDIATE fambly! Odds are you're ONE of them!

Some of the most advanced ZOOMBIES are actually equipped with Electronic Benefit Cards to better able to F U.




Look around ---Zoombies RULE!!!!! They're the NEW Free Shit MAJORITY!

I've had 14 or so updates to the alert on my phone since it started....

All of 6 people have died of the flu in all of China.

Considering it is China, that ought to be telling you how low the risk is at present.

So out of the six reported that made it to the outside world, how many cases do you think exist that:

a) Haven't been made known to the authorities in China.

b) Have been censored by the state media.


It wasn't that long ago (within the last decade) that China reported a dozen cases and then eventually admitted it was over 300.

6 out of 14 reported cases have been fatal.  As far as the flu goes, that has an incredibly high mortality rate.  We won't know how many cases there actually are because of the liklihood of poor reporting inside China.  If those numbers are accurate, and this H7N* virus begins to mutate and becomes communicable, this could be anything but low risk.





 

The water in Shanghai isn't safe to drink with or without dead pigs.



 

I'm a bit confused. Is this the avian flu they have been talking about?

H7 indicates Avian Flu strain that humans should not get, but it obviously mutated and now humans get it.  The question is, does it also transfer from human to human which increases the risk exponentially!

All flu originates in bird shit. The flu we call seasonal flu originally came from birds and originally caused a pandemic.

The current H7N9 causing human sickness and death in china is suspected to be transmitting H2H.

Only time will tell how efficient it becomes.

Tagscribed as this needs yo be monitored. China will not let real data out until its too late. Any flu bugs want help keep this thread active?

I heard on NPR today that the transmission has only been bird to human, no reported human to human jump yet.

This is the part that makes this so deadly.  Humans have at least some level of immunity to the H5N* varient of the flu.  From what I have read, we do not have any level of natural immunity to the H7N* varients because at least that we know of, it previously has never made that leap from birds to humans.  If this strain mutates in a way that makes H2H transmission possible, we won't know how deadly it is until the numbers start coming in.

 

Three new cases bring China's H7N9 tally to 21, with 6 dead ........................ Article

Latest reports are that it already has the sequences  for H2H . If it gets the third one it will be catastrophic.

'Splain, please?  "Sequences for H2H"?



 

Very complex viral genetic sequences that can only be read with a powerful magnifying glass and other tricks recently developed.

The sequences are unique to each virus and depending on positions where proteins and other stuff attach and how many, etc, determine the nature of the virus. The sequences are similar to human genome sequences that have some variance and uniquely match, say, one and only one person.

Most any virus is constantly 'reassorting' or 'recombining' or whatever, depending on what school you were trained at, and the fear is H7N9 [or any other virus] may pick up the genetic components that allow it to be easily spread [H2H, human to human] among humans -or Brain Dead Zombies in these 'modern' times, --with high case fatality rates.

There are countless variations of possibilities.

The presence of D225G and Q226L represents human adaption of a lethal bird flu virus that has a greater pandemic potential than H5N1. Receptor binding domain studies highlighted the role of these two changes in the shift of receptor targets in the upper respiratory tract of birds to those of mammals.

This potention is enhanced by the presence of PB2 E627K., which is linked to the ability to grow at 33 C, which is the body temperature of mammals, much lower than that of birds.

http://www.recombinomics.com/whats_new.html

I understand "catastrophic", but what is Mach's reference to a "third one"?



Also, threat assessment?  For general CONUS population vs. "I'm pretty severely immune-compromised, and I'm supposed to be in Shanghai next month.  Should I find a reason not to go?"
 

Wut?



ETA:  The fact that anyone is even talking about this means it's either a real threat or a diversion.  Please help us figure out which one it really might be...





 

China bird flu not spreading between people, says WHO
Monday, 08 April, 2013, 11:43am

There is no proof that the H7N9 bird flu virus is being transmitted between people in China, the World Health Organisation said on Monday, despite several members of a family falling ill in Shanghai.

China announced just over a week ago that the virus had been found in humans for the first time, and the number of confirmed cases has since risen to 21, with six deaths.

“Although we do not know the source of infection, at this time there is no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission,” Michael O’Leary, the WHO’s representative in China, told a news conference in Beijing.

Concerns over human transmission arose after the two sons of an elderly man in Shanghai, one of the earliest deaths from H7N9, developed respiratory illness, one of them dying, but the virus was later ruled out by Chinese authorities.

The WHO confirmed that government finding on Monday.

“The family cluster raises the possibility of human-to-human transmission, but two of the cases in that cluster have not been laboratory confirmed,” O’Leary said.

“There is no other evidence pointing towards sustained transmission among people,” he added.

Four of the deaths have been in China’s commercial hub Shanghai, with the other two in the neighbouring province of Zhejiang.

O’Leary praised China’s transparency on the outbreak, following criticism the announcement of the initial deaths was too slow.

“We are very satisfied and pleased with the level of information shared and we believe we have been kept fully updated on the situation,” he told the news conference.

The first deaths from the virus were not reported by authorities until three weeks after they occurred. Chinese officials said the delay in announcing the results was because it took time to determine the cause of the illness.

China faced condemnation a decade ago on accusations it covered up the 2003 outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (Sars), which eventually killed about 800 people globally.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1209831/china-bird-flu-not-spreading-between-people-says-who

PLA officer calls H7N9 virus a US 'bio-psychological weapon'

A senior military official has caused an outrage among netizens for calling the current avian flu outbreak in mainland China an American conspiracy and belittling a string of deaths from the virus.  

“The national leadership should not pay too much attention to it,” Dai Xu, senior colonel with the People’s Liberation Army’s air force and lecturer at the National Defence University, wrote on his Sina Weibo micro-blog on Saturday. “Or else, it’ll be like in 2003 with Sars!”

“At that time, America was fighting in Iraq and feared that China would take advantage of the opportunity to take other actions,” he wrote. “This is why they used bio-psychological weapons against China. All of China fell into turmoil and that was exactly what the US wanted. Now, the US is using the same old trick. China should have learned its lesson and should calmly deal with the problem.”

Dai’s post has been shared some 30,000 times over the weekend. While some netizens supported his remarks, most comments were critical. He had deleted an earlier almost identical post that ended with a sentence that caused even more outrage. “Only a few will die, but that’s not even a one-thousandth of those who die in car crashes in China.”

Said one comment: “In that case, the invention of cars by the US and Germany must have been an ever greater conspiracy,” Kai-fu Lee, the former head of Google China and one of the most influential voices on Weibo, quipped in a reply.

“I’m confident that the vast majority of soliders would not endorse this,” Luo Changping, deputy editor of the financial magazine Caijing, wrote in a reaction on Saturday that has since been shared some 63,000 times. “Mr Dai must step down and apologise to the families of the diseased.”

Dai was unapologetic in his reply on Sunday. “It is common knowledge that a group of people in China have been injected with mental toxin by the US,” he wrote.

“Now, a group of fake American devils are attacking me,” he wrote in another post. “I will not retreat even half a step.” The senior colonel gained some 40,000 new followers on Weibo in the course of the dispute. He was not available for immediate comment.

Netizens compared Dai’s comment with one made by the outspoken nationalist Peking University Professor Kong Qingdong in 2011. The 73rd-generation descendant of Confucius and co-initiator of the Confucius Peace Prize, an alternative to the Nobel Peace Prize, said the US was waging a “climate war’ with China, blaming the country for Beijing’s smog.
http://www.scmp.com/comment/blogs/article/1209796/pla-officer-calls-h7n9-virus-us-bio-psychological-weapon

There are key components of the virus structure and they cause the virus to 'behave' differently.

In the present instance of this H7N9 baby, there is a location that can be filled with some sort of 'genetic particle' that will allow it to become VERY contagious.

Two locations that have been found to be required for efficient H2H transmission have been filled already, folks are holding their breath if the 3rd location gets 'filled' with the one that will make it into a Pandemic Viral Soup.

IMO, the chances of this are slim to none.

That said, I'm not turning my back on it.



Don't sweat it until you see med professionals becoming infected with H7N9 at an alarming rate. That's the canary in the coal mine indicator.

Not cancelling my flights...  yet.

So....  1.2 BILLION, divided by SIX...... Thats less than one percent , right?
Probably more Commies get hit by a bus every day.

Diversion.

According to Neiman this morning, the E627K sequence is now in the H7N9 samples. That is the 3rd human adaptation sequence.

Unless I am misunderstanding something. It looks like the "catastrophic" adaptation has happened. Can anybody confirm this?

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/04081301/H7N9_E627K_Pandemic.html

bump

I haven't seen anything reported other than from Recombinomics.