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I've finally dipped my wick in this area finally at home. We deploy Axis cameras all over the enterprise at work and terminate those on the Genetec solution. Currently, I'm playing with a ring doorbell. I've been thinking about some hikvision cameras for the house over my internal POE network.
Any thoughts on the doorbell from ring? I got that as a gift. |
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Originally Posted By sterling18:
I've finally dipped my wick in this area finally at home. We deploy Axis cameras all over the enterprise at work and terminate those on the Genetec solution. Currently, I'm playing with a ring doorbell. I've been thinking about some hikvision cameras for the house over my internal POE network. Any thoughts on the doorbell from ring? I got that as a gift. View Quote |
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Finally got around to ordering yesterday.
got this with a 4 GB HD: http://www.nellyssecurity.com/nsn-608-8p-8-channel-poe-plug-n-play-hi-def-nvr-recorder-760.html one of these:http://www.nellyssecurity.com/nsc-2x4-dm-4mp-wdr-exir-turret-ip-security-camera-2-8mm.html one of these: http://www.nellyssecurity.com/nsc-2x4-bt-4mp-exir-ip-bullet-security-camera-4mm.html I'll use those to figure out which of my cam locations work with 2.8 or 4mm, and which form factor (dome or bullet) works better |
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this Camera and the 2mp version blow the 5 mp cameras away, and since they can be set to patrol they have the ability to cover more ground than 3 fixed cameras
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Originally Posted By coldair:
this Camera and the 2mp version blow the 5 mp cameras away, and since they can be set to patrol they have the ability to cover more ground than 3 fixed cameras View Quote |
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Got the shipment
This bullet cam is BIG |
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Yep
External illuminators are where it's at. |
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woo hoo
got the first camera bench tested and then physically installed working great on the NVR, but can't figure out the whole iVMS thing. |
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https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/06/internet-cameras-expose-private-video-feeds-and-remote-controls/
Internet cameras have hard-coded password that can’t be changed Cameras with multiple brand names are wide open to remote hacking. Security cameras manufactured by China-based Foscam are vulnerable to remote take-over hacks that allow attackers to view video feeds, download stored files, and possibly compromise other devices connected to a local network. That's according to a 12-page report released Wednesday by security firm F-Secure. Besides the Foscam and Opticom brands, F-Secure said it was aware of 14 other brands used to market Foscam-made devices. They include: Chacon Thomson 7links Opticam Netis Turbox Novodio Ambientcam Nexxt Technaxx Qcam Ivue Ebode Sab People who running one of these devices should strongly consider running them inside a dedicated local network that doesn't have access to other connected devices and can't be reached from the outside Internet. View Quote |
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Although this thread is full of great info it still makes my head spin when I try to figure out a good system for myself. I found the following on amazon
and am looking for opinions on it. It will be for inside and outside use in a industrial park building. Inside I can leave some lights on. Outside I am hoping to find a way to put them towards the top of the building. Outside looking at a height of about 15 to 20 feet. Do have some lighting outside. Outside viewing distance I estimate at 50 to 80 feet. I figure I will have to add remote operated domes outside. Also plan on running cat5e cable for everything. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C6KUKMY?tag=vglnk-c102-20 Thanks for the help- Wrencher |
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So I got my setup working now after quite a bit of struggling to find the info needed to configure the DDNS, a broken wifi router that wouldnt let me port forward, and settings for everything. I am using the new HIK-CONNECT DDNS, it does work and was fairly easy to setup but it seems kinda slow, is there a better DDNS thats free or cheap?
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I need some help with one of my IP cameras.
I was finally able to log into it but as soon as I log in, I receive an authentication error and the camera kicks me out. I found an IP conflict with my 3rd (new) camera. Both end in .108. I got my camera to work but I had to unplug the third camera. Off to do some configuration...... |
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Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
Darkness with the EXIP cams I posted earlier: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26797/Screen-Shot-2017-06-11-at-9-228769.JPG View Quote It's funny to me that you couldn't touch performance like that for <$1000 just a few years ago. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
That doesn't suck. It's funny to me that you couldn't touch performance like that for <$1000 just a few years ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
Darkness with the EXIP cams I posted earlier: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26797/Screen-Shot-2017-06-11-at-9-228769.JPG It's funny to me that you couldn't touch performance like that for <$1000 just a few years ago. |
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Hey guys, I am a total noob when it comes to a security camera system. Just this morning my wife called and said that someone had been in her car last night. She usually parks in the garage and rarely locks her car when its in there. She parked outside and forgot to lock it, nothing was stolen.
So, I am looking for a camera system that will fit my needs for around 500-600 bucks (If possible). I would like it to take pics when motion is detected, be able to view my camera from anywhere, record 24/7? (not sure about this), have the ability to expand (add cameras in the house down the road), and I would assume wired by Cat5/6 would be best. I can answer any specific questions, I just dont know near enough to feel comfortable just ordering something off amazon and I am hoping that yall could help me out! I will try to read more of this thread, but in the meantime hopefully yall can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for yalls time and help! Eta: Looks like hikvision cameras may be a good route. Right now I just want to get a couple camera up for the front of the house. Dome Camera Bullet Camera |
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You could simply add a microSD card to the camera, and record internally. You can then access the recordings over the network.
Might save you the trouble of building a dedicated DVR computer. I have a neighbor who did it that way. |
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My dad asked me to pick out some hardware to get his house set up for cameras. His design objectives are all exterior sides covered with wired cameras and the potential to add a couple cameras inside that will likely need to be wireless (ugh). I talked him into having some cat5 pulled for the outdoor cameras, they have achievable routs through the attics and garage. Once that is in I can help him do the configuration. I have always been a build it yourself guy but because I won't be around to tinker this one until it works I decided to just go with a ready to go NVR. I have had outstanding performance from Hikvision gear at my home so that's likely where I am leaning.
NVR: Nelly's 16ch PoE NVR Outdoor cameras: H-series 4mp camera I haven't really decided on a wifi camera. I've never used one with a dedicated NVR. I assume that the NVR sets up its own camera subnet so either the NVR will need to act as a wifi access point for the wireless cameras or they will need to come through the main access point and be able to route to the NVR. How is this typically done with wireless cameras? I give him credit for being willing to have the wired outside where the runs are pretty easy into the attic but hes not willing to drill and cut into his ceilings and walls to run cable. |
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
I haven't really decided on a wifi camera. I've never used one with a dedicated NVR. I assume that the NVR sets up its own camera subnet so either the NVR will need to act as a wifi access point for the wireless cameras or they will need to come through the main access point and be able to route to the NVR. How is this typically done with wireless cameras? I give him credit for being willing to have the wired outside where the runs are pretty easy into the attic but hes not willing to drill and cut into his ceilings and walls to run cable. View Quote Just make sure the wifi cameras are on the same subnet as the DVR's "WAN" port. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
You have to add them manually... but the DVR will do it. Those DVRs will take camera streams from the "WAN" side of the network, in addition to streams taken from the internal LAN it has on its built-in switch. It takes up a "channel" on the DVR, and you will need the IP address of the camera on the local LAN, and the password. Just make sure the wifi cameras are on the same subnet as the DVR's "WAN" port. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
I suspected as much so thanks for the confirmation. Are the Hickvision NVRs brand agnostic? Or will they take an H264 feed from any camera? My go to indoor camera is the Foscam C2. I have been amazed how well they work for a wireless camera. Dead nuts reliable for $50. View Quote |
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So here's how to set up external sensors and Hikvision cameras. (taken from updated thread here)
By now, many posters are familiar with the Hikvision brand of cameras. Hikvision came on the market a few years ago, and have really pushed a new standard in the quality-for-$$$ category. The price-points of Hikvision (and their competitor Dahua) have become so affordable that many members have installed (or are considering installing) these systems. With that in mind, let's discuss how to make your Hikvision system smarter... with sensors. Alarm sensors have been used for decades in the construction of regular home burglar alarm systems, and most are electrically quite simple. They are generally either NO or NC (Normally-Open, or Normally-Closed) switches, and the alarm panel/brain monitors the state of these switches by running a very low-voltage/amperage current through the sensor. If a NC (Normally Closed) sensor (like a reed switch on a door or window) experiences a change-of-state (eg. the window/door opens, moving the magnet away from the reed switch, and the connection opens, breaking continuity) the current stops flowing, and the panel/brain detects it. The same can happen when current suddenly flows through a NO (Normally-Open) sensor, when it was an open connection before. Here is a link that explains it Simple mechanical sensors like reed switches are as dead-nuts reliable as a sensor can get (as long as the magnet retains its magnetism)... but their application is limited to a defined opening/door/window/gate. Fortunately, there are other sensors that can cover a much wider area, with reliability that is nearly as good. This brings us to PIR and Microwave sensors. These are the "motion detectors" that everybody has probably seen a thousand times in standard household burglar alarms. They are usually mounted in a corner, and cover a room in the house. Fortunately, that's not nearly the limit of their utility. They can also be mounted outdoors, and cover perimeter areas on your property, or the yard around your house. These are the sensor technology behind some "driveway" alarms, and many game-cameras. Here are several examples. Going from Left-to-Right, we have an Optex LX-402, a Crow SRX-360, and a Crow Double-Dual (DD): All are outdoor-rated, but the Optex only uses a single PIR sensor. The SRX has dual-sensors (PIR and Microwave). The DD has dual PIRs. Here are close-ups of the Optex, the SRX, and the DD, respectively: Note what you see on all of the close-ups. All three of these sensors have 12v DC input (note the +/- terminals; you can't read them on the Optex, but it's the left-most terminals), and NO/NC connections, usually next to a "C" or "COM" connection, which would be the ground (the alarm connections are marked "relay" on the SRX, and are a NC zone). The NC/NO/Relay connections are the ones that go to the camera. It's two wires; you can't get it wrong. So each sensor requires four wires: two for power, and two for signal to the camera or alarm panel. Standard alarm wire has four conductors for this reason (circled in red): We are going to use the Optex as our example sensor. The Hikvision "Alarm" connector looks like another connector on the camera (the "Audio" connector), and you have to read the imprint on the plastic to determine which one you have. Going from right-to-left in the below picture, the Alarm connector has four connections: I, GND, O, and another GND. For the input from your sensor, you need to connect wires to "I" (for input) and the immediately-adjacent "GND." You can see they are standard screw-down terminals (end-on view:) When the PIR is hooked up to both power, and the camera, it looks like this. 12v DC hooked up to the PIR, and the two wires going from PIR to camera. After that, it's all software config in the camera. Referring to the pic below, on the camera side, the Green wire is attached to GND terminal, and the Yellow wire is connected to "I" (or input) terminal. On the PIR side, the GND terminal on the PIR is directly between the NO, and the NC terminals. So the connectors on the PIR side, going from left-to-right are (+) (-)... skip to next connector block... NC, GND, NO. So here's the software configuration within the Hikvision cameras (latest Firmware version, as of this post). Start at the "Network" configuration section, and make sure you click "Advanced Settings" in the left-most column. The "Basic" section doesn't allow email configuration, but the "Advanced Settings" section will give you the option of configuring an email server. Click the Email tab at the top of the page (red arrow): Once you're in "Advanced Settings" and "Email," you need to enter the settings for whatever email server or email relay service you're using. If you have a company email server, you can enter the IP address, sender, etc. Sender: just a name Sender's address: This is an email address... [email protected], or whatever. SMTP server: This is the IP address of your mailserver. It can be local, or remote. SMTP port: Usually 25, but can be on other ports, depending on your mail service. You can use anything you like... but as an example, the instructions for relaying through Google's G-suite are here. There are others... googling for "SMTP relay service" will give you plenty of options (usually 5-10 bucks a month or so), or you can set up your own mailserver if you have the geek chops to make it work. Click "attached image" to get an image in your email, and I usually pick 5s as the time interval. That gives me about three images per-email. Authentication: enter whatever your service requires. I use IP authentication, so I don't have to worry about this section. As long as the email comes from a certain IP, the service will forward it. Don't forget to click the "Test" button (red arrow) to make sure it all works before moving on. That's the hard part... the rest is easy. Here's the "Basic Event" section. Note the red-dotted fields/buttons. There is only one alarm input, so the A<--1 is checked by default. The alarm type is NO (Normally-Open), so we have that selected. You could just as easily use a NC sensor, and simply change this field to NC The "Arming Schedule" tab in the middle of the page is highlighted, enabling you to determine exactly when the camera will pay attention to the sensor (the sensor is always active... but unless it's during one of the blue time-periods, the camera will ignore the input). Clicking on a day will allow you enter time intervals, and then repeat them on various days, or set each day with a custom time schedule. This person has kids, so this camera alarm is set to be active during the day when owner is at work and kids are at school, and at night... it's largely inactive during the weekend, when kids are home and running around. Clicking the "Linkage Method" tab will bring up the options of what you want the camera to do with the alarm. Ensure the "Alarm Type" is still "NO" Enable Alarm input handling Under "Normal Linkage" click "Send Email," and an email will be sent every time the alarm is triggered. That should do it. Now as you look at those pages, you can see that other options exist. You can also enable alarm OUTPUT from that camera. This output can be fed to an alarm system, a buzzer, a relay, a chime, a light... the options are endless. It can also trigger internal recording inside the camera (to a microSD card), so you have backup images in case the bad guys steal your DVR/NVR. |
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
whats the difference between a turret and a dome? maybe less dome reflections on a turret? are the IR LED's generally better or worse on a turret? I got my hikvision 4ch nvr and single 4mp dome working. can use the app or web interface but only on the lan, havent figured out this stupid Uverse wifi router. May just disable it and get a better netgear AC wifi router. or maybe go seperate wifi and router with unbunto or something. Now I just need 3 more cameras. Plan to add one to the street side of the house to see whats happening at the driveway and when my Daugher goes to school which is literally across the street. and probably one on the back patio/master bedroom sliding door and the dog kennel out back. possibly one in the living room/kitchen as well. I got a cheap IR flood from amazon to help at night with my semi large driveway, and I'm pretty impressed for $22 prime. Build quality "feels" pretty solid. only time will tell how well it holds up. Before and after pics. http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n192/slappomatt/192.168.1.131_01_20170601223156809_zpsmonut3cj.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n192/slappomatt/192.168.1.131_01_20170601223102605_zpsbwuhoatt.jpg Far wall is just about 20 yards from camera. www.amazon.com/dp/B01G6K407Q View Quote |
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I have a somewhat related question. We have an inactive ADT system. Is there anyway to use the exsisting wireless sensors with a new self monitoring system?
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How is this system from Nelly's?
http://www.nellyssecurity.com/complete-8-channel-1080p-hd-tvi-dome-surveillance-system-w-1tb-hard-drive-1056.html |
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
How is this system from Nelly's? http://www.nellyssecurity.com/complete-8-channel-1080p-hd-tvi-dome-surveillance-system-w-1tb-hard-drive-1056.html View Quote If you're starting from scratch, go with straight IP (using network cable) rather than TVI |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Look at the cable connnectors... those are BNC. That's a system you'd use to retrofit an older analog system, and upgrade the cameras/DVR without replacing the cables. If you're starting from scratch, go with straight IP (using network cable) rather than TVI View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
How is this system from Nelly's? http://www.nellyssecurity.com/complete-8-channel-1080p-hd-tvi-dome-surveillance-system-w-1tb-hard-drive-1056.html If you're starting from scratch, go with straight IP (using network cable) rather than TVI |
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So looking at replacing two of my Acti E73 domes with some newer bullets for better night viewing. I will be re-using the Acti domes in other areas where I have older non-IR domes. How are the Nelly's 5mb bullets or is there another bullet I should be looking at?
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Originally Posted By jake-cutter:
So looking at replacing two of my Acti E73 domes with some newer bullets for better night viewing. I will be re-using the Acti domes in other areas where I have older non-IR domes. How are the Nelly's 5mb bullets or is there another bullet I should be looking at? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By coldair:
go with the Hikvision mini pzt, blows away my 5 mp bullet View Quote |
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that PZT is auto tracking and I have it mounted where I have a bullet and dome thinking I had great coverage and that camera takes the place of both cameras and then some. plus the night time clarity is unreal
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I wish I was half the man my dog thinks I am.
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Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Is there a recommended ethernet complete system? View Quote Don't buy "CVI" or "TVI" systems, as those are for retrofitting a previously-installed analog system. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Any of them could work, depending on how many cameras you need... but they don't come with cable, generally speaking. Don't buy "CVI" or "TVI" systems, as those are for retrofitting a previously-installed analog system. View Quote |
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Might have been asked before but does this Nelly's Security ever have promo codes or sales? I won't be needing the system till late this year but am starting to look now.
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Originally Posted By goodasgone81:
Might have been asked before but does this Nelly's Security ever have promo codes or sales? I won't be needing the system till late this year but am starting to look now. View Quote |
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Try this maneuver: Take 50-60 paces backwards. Take several deep breaths. Sprint forward at full speed. Do a triple summersault through the air, and disappear up your own asshole.
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Originally Posted By coldair:
that PZT is auto tracking and I have it mounted where I have a bullet and dome thinking I had great coverage and that camera takes the place of both cameras and then some. plus the night time clarity is unreal View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
There are a bunch of them at Nelly's, right under the TVI systems. I'm confused at what you're looking for? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By beavo451:
Which specific PTZ camera are you referring to? I want to see how good the auto tracking is. View Quote |
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View Quote I haven't played with the auto-tracking yet, myself. |
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I'm looking at Nelly's camera. Are they rebranded Hikvision with custom firmware or just Hikvision cameras? Does anyone have experience with this camera?
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Originally Posted By nikroft:
I'm looking at Nelly's camera. Are they rebranded Hikvision with custom firmware or just Hikvision cameras? Does anyone have experience with this camera? View Quote |
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Can anyone in the know give input on this
3MP Vari-Focal Dome IP On the youtube video on that page the Nelly's security guys says it's the OEM nc303vd which is the Hikvision DS-2CD2732F-I .... researching the Hikvision DS-2CD2732F-I it gets bad reviews on amazon but only because it's the Chinese verision but it sounds like these are for the US market have the nc303vd OEM on the packaging. I'm considering getting ten since it does look like a crazy good price, so good that I'm wondering if these are some of the shitty one's that the few reviews on amazon are talking about. |
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Originally Posted By goodasgone81:
Can anyone in the know give input on this 3MP Vari-Focal Dome IP On the youtube video on that page the Nelly's security guys says it's the OEM nc303vd which is the Hikvision DS-2CD2732F-I .... researching the Hikvision DS-2CD2732F-I it gets bad reviews on amazon but only because it's the Chinese verision but it sounds like these are for the US market have the nc303vd OEM on the packaging. I'm considering getting ten since it does look like a crazy good price, so good that I'm wondering if these are some of the shitty one's that the few reviews on amazon are talking about. View Quote And I paid a lot more than that for mine... that's a crazy good price. |
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ten of those cameras the 8 channel DVR .... 4x50' cable and 4x100' cable is something like $1350. Me being the deal hunter I am I signed up at an unrelated forum that I'm suppose to get a 5% discount code from Nelly's sent to me ... if that comes through before those cameras sell out then I'm pulling the trigger, if it doesn't I'm taking it as a sign that it wasn't meant to be :)
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I have a few of the hikvision 2031 bullet cameras, and would like to upgrade to a full NVR system.
can my older hikvisions plug into one of the NVR? they are the 1.3MP style, can they go on a 4k NVR? if so what NVR is the recommened one to get? is 4k worth the extra money? and what are the new dome and bullet cameras that are worth getting? thanks |
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another way to ask,
What NVR should I get so that I can eventually upgrade to better cameras but still be able to use the ones I have right now? |
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