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Posted: 7/21/2014 1:10:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wag_bag]
I'm starting to consider my next dog. I grew up with Labs and Malamutes. Taught the lab to hunt when I was a kid. Currently have a small Australian cattle dog in the house. Here's the list of considerations:
I lead an extremely active lifestyle. SO is very active, as well. I'm active duty military. A dog the can be taught to hunt would be nice, but not essential. The house never goes more than an hour or two without someone home. House sits on a half acre lot. I would like a dog that can run with me, which can be upwards of 6-8 miles a day, but 4 mile runs are more common. No kids, but they will likely come along in the next couple years. Dog needs to be able to obey the SO. She has the self discipline to train the dog while I'm away. Large breed only. In my off time, the dog will likely go everywhere with me. I'm open to any and all suggestions. Thanks in advance. eta: When I'm away, the dog will be in charge of protecting the SO and the house. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 1:24:03 AM EDT
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A Malinois would be a great running buddy for you. Probably not a good hunter though. Perhaps a Weimeraner.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 1:29:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mariner82:
A Malinois would be a great running buddy for you. Probably not a good hunter though. Perhaps a Weimeraner. The Malinois thread in GD is what prompted me to start this one. Nearly any breed can be taught to track. Hunting would be nice, but is by no means a deal breaker. I've thought about GSDs a good bit, as well. Then, there's always the Labs... |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:26:45 AM EDT
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Have you considered a Brittany? Very energetic, good hunter/pointer, can be trained easily.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:37:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Radiopat:
Have you considered a Brittany? Very energetic, good hunter/pointer, can be trained easily. They're good hunting dogs. I know a few, personally. They're just pretty small and don't have a very good guard instinct. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:52:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
They're good hunting dogs. I know a few, personally. They're just pretty small and don't have a very good guard instinct. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By Radiopat:
Have you considered a Brittany? Very energetic, good hunter/pointer, can be trained easily. They're good hunting dogs. I know a few, personally. They're just pretty small and don't have a very good guard instinct. You're right there. The Brits that I've known have been good to alert but they're not going to be aggressive and protect. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Radiopat:
You're right there. The Brits that I've known have been good to alert but they're not going to be aggressive and protect. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Radiopat:
Originally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By Radiopat:
Have you considered a Brittany? Very energetic, good hunter/pointer, can be trained easily. They're good hunting dogs. I know a few, personally. They're just pretty small and don't have a very good guard instinct. You're right there. The Brits that I've known have been good to alert but they're not going to be aggressive and protect. Guess I should have stated in my OP that I want a dog that'll protect things while I'm gone. 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:32:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Guess I should have stated in my OP that I want a dog that'll protect things while I'm gone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By Radiopat:
Originally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By Radiopat:
Have you considered a Brittany? Very energetic, good hunter/pointer, can be trained easily. They're good hunting dogs. I know a few, personally. They're just pretty small and don't have a very good guard instinct. You're right there. The Brits that I've known have been good to alert but they're not going to be aggressive and protect. Guess I should have stated in my OP that I want a dog that'll protect things while I'm gone. Then Doberman Pinscher fits your needs like a glove, but not so much a hunter......... |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:35:56 PM EDT
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I have no experience with Dobermans. I actually think it's been 15 or 20 years since I've even seen one. Definitely something to consider, though.
Beaucerons were also mentioned. I honestly don't know anything about them aside from what someone PM'd me about them. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 5:31:58 PM EDT
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GSD.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 5:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
I have no experience with Dobermans. I actually think it's been 15 or 20 years since I've even seen one. Definitely something to consider, though. Beaucerons were also mentioned. I honestly don't know anything about them aside from what someone PM'd me about them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
I have no experience with Dobermans. I actually think it's been 15 or 20 years since I've even seen one. Definitely something to consider, though. Beaucerons were also mentioned. I honestly don't know anything about them aside from what someone PM'd me about them. More on the Beauceron: The Beauceron is known in France as a guard dog, a helper around the farm (herding sheep or cattle), and/or a ring sport dog (primarily protection training). This athletic, healthy and long-lived breed has been bred to be intelligent, calm, gentle, and fearless.[4] Adults are typically suspicious of strangers and are excellent natural guard dogs. On the other hand they typically take their cue from their handlers when it comes to greeting strangers, and are neither sharp nor shy. They do best when raised within the family but they can sleep outside, the better to act as guards (their weatherproof coats make them ideal kennel users even in the coldest winters). They are eager learners and can be trained to a high level. However, their physical and mental development is slow, relative to other similar breeds (e.g. German and other large shepherds): they are not mentally or physically mature until the age of about three years, so their training should not be rushed. Several five- or ten-minute play-training exercises per day in the early years can achieve better results than long or rigorous training sessions. They are not hunters, per se, although they excel at tracking. If you're wanting to go the hunting route too, you could look at Wirehaired vizslas or Drahthaars, but they aren't going to be as good for the protector role. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 6:18:26 PM EDT
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Thanks, Namaah. I was reading up on all the ones mentioned so far, today. Those damn Mals look like fun. I have no doubts I could handle the dog, it's when I'm away that things might get sporting.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 6:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Thanks, Namaah. I was reading up on all the ones mentioned so far, today. Those damn Mals look like fun. I have no doubts I could handle the dog, it's when I'm away that things might get sporting. 
The coonhounds I mentioned will hunt really well (depending on what it is you want to hunt), and will certainly alert you that someone's coming around, but aren't super protective. There are six different breeds of coonhounds as well, so there is a variety of looks and hunting styles, but none of them are particularly useful for bird hunting. Bluetick 
Redbone 
Treeing Walker 
English 
Plott 
Black and Tan 
You might could look at Catahoula Leopard Dogs. They are popular hog hunting dogs that can also be used to tree game, and I imagine you could try training one to retrieve. They are pretty wary of people outside their pack and are able to hunt over miles and miles, so they have energy and stamina. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2014 2:19:40 PM EDT
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I'd suggest a Catahoula, love mine and will be picking our second next month. I hunt coyotes with mine, but they use these dogs for hunting hogs and working cattle as well as other jobs. He's all business in the field, playful at home, leary of strangers, and very protective of his family. No one comes around the house without him letting us know about it. I don't have much experience with other breeds so I can't fairly compare him against other dogs.
He really surprised me how smart they are and easy to train. I'm confident that you could teach him to retrieve if so desired. They have a lot of energy, I bring mine out everyday with a few exceptions. I was leery of getting a dog due to my inexperience, but we absolutely love our dog and are glad we got him. |
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Posted: 7/22/2014 11:32:00 PM EDT
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The SO has decided she wants a Malinois. I hadn't even brought it up.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2014 11:32:34 PM EDT
[#15]
GSD
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:31:11 AM EDT
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Take a look at the Rhodesian Ridgeback. As long as you don't live ion the Great Icy North, they will do fine in the rest of the weather.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:23:47 PM EDT
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Best Dog I've had is a Red Fox Lab from Beaver Dam West kennels in Kansas, or a guy named Charlie Journey in North Carolina sells the same dogs, both guys I know personally, have hunted with, shot with, and have spent a pretty good amount of time with. Whatever dog you choose, train it right early, because it can be hard to fix later.
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Posted: 8/16/2014 2:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Raptor:
Best Dog I've had is a Red Fox Lab from Beaver Dam West kennels in Kansas, or a guy named Charlie Journey in North Carolina sells the same dogs, both guys I know personally, have hunted with, shot with, and have spent a pretty good amount of time with. Whatever dog you choose, train it right early, because it can be hard to fix later. This and not knowing the family history are the reasons I'm not looking for a rescue. I'll google Red Fox Lab in a minute. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/16/2014 5:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
This and not knowing the family history are the reasons I'm not looking for a rescue. I'll google Red Fox Lab in a minute. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By The_Raptor:
Best Dog I've had is a Red Fox Lab from Beaver Dam West kennels in Kansas, or a guy named Charlie Journey in North Carolina sells the same dogs, both guys I know personally, have hunted with, shot with, and have spent a pretty good amount of time with. Whatever dog you choose, train it right early, because it can be hard to fix later. This and not knowing the family history are the reasons I'm not looking for a rescue. I'll google Red Fox Lab in a minute. All the dogs from the guys I listed all came from a field trial champion a few generations ago(dog generations). I have owned the original's grandson and the grandson's niece, which is my current dog. They aren't the biggest labs but they are super athletic, the grandson could jump a full size chain link fence, then he watched me climb it a few times and figured out how to climb out of his enclosure  . But yeah for hunting dogs for sure don't rescue, but rescues can be great house dogs!
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ID, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2014 1:16:36 AM EDT
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Pudel Pointer, trust me
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Posted: 8/25/2014 1:42:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
I have no experience with Dobermans. I actually think it's been 15 or 20 years since I've even seen one. Definitely something to consider, though. Beaucerons were also mentioned. I honestly don't know anything about them aside from what someone PM'd me about them. Being a frog, I've had the pleasure of meeting Baucerons. They were all beautiful, big, sweet, laid back, great with kids and little animals (because they were told to be) and just soooo smart. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:45:50 PM EDT
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Black lab or you're gay
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By skyshark288:
Black lab or you're gay You're gay. Yellow labs are best labs. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 2:40:46 PM EDT
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Chesapeake Bay Retriever.
Great hunting dog (very good at duck/dove), loves being active (especially anything to do with water), can easily be taught to hunt if you do your part, they can be head strong sometimes but they will listen. Chessies are very territorial over their house and their families, mine wont let anyone even near my truck, and if she hears even the slightest noise she is up and ready to go. Most all of them I've met are very weary of strangers and will try to intimidate them. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 3:13:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRetro1:
Chesapeake Bay Retriever. Great hunting dog (very good at duck/dove), loves being active (especially anything to do with water), can easily be taught to hunt if you do your part, they can be head strong sometimes but they will listen. Chessies are very territorial over their house and their families, mine wont let anyone even near my truck, and if she hears even the slightest noise she is up and ready to go. Most all of them I've met are very weary of strangers and will try to intimidate them. They're great dogs, but I'm looking for something a bit more athletic. I've known several Chessies. They're like labs but hard headed.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 3:49:10 PM EDT
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330153/Heroic-golden-retriever-saves-owner-terrifying-unprovoked-gang-attack.html
our first golden retriever threw 2 rottweilers to the ground and whooped their asses for invading the protected area around our daughter
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Posted: 9/4/2014 3:55:45 PM EDT
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Dogo Argentinos are awesome. They hunt wild hogs, can go head to head with a puma and win, are incredibly social, and will fight to the death to protect their families.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 4:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Dogo Argentinos are awesome. They hunt wild hogs, can go head to head with a puma and win, are incredibly social, and will fight to the death to protect their families. Indeed. I believe they are illegal to import, though. I know there are a couple "breeders" down in Florida breeding "pitbulls" with some Dogo in them for hunting hogs. I've seen them in action running buggies down out in the swamps. One of those 140 pound dogs in a cut vest is about the most intimidating animal I've ever seen.
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Posted: 9/4/2014 4:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Indeed. I believe they are illegal to import, though. I know there are a couple "breeders" down in Florida breeding "pitbulls" with some Dogo in them for hunting hogs. I've seen them in action running buggies down out in the swamps. One of those 140 pound dogs in a cut vest is about the most intimidating animal I've ever seen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Dogo Argentinos are awesome. They hunt wild hogs, can go head to head with a puma and win, are incredibly social, and will fight to the death to protect their families. Indeed. I believe they are illegal to import, though. I know there are a couple "breeders" down in Florida breeding "pitbulls" with some Dogo in them for hunting hogs. I've seen them in action running buggies down out in the swamps. One of those 140 pound dogs in a cut vest is about the most intimidating animal I've ever seen. Not at all illegal to import and there are several Dogo breeders in the US. Dogo Argentino Club of America |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 4:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coldair:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330153/Heroic-golden-retriever-saves-owner-terrifying-unprovoked-gang-attack.html our first golden retriever threw 2 rottweilers to the ground and whooped their asses for invading the protected area around our daughter Golden Retriever is best retriever! 
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Posted: 9/4/2014 4:48:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naamah:
Not at all illegal to import and there are several Dogo breeders in the US. Dogo Argentino Club of America Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naamah:
Originally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By AnvilUSMC:
Dogo Argentinos are awesome. They hunt wild hogs, can go head to head with a puma and win, are incredibly social, and will fight to the death to protect their families. Indeed. I believe they are illegal to import, though. I know there are a couple "breeders" down in Florida breeding "pitbulls" with some Dogo in them for hunting hogs. I've seen them in action running buggies down out in the swamps. One of those 140 pound dogs in a cut vest is about the most intimidating animal I've ever seen. Not at all illegal to import and there are several Dogo breeders in the US. Dogo Argentino Club of America Cool. |
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Posted: 9/5/2014 11:05:58 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
They're great dogs, but I'm looking for something a bit more athletic. I've known several Chessies. They're like labs but hard headed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By TheRetro1:
Chesapeake Bay Retriever. Great hunting dog (very good at duck/dove), loves being active (especially anything to do with water), can easily be taught to hunt if you do your part, they can be head strong sometimes but they will listen. Chessies are very territorial over their house and their families, mine wont let anyone even near my truck, and if she hears even the slightest noise she is up and ready to go. Most all of them I've met are very weary of strangers and will try to intimidate them. They're great dogs, but I'm looking for something a bit more athletic. I've known several Chessies. They're like labs but hard headed. haha yea they can be that way sometimes. |
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Posted: 9/5/2014 11:59:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: geekz0r]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
They're great dogs, but I'm looking for something a bit more athletic. I've known several Chessies. They're like labs but hard headed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wag_bag:
Originally Posted By TheRetro1:
Chesapeake Bay Retriever. Great hunting dog (very good at duck/dove), loves being active (especially anything to do with water), can easily be taught to hunt if you do your part, they can be head strong sometimes but they will listen. Chessies are very territorial over their house and their families, mine wont let anyone even near my truck, and if she hears even the slightest noise she is up and ready to go. Most all of them I've met are very weary of strangers and will try to intimidate them. They're great dogs, but I'm looking for something a bit more athletic. I've known several Chessies. They're like labs but hard headed. if you're dead set on "large breed only" but you want athletic... how about a greyhound? Granted they're fucking couch potatoes when they're not running but they're quiet and can be very obedient and don't shed much. so having one that obeys your SO shouldn't be a problem. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2014 10:27:04 PM EDT
[#34]
My next dog willbe a drahthaar. They can hunt anything males can get into the 85 lb range. They are athletic. All breeders require that you have a hunting license and want you to hunt with their pups. A large group of the breeders prefer that you test your dog in the jghv system as it helps them determine their breeding.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:17:08 PM EDT
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For a versatile big athletic dog, hard to beat an Airedale. Great with kids, too. Will hunt just about anything. Tough enough to win the fight.
Not without faults, though. They have a digging tendency, but not terrible. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:56:59 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alaskagrown: My next dog willbe a drahthaar. They can hunt anything males can get into the 85 lb range. They are athletic. All breeders require that you have a hunting license and want you to hunt with their pups. A large group of the breeders prefer that you test your dog in the jghv system as it helps them determine their breeding.  |
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USA
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Posted: 1/30/2015 7:57:15 PM EDT
[#37]
Said it many times
Cur - specifically Black Mouth Cur or Kemmer Mountain Cur Pictures not mine. I do have a Kemmer Mountain Cur and my next will be a Black Mouth Cur |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:17:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ITSA556]
[#38]
You may consider a Dutch Shepherd
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:44:10 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naamah:
The coonhounds I mentioned will hunt really well (depending on what it is you want to hunt), and will certainly alert you that someone's coming around, but aren't super protective. There are six different breeds of coonhounds as well, so there is a variety of looks and hunting styles, but none of them are particularly useful for bird hunting. Bluetick http://evenstarhounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/evenstar_hounds_akc_bluetick_coonhound_puppies_s.jpg Redbone http://the-hunting-dog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/redbone-coonhound-dog-breed.jpg Treeing Walker http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/breedinformation/hound/images/treeingwalker.jpg English http://www.dkimages.com/discover/DKIMAGES/Discover/previews/738/47395.JPG Plott http://static.ddmcdn.com/en-us/apl/breedselector/images/breed-selector/dogs/breeds/plott_01_lg.jpg Black and Tan http://www.dog.com/Breeds/images/AllBreeds/50.jpg You might could look at Catahoula Leopard Dogs. They are popular hog hunting dogs that can also be used to tree game, and I imagine you could try training one to retrieve. They are pretty wary of people outside their pack and are able to hunt over miles and miles, so they have energy and stamina. http://static.gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/catahoula-leopard-dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/pictures/catahoula-leopard-dog-0001.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naamah:
Originally Posted By wag_bag:
Thanks, Namaah. I was reading up on all the ones mentioned so far, today. Those damn Mals look like fun. I have no doubts I could handle the dog, it's when I'm away that things might get sporting.
The coonhounds I mentioned will hunt really well (depending on what it is you want to hunt), and will certainly alert you that someone's coming around, but aren't super protective. There are six different breeds of coonhounds as well, so there is a variety of looks and hunting styles, but none of them are particularly useful for bird hunting. Bluetick http://evenstarhounds.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/evenstar_hounds_akc_bluetick_coonhound_puppies_s.jpg Redbone http://the-hunting-dog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/redbone-coonhound-dog-breed.jpg Treeing Walker http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/breedinformation/hound/images/treeingwalker.jpg English http://www.dkimages.com/discover/DKIMAGES/Discover/previews/738/47395.JPG Plott http://static.ddmcdn.com/en-us/apl/breedselector/images/breed-selector/dogs/breeds/plott_01_lg.jpg Black and Tan http://www.dog.com/Breeds/images/AllBreeds/50.jpg You might could look at Catahoula Leopard Dogs. They are popular hog hunting dogs that can also be used to tree game, and I imagine you could try training one to retrieve. They are pretty wary of people outside their pack and are able to hunt over miles and miles, so they have energy and stamina. http://static.gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/catahoula-leopard-dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/pictures/catahoula-leopard-dog-0001.jpg I have a walker/beagle mix that is full of energy. She is a tough dog. She survived a pretty bad attack from a Doberman over the summer. Daisy is about 1 year old now. She woke me up last night around 11pm by playing fetch with herself in the kitchen. My wife bought her some new tennis balls. She absolutely loves tennis balls. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 11:11:20 PM EDT
[#40]
I have a cattle dog. Ex wanted a spare dog and got a malinois without considering the interaction with the cattle dog. Malinois was dominant as hell and used my cattle dog as an attack training tool about 23 hours per day. Had to get rid of that wife and dog. Cattle dog is happy again.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2015 4:30:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing:
I have a cattle dog. Ex wanted a spare dog and got a malinois without considering the interaction with the cattle dog. Malinois was dominant as hell and used my cattle dog as an attack training tool about 23 hours per day. Had to get rid of that wife and dog. Cattle dog is happy again. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2015 11:44:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Get a Golden Retriever and a gun for protection. Teach your wife to shoot and you have now excelled in life. Best dog ever and your both able to protect yourself. He/she will alert you.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2015 1:01:15 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stre-tch:
Said it many times Cur - specifically Black Mouth Cur https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608019644158117495&pid=15.1&P=0 https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607986671697792247&pid=15.1&P=0 https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607991696811166549&pid=15.1&P=0 or Kemmer Mountain Cur https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608037880590041206&pid=15.1&P=0 https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607989304514445634&pid=15.1&P=0 Pictures not mine. I do have a Kemmer Mountain Cur and my next will be a Black Mouth Cur Yep. I have a blackmouth/lab mix, he's only 65lbs, but he's 65lbs of solid muscle. The dog can outrun me on 5-6 mile runs at a 7min pace, and still be ready to play afterwards. He is a big lap dog who wants to play all the time and with any of our friends that come over. until he alerts to something or someone and then it's go time and he doesn't relax until I have "investigated" it to his satisfaction. He dove hunts a little too, but thats as much bird hunting as I do. Has sat in the deer blind with me multiple times and sees/realizes the deer long before I do 
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Posted: 4/15/2015 3:38:12 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
Mine: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Hanzbucket/Axle%20193539/Axle1911011.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hanz:
Originally Posted By Alaskagrown:
My next dog willbe a drahthaar. They can hunt anything males can get into the 85 lb range. They are athletic. All breeders require that you have a hunting license and want you to hunt with their pups. A large group of the breeders prefer that you test your dog in the jghv system as it helps them determine their breeding. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Hanzbucket/Axle%20193539/Axle1911011.jpg Lol, doing force fetch I see! Working on that with my GWP currently. |
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