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Posted: 2/13/2020 9:07:20 PM EDT
A while back, my dad built me a 4'x6' utility trailer.
The thing is heavy duty and very overbuilt. I had an idea to build a slide-in that I could use for camping, but be able to remove so I could use it as a utility trailer once I devised a way to park it. The reason I wanted to build a camper was because I'm not young any more and I don't like sleeping on the ground as much as I used to. Using isometric grid paper (which I call "poor man's CAD") I sketched out the configuration as I wanted it to be. I also made a model in Sketchup just as kind of a proof of concept. Of course, the plans changed as I worked on them more. https://i.imgur.com/A9Oyhc7.mp4 I wanted it to be simple and make everything modular. I'll have a generic pass-through in the wall, so that when I'm at a place where I have electricity, I can run an extension cord inside and run either a small heater or a window A/C unit, neither of which will be permanently installed so they can be removed to save weight. When I don't have power, I can set my propane tank outside and run a hose in for my Mr. Buddy heater (yes, I am well-versed on how to deal with CO risk and will have a detector installed and running at all times). Same with the stove...either an electric hot plate or a butane stove, depending on availability. The other will stay home to save weight. I will also have a small sink and perhaps a faucet, but when I'm at locations where there's no water, I will put a 5 gal water container with a spigot next to the sink to have running water. I drew up blueprints based on my plans and was off to the lumberyard to grab some wood and get started. I plan to use a combination of Lauan, 2x2" framing, and 3/8" ply. Some parts will be Lauan, furring strips laid flat for framing, and 3/8" ply. All held together with copious amounts of wood glue, construction adhesive, brad nails, and prayers. Day one. That's the trailer I'll be using. I'll confess, I'm actually many steps ahead, because I wanted to avoid a "safe thread"...lol. So, if you identify problems, it's likely I've already dealt with them... |
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Check out the YouTube channel Aging Wheels.
He did a slid-in camper. Much learning can be had from his mistakes. |
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I watched the whole thing before I even started...lol.
He was way more ambitious than I was. His had permanent electric, even a permanently installed AC unit. Mine will just be a box to which you can add accessories as needed. Not even gonna wire it. I have wall conduit and if I later decide I need it, I'll install it and run power where I need it. |
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Center of gravity ?
You don't want it to be tippy when trailering. |
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Check the speed rating on your tires A lot of those little trailers tires are rated at 65 mph Replace and repack wheel bearings before any long trip You might check the forum at teardrop and teenie tiny trailers for ideas People have designed slide in teardrop for those trailers |
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Center of gravity ? You don't want it to be tippy when trailering. View Quote Once I add gear, which will be in the floor, the CG will drop a bit. With an imaginary line drawn through the vertical midpoint of the camper (about 4 feet off the ground), 30% of the weight will be above the line, 70% below. It'll be good, as long as I take it easy. I already drive like an old man....lol. |
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First Check the speed rating on your tires A lot of those little trailers tires are rated at 65 mph Replace and repack wheel bearings before any long trip You might check the forum at teardrop and teenie tiny trailers for ideas People have designed slide in teardrop for those trailers View Quote Bearings have zerks. Every spring, I hit them with the gun until grease oozes out. Yes, there are all kinds of interesting designs. Mine is based loosely on truck campers of similar designs. |
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Just to throw my two cents random observations in...
Trailer tires suck, and by suck I mean blow. Try to fit an axle/wheel/tire combination based off some common car or truck. Bonus points if they match the tow vehicle. Blowing a trailer tire on a weekday in a big city is no big deal- long holiday weekends out in the sticks and you may be camping on the roadside for an extended period. Have you done the math and figured up the weight of all that wood, with the appliances, gear, and provisions (water is heavy) that will be in the trailer as it glides down the highway, and compared it to the trailer's max? 4x4 lumber is strong, but heavy and eats a LOT of interior room. What do camper manufacturers use? (hint- it ain't 4x4s) Do you know the actual weight limit of that trailer? Have you considered other alternatives, both to the trailer you're using and the slide-in assembly you're making? Personally, if I were to do a side-in arrangement, I would take an existing purpose built camper, remove the axles, and slide it into a military surplus M101 or M1101 trailer. I bought a military M1101 trailer and was considering the same sort of thing you're doing- then dismissed it- here's why. The places I would choose to 'camp' are not trailer friendly. I would never bother paying money to camp in a campground- really don't see the point. I was in my late 40s at the time, and like you didn't want to sleep on the ground any more. Now in my 50s, we love camping up in the National Forests here- hundreds of miles of old logging roads in various states of disrepair. We have several sorta-secret spots that are unused dead-end logging roads. Taking a trailer in there would likely be disastrous. Some of those roads are barely wide enough to fit the truck thru, there's no turning around, and sometimes you have to turn around (rock slide, big trees down, etc). The solution was easy- roof top tent. Attached File |
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Remember, this has been in the planning phase since Spring of 2019, so literally every concern you've posted I have already dealt with.
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Just to throw my two cents random observations in... Trailer tires suck, and by suck I mean blow. Try to fit an axle/wheel/tire combination based off some common car or truck. Bonus points if they match the tow vehicle. Blowing a trailer tire on a weekday in a big city is no big deal- long holiday weekends out in the sticks and you may be camping on the roadside for an extended period. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Just to throw my two cents random observations in... Trailer tires suck, and by suck I mean blow. Try to fit an axle/wheel/tire combination based off some common car or truck. Bonus points if they match the tow vehicle. Blowing a trailer tire on a weekday in a big city is no big deal- long holiday weekends out in the sticks and you may be camping on the roadside for an extended period. Have you done the math and figured up the weight of all that wood, with the appliances, gear, and provisions (water is heavy) that will be in the trailer as it glides down the highway, and compared it to the trailer's max? 4x4 lumber is strong, but heavy and eats a LOT of interior room. What do camper manufacturers use? (hint- it ain't 4x4s) Do you know the actual weight limit of that trailer? 4x4's are heavy and large, true. That's why I'm using 2x2's in the tub and on anything that supports significant weight. And up top, the sidewalls, front and back, it's going to be a 3/8" ply/furring strip frame/lauan interior wall. It's very lightweight and strong. My dad built the trailer. I believe the axle is rated for 3000 lb and the rest of the trailer is built way more solidly than commercial trailers of comparable sizes. I've comfortably carried 32 cinderblocks in it, which was about 1200 lbs. I had my dad (the builder) with me when I did that and he assured me it could handle more if I needed it to. Using square footage/linear footage estimates of weight for the types of wood and sheeting I'm using, the completed shell will weigh a little over 600 lbs. So far, on every single panel I've built, I've been under my original estimates, but I'm going to cover it with painted canvas, so that will add some weight back in. Here are my original estimates: Floor: 102 lb (actual weight) Tub sides: 2x2 = 11.25 1/4" = 5.34 Lauan = 4.86 TOTAL (x2) = 43 (they actually came out to 20 lbs even, so it was 40 for both) Side Overhangs: 7.5 sq ft 2x2 = 12.9 lb 1/4" = 4.4 Lauan = 4.05 TOTAL (x2) = 42.7 Front Crossmember: 9.25 sq ft 2x2 = 25.25 lb 1/4" ply = 5.45 Lauan = 4.9 TOTAL= 35.6 Sides: 24.8 furring strips 31 plywood 18.9 lauan 10 window TOTAL (x2): 160 Front overhang: 2x2 = 15 lb Ply = 11.57 Lauan = 7.2 TOTAL: 33.77 Front panel 26 sq ft FS = 16.4 lb 3/8" = 23.1 lb Lauan = 14.4 TOTAL = 53.9 ROOF: 2x2 = 32.5 Lauan = 28.08 1/2" ply = 67.2 TOTAL: 127.8 Not even gonna estimate the rear panel, because of the door and window. We'll say 100 lbs and call it good, even though there's no way it's more than one of the side panels. FINAL GRAND TOTAL: 596.7 lbs As I said, I will then add/remove equipment as needed, depending on the time of year and facilities available. For example, in the summer, if I'll have power, I'll throw a window unit in the floor of the trailer and install it upon arrival. If it's winter, I'll bring the heater. I'm going to put a small sink and faucet in it that hooks up to a potable water supply. If there's no water, then a 5 gallon jug with a spigot will be coming along. The point is to keep it as light as possible and only bring what you need. + trailer weight approximately 350, gives a total weight of just shy of 1000 lbs. Then, I can add 100-200 lbs of gear and still be under the max loading that I've hauled in the trailer, with plenty of leeway on the total weight. Have you considered other alternatives, both to the trailer you're using and the slide-in assembly you're making? Personally, if I were to do a side-in arrangement, I would take an existing purpose built camper, remove the axles, and slide it into a military surplus M101 or M1101 trailer. I bought a military M1101 trailer and was considering the same sort of thing you're doing- then dismissed it- here's why. The places I would choose to 'camp' are not trailer friendly. I would never bother paying money to camp in a campground- really don't see the point. I was in my late 40s at the time, and like you didn't want to sleep on the ground any more. Now in my 50s, we love camping up in the National Forests here- hundreds of miles of old logging roads in various states of disrepair. We have several sorta-secret spots that are unused dead-end logging roads. Taking a trailer in there would likely be disastrous. Some of those roads are barely wide enough to fit the truck thru, there's no turning around, and sometimes you have to turn around (rock slide, big trees down, etc). The solution was easy- roof top tent. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/171243/Tent2_jpg-1276876.JPG I appreciate your concerns, but this project has been in the works for nearly a year, and I've spend many a sleepless night working the bugs out in my head! |
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I have a small teardrop trailer that is basically a teardrop pod that bolts down on a flat bed aluminum trailer. We only removed the pod and used the trailer seperately once. That time we recovered a disabled four wheeler out in the woods. It was a nice option to have. My teardop is a lot lighter than your trailer will be. Trailer weighs 400 pounds (before I added a couple of accessories) and the pod (empty) weighs about 350. The pod has an aluminum skin, aluminum frame, insulated, and the interior is lined with some type of finished panel. The pod also has a 5K BTU A/C built in, no heater, and it is wired for 12 volt and 120 volt AC. It works for a lot of what it looks like you intend on using yours for. It is a flat, and comfortable place to sleep pretty much regardless of weather. I have slept in mine comfortably from zero degrees F all of the way up over over ninety degrees F. Sleeping comfortably in warmer weather definitely requires more electricty. I didn't build mine. It was manufactured by a company called Micro-Lite. One thing that I will say about mine is that it is small and light enough that I take it places "just in case" and on more than one occasion I have been glad that I did.
Good luck with your build. I am looking forward to seeing how it will turn out. 2Hut8 |
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That teardrop sounds awesome.
I considered a teardrop build, but I get a bit claustrophobic. I needed something that had a sitting/standing option to it. I do like the light weight, though. Doing it over, I'd probably incorporate foam sandwich construction into a large portion of my design. It's amazing how they build those things. And, they're already insulated when they're finished... The option to convert back to a utility trailer is handy. I'm not yet finished developing the system for mounting/demounting the pod, but it's coming. My trailer already has permanent registration, so there's no need to register (and pay taxes on) another vehicle. |
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Wow, sounds like you have this planned very well! Good luck and keep the pics coming. View Quote Imagine what it would have been like had I posted this in GD.... |
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Remember, this has been in the planning phase since Spring of 2019, so literally every concern you've posted I have already dealt with. 99% of my usage will be within 30 miles of my house. I do have a spare that I will be carrying, but even if I didn't, I could be to the local Wal Mart and purchase an identical tire/wheel combo within an hour or so and be back to fit it. The majority of the use will be at my brother's hunting property, which is a 25 minute trip from home. Nevertheless, I plan to replace the tires soon since they are original to the trailer and it's about four years old as of right now. Yes, I have done lots of math. Boy, have I done math. 4x4's are heavy and large, true. That's why I'm using 2x2's in the tub and on anything that supports significant weight. And up top, the sidewalls, front and back, it's going to be a 3/8" ply/furring strip frame/lauan interior wall. It's very lightweight and strong. My dad built the trailer. I believe the axle is rated for 3000 lb and the rest of the trailer is built way more solidly than commercial trailers of comparable sizes. I've comfortably carried 32 cinderblocks in it, which was about 1200 lbs. I had my dad (the builder) with me when I did that and he assured me it could handle more if I needed it to. Using square footage/linear footage estimates of weight for the types of wood and sheeting I'm using, the completed shell will weigh a little over 600 lbs. So far, on every single panel I've built, I've been under my original estimates, but I'm going to cover it with painted canvas, so that will add some weight back in. Here are my original estimates: Floor: 102 lb (actual weight) Tub sides: 2x2 = 11.25 1/4" = 5.34 Lauan = 4.86 TOTAL (x2) = 43 (they actually came out to 20 lbs even, so it was 40 for both) Side Overhangs: 7.5 sq ft 2x2 = 12.9 lb 1/4" = 4.4 Lauan = 4.05 TOTAL (x2) = 42.7 Front Crossmember: 9.25 sq ft 2x2 = 25.25 lb 1/4" ply = 5.45 Lauan = 4.9 TOTAL= 35.6 Sides: 24.8 furring strips 31 plywood 18.9 lauan 10 window TOTAL (x2): 160 Front overhang: 2x2 = 15 lb Ply = 11.57 Lauan = 7.2 TOTAL: 33.77 Front panel 26 sq ft FS = 16.4 lb 3/8" = 23.1 lb Lauan = 14.4 TOTAL = 53.9 ROOF: 2x2 = 32.5 Lauan = 28.08 1/2" ply = 67.2 TOTAL: 127.8 Not even gonna estimate the rear panel, because of the door and window. We'll say 100 lbs and call it good, even though there's no way it's more than one of the side panels. FINAL GRAND TOTAL: 596.7 lbs As I said, I will then add/remove equipment as needed, depending on the time of year and facilities available. For example, in the summer, if I'll have power, I'll throw a window unit in the floor of the trailer and install it upon arrival. If it's winter, I'll bring the heater. I'm going to put a small sink and faucet in it that hooks up to a potable water supply. If there's no water, then a 5 gallon jug with a spigot will be coming along. The point is to keep it as light as possible and only bring what you need. + trailer weight approximately 350, gives a total weight of just shy of 1000 lbs. Then, I can add 100-200 lbs of gear and still be under the max loading that I've hauled in the trailer, with plenty of leeway on the total weight. I would think that would be even heavier that what I'm doing. Those military trailers are built like tanks. Nothing wrong with that, but I'll be loading and unloading this by myself. I camp mostly at my brother-in-law's deer camp. He maintains the road and I can call his father in law, who's a few minutes away, to help me should any blockages occur. Eventually, I will have a pickup truck, and I plan to build another camper like this to fit in the bed. I don't want a tent. I want a hard-side camper that I can load up and take with me with minimal setup. I appreciate your concerns, but this project has been in the works for nearly a year, and I've spend many a sleepless night working the bugs out in my head! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Remember, this has been in the planning phase since Spring of 2019, so literally every concern you've posted I have already dealt with. Quoted:
Just to throw my two cents random observations in... Trailer tires suck, and by suck I mean blow. Try to fit an axle/wheel/tire combination based off some common car or truck. Bonus points if they match the tow vehicle. Blowing a trailer tire on a weekday in a big city is no big deal- long holiday weekends out in the sticks and you may be camping on the roadside for an extended period. Have you done the math and figured up the weight of all that wood, with the appliances, gear, and provisions (water is heavy) that will be in the trailer as it glides down the highway, and compared it to the trailer's max? 4x4 lumber is strong, but heavy and eats a LOT of interior room. What do camper manufacturers use? (hint- it ain't 4x4s) Do you know the actual weight limit of that trailer? 4x4's are heavy and large, true. That's why I'm using 2x2's in the tub and on anything that supports significant weight. And up top, the sidewalls, front and back, it's going to be a 3/8" ply/furring strip frame/lauan interior wall. It's very lightweight and strong. My dad built the trailer. I believe the axle is rated for 3000 lb and the rest of the trailer is built way more solidly than commercial trailers of comparable sizes. I've comfortably carried 32 cinderblocks in it, which was about 1200 lbs. I had my dad (the builder) with me when I did that and he assured me it could handle more if I needed it to. Using square footage/linear footage estimates of weight for the types of wood and sheeting I'm using, the completed shell will weigh a little over 600 lbs. So far, on every single panel I've built, I've been under my original estimates, but I'm going to cover it with painted canvas, so that will add some weight back in. Here are my original estimates: Floor: 102 lb (actual weight) Tub sides: 2x2 = 11.25 1/4" = 5.34 Lauan = 4.86 TOTAL (x2) = 43 (they actually came out to 20 lbs even, so it was 40 for both) Side Overhangs: 7.5 sq ft 2x2 = 12.9 lb 1/4" = 4.4 Lauan = 4.05 TOTAL (x2) = 42.7 Front Crossmember: 9.25 sq ft 2x2 = 25.25 lb 1/4" ply = 5.45 Lauan = 4.9 TOTAL= 35.6 Sides: 24.8 furring strips 31 plywood 18.9 lauan 10 window TOTAL (x2): 160 Front overhang: 2x2 = 15 lb Ply = 11.57 Lauan = 7.2 TOTAL: 33.77 Front panel 26 sq ft FS = 16.4 lb 3/8" = 23.1 lb Lauan = 14.4 TOTAL = 53.9 ROOF: 2x2 = 32.5 Lauan = 28.08 1/2" ply = 67.2 TOTAL: 127.8 Not even gonna estimate the rear panel, because of the door and window. We'll say 100 lbs and call it good, even though there's no way it's more than one of the side panels. FINAL GRAND TOTAL: 596.7 lbs As I said, I will then add/remove equipment as needed, depending on the time of year and facilities available. For example, in the summer, if I'll have power, I'll throw a window unit in the floor of the trailer and install it upon arrival. If it's winter, I'll bring the heater. I'm going to put a small sink and faucet in it that hooks up to a potable water supply. If there's no water, then a 5 gallon jug with a spigot will be coming along. The point is to keep it as light as possible and only bring what you need. + trailer weight approximately 350, gives a total weight of just shy of 1000 lbs. Then, I can add 100-200 lbs of gear and still be under the max loading that I've hauled in the trailer, with plenty of leeway on the total weight. Have you considered other alternatives, both to the trailer you're using and the slide-in assembly you're making? Personally, if I were to do a side-in arrangement, I would take an existing purpose built camper, remove the axles, and slide it into a military surplus M101 or M1101 trailer. I bought a military M1101 trailer and was considering the same sort of thing you're doing- then dismissed it- here's why. The places I would choose to 'camp' are not trailer friendly. I would never bother paying money to camp in a campground- really don't see the point. I was in my late 40s at the time, and like you didn't want to sleep on the ground any more. Now in my 50s, we love camping up in the National Forests here- hundreds of miles of old logging roads in various states of disrepair. We have several sorta-secret spots that are unused dead-end logging roads. Taking a trailer in there would likely be disastrous. Some of those roads are barely wide enough to fit the truck thru, there's no turning around, and sometimes you have to turn around (rock slide, big trees down, etc). The solution was easy- roof top tent. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/171243/Tent2_jpg-1276876.JPG I appreciate your concerns, but this project has been in the works for nearly a year, and I've spend many a sleepless night working the bugs out in my head! |
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Rear carrier axle from a FWD dodge caravan/plymouth voyager might be a good choice. They use leaf springs.
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Not trying to sound like a wanker, but OSB isn't really a good choice for the flooring, it doesn't do well in wet conditions. If you don't want to change it at this point I would at least give it a heavy coating of paint, bedliner, something to help seal it. Otherwise cool project and something I've thought about doing with my utility trailer for a couple of years now, just too lazy and sleep in the back of my truck.
I'm guessing you've been on the Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers forum? http://www.tnttt.com/ |
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Quoted: Not trying to sound like a wanker, but OSB isn't really a good choice for the flooring, it doesn't do well in wet conditions. If you don't want to change it at this point I would at least give it a heavy coating of paint, bedliner, something to help seal it. Otherwise cool project and something I've thought about doing with my utility trailer for a couple of years now, just too lazy and sleep in the back of my truck. I'm guessing you've been on the Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers forum? http://www.tnttt.com/ View Quote Yeah. I have a piece of vinyl and Lauan that I'm gonna put over it, but I might just paint it as well to be sure. |
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Make sure you coat the bottom, that seems to be what folks have the most trouble with on that teardrop forum. There are several threads on using OSB that might help.
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Ah, gotcha. Just didn't want to see you go through all the trouble to end up with problems down the road (pun intended).
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I've seen at least one video where a home builder used fiberglass window screen material and it seemed to work but I'd think it would either get heavy as you added paint to smooth it or just require a lot of work sanding it. I'll see if I can find the video.
ETA- I found some of a guy building interior cabinets but I can't find the one I was looking for. Foam Cabinet Prototype - Improvements on Building Foam Cabinets for Camper Van |
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Quoted: I've seen at least one video where a home builder used fiberglass window screen material and it seemed to work but I'd think it would either get heavy as you added paint to smooth it or just require a lot of work sanding it. I'll see if I can find the video. ETA- I found some of a guy building interior cabinets but I can't find the one I was looking for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJv0pEjvC34 View Quote Yeah, this is "no-sand". Of course, you have a fabric texture when you're done, but I'm OK with that. It looks a little retro to me. And it's tough as nails. Lots of people use the Poor Man's Fiberglass (PMF) over foam with little or no supporting structure to their camper. They're called "foamies". Because of my design, part of the panels will be load bearing, so I stuck with a traditional design. But, I'm considering doing that foam technique for the cabinets. Foam cabinets covered in PMF are light and strong. |
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Quoted: @squashpup Safe thread? View Quote LOL. Hopefully not! This summer has been VERY busy. Wife "diverted" my carpentry resources into renovating two rooms of our house. I became a grandfather. We've had to deal with my mother-in-law's failing health and we now have to face some tough choices about what comes next for her. In between that, I also got into another project. Plus, my nailgun broke, and due to other circumstances, had to use my shop as temp storage (not that you could work in there...it's not air conditioned and the temps at times were pretty high). The camper kind of fell by the wayside. I actually have developed a plan to get it finished, though. As it stands right now, I'm probably 2-3 weeks away from being able to assemble the structure and have it "campable". I can always do a little at a time to the inside after I have it "dried in". My brother-in-law's father has a large metal outbuilding that he earlier agreed to let me use to do final assembly. I plan to move all the parts there in a week or two. Once construction resumes, I'll start posting updates again. I promise! |
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Quoted: Died of heat stroke and smashed gangrenous thumbs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What did people do before nailguns and AC? Died of heat stroke and smashed gangrenous thumbs. There's a very interesting book about the first crossing of the Olympic Mountain Range here in WA. Nobody (paleface anyway) had ever been in there, so in the very late 1800s there became a race of sorts to be the first. One of the local newspapers put a team together, known as the Press Party. Being in somewhat of a hurry to be first, they set out around the beginning of winter . Someone told them they could take a boat/barge up the Elwha River but the information was woefully inaccurate. The river was too shallow. So these guys are standing in the river (made of snow runoff) up to their chins for HOURS trying to push the barge over the rocks and river bottom. This was before gortex and capilene, back in the days of cotton and wool. The expedition consisted of hiking in say 20 miles, dropping off a load of gear, then going back several times before the cache was ready to move the next segment. That's in the winter, through deep snow, while it was snowing or raining, or both. That was long before lightweight nylon packs and Italian hiking boots- nothing but canvas, wood, and leather. Reading the diaries of the crossing gives you a perspective that men were a lot different then. |
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Quoted: There's a very interesting book about the first crossing of the Olympic Mountain Range here in WA. Nobody (paleface anyway) had ever been in there, so in the very late 1800s there became a race of sorts to be the first. One of the local newspapers put a team together, known as the Press Party. Being in somewhat of a hurry to be first, they set out around the beginning of winter . Someone told them they could take a boat/barge up the Elwha River but the information was woefully inaccurate. The river was too shallow. So these guys are standing in the river (made of snow runoff) up to their chins for HOURS trying to push the barge over the rocks and river bottom. This was before gortex and capilene, back in the days of cotton and wool. The expedition consisted of hiking in say 20 miles, dropping off a load of gear, then going back several times before the cache was ready to move the next segment. That's in the winter, through deep snow, while it was snowing or raining, or both. That was long before lightweight nylon packs and Italian hiking boots- nothing but canvas, wood, and leather. Reading the diaries of the crossing gives you a perspective that men were a lot different then. View Quote Also shows you that the newsies were stupid as far back as then. |
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Called my brother in law's dad this evening to secure space for building. He said that it would be fine if I wanted to use his large outbuilding to work. If the weather permits, I'm going to start moving tools, panels and parts down there on Wednesday. Hopefully, I'll be able to finish the project in a few weeks once everything is down there.
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I just figured out that I'm going to have to do some fairly significant re-design to the roof.
When I calculated overall height, I didn't figure in "overlaps". The bottom of the floor sets inside the walls. So does the roof. Those two elements lost me about 4" of overall interior height. I calculated the interior height by adding the height of the panels, so both of those ate up some of my interior height. Also, there's an overlap on the side that I didn't account for. That cost me another two inches. For example, my tub sidewall is 20" high, but the floor is 2.5" of that. I had originally planned for the roof to be 6'4" or so. As it stands now, I'm right around 6', meaning I can't stand up straight. Crap. Frustrating. One of those things that you learn the hard way, I guess. I have to design a roof now...lol. |
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Glad for the updates. I've designed and built one (frame, shell, weatherproofed) since my laat comment, but did it way differently. Curious to see your outcome. I underestimated my roof as well; should have gone a couple inches higher. Next one will be fabbed panels like yours most likely, but its been fun as a creative exercise.
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Quoted: Glad for the updates. I've designed and built one (frame, shell, weatherproofed) since my laat comment, but did it way differently. Curious to see your outcome. I underestimated my roof as well; should have gone a couple inches higher. Next one will be fabbed panels like yours most likely, but its been fun as a creative exercise. View Quote If I had it to do over again, I'd have just secured some building space from the beginning and built a frame, sheeted it, then covered it with canvas and painted it. Juggling panels and worrying about how things are going to fit up when assembly begins really stinks! Other than that, I've enjoyed it. I did follow through and rip the fabric from some panels today to do over. The later stuff I did was much better quality. And when I pulled it off, I saw that the paint did not stick well to it anyway. Got some new paint and another couple of dropcloths from Walmart today. Getting excited about making progress. |
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