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Posted: 7/11/2016 7:34:07 AM EDT
or does this lube give you more stuck cases than any other product?
the weekend before last i got a 223 and 300 win mag stuck in full length sizer dies. i follow the directions for both the lube and the sizing dies for my press 
i would rather not use wax. any other products you would recommend? |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2016 7:53:00 AM EDT
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I've never had good luck with it. EVERY time I use it I get stuck cases.......I always go back to the Lee paste type lube....never any issues.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:22:56 AM EDT
[#2]
I have been using OneShot exclusively for nearly 20years with no problems.
Time for my video again. 
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Posted: 7/11/2016 9:13:05 AM EDT
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That video is about twice as fast as I operate, you also used twice as much product
I have that same press and if that's the 308 competition FL die that is what I use I do sit ALOT higher than you do, the press is almost at my knee level maybe I should find a shorter stool! |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 11:33:28 AM EDT
[#4]
I had the same issue sticking cases with one shot, and went to wax. No more stuck cases.
The lanolin based spray lube seems to work well if you want to stick with spray. |
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Posted: 7/11/2016 1:58:30 PM EDT
[#5]
You have to shake it really really really well. And stop and give it a few shakes every third seconds or so.
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Posted: 7/11/2016 2:45:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: popnfresh]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cruze5:
That video is about twice as fast as I operate, you also used twice as much product I have that same press and if that's the 308 competition FL die that is what I use I do sit ALOT higher than you do, the press is almost at my knee level maybe I should find a shorter stool! I am just using a standard RCBS FL sizing die. The cases come out as straight as they go in so I have not upgraded to better sizing dies. I don't have stuck cases with the amount I use so.... The key to speed is having all your stuff laid out properly and loading a fresh case at the same time you unload the sized case. You can sweep the finished case out between your ring and middle finger as the ram comes down, load the fresh case with thumb and index then confirm/finish loading/guide the fresh case with the pinky as the ram goes up. Drop the finished case on the way to the fresh cases with the left hand while the right hand is operating the press. Of course the going is slower when sizing 1x fired MG brass. Sometimes I will lube a bunch and not size them for days, then the lube dries enough so you don't even have to tumble the lube off. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/11/2016 8:06:54 PM EDT
[#7]
I use the Dillon spray lube and a half-gallon bucket with a lid. Spray once, put the lid on and shake, then spray again. never had a problem with it.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2016 1:17:19 PM EDT
[#8]
You have to shake it......
I put them in a plastic gallon ziplock, spray, roll them around, good to go. Keep the bag for next batch. Never had a stuck case with Hornady spray lube... |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2016 1:46:26 PM EDT
[#9]
You have to use a TON more one shot than any other lube. (see video where he does all 4 sides in a loading block...)
RCBS spray lube, a few squirts on 50 cases laying randomly in a box, no problem, for those same 50 cases, I have to use a LOT more one shot and I have to have them in a loading block or they will stick. I don't use one shot anymore even though I used it for a while with no real problems. Other products are better and last a lot longer. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2016 2:06:18 PM EDT
[#10]
No problems with it here.
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Posted: 7/12/2016 2:10:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: popnfresh]
[#11]
Yeah I figured my OneShot cost one time and it came out to about 1/3 of a cent per case. Well worth it for the even distribution, time savings, lack of mess and no need to remove the lube if left to dry.
That is me in the video, so 1/3 of a cent for that usage. |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 4:28:09 PM EDT
[#12]
I have never had an issue with it in the 10 or so years I have been using it.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2016 5:14:57 PM EDT
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Nope HOS fondly known as Hornady One Stuck is not the best spray lube.
But, most of the problems can be traced back to user error. Personally, I like Dillon Spray Lube. And, I have never stuck a case with Imperial Die Wax! |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 5:43:36 PM EDT
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Imperial has been the best i've used but you can't do a ton of cases at one time for the progressive. Imperial is the go to for my single stage precision work.
Re using a bag for brass and spray lubes has made a huge improvement but for the cost the home made lanolin and alcohol mixture in a cheap pump bottle and a plastic bag has beat all my spray lubes and way cheaper. at 10:1 i'm still on my first tiny bottle of lanolin and done thousands of .223 |
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Posted: 7/12/2016 6:27:12 PM EDT
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One Shot sucks ass. I've been using Frankford Arsenal case lube for fifteen years. No stuck cases.
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Posted: 7/12/2016 8:11:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rob01]
[#16]
Been using Hornady One Shot for years. Never a stuck case in tens of thousands of cases in a bunch of different calibers from .223 to 300WM. I use the zip lock bag method of layering the cases in the bag on the bench, spraying, rolling around, spray again and then dump into a cardboard box and load the bag up again. Can do hundreds in no time at all. You have to let them propellant evaporate like the directions say before sizing. Takes about a minute or so. Also use enough.
Here's a little video I made for a friend who was getting into loading. It's not professional as you will see LOL but the way I do all my cases. |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 12:04:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
Yeah I figured my OneShot cost one time and it came out to about 1/3 of a cent per case. Well worth it for the even distribution, time savings, lack of mess and no need to remove the lube if left to dry. That is me in the video, so 1/3 of a cent for that usage. That's the trick with one shot, you have to use a lot of it. After watching your vid, I see I was never using enough. You are moving some cases too. Ever pinch that finger? |
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Posted: 7/13/2016 12:07:53 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IceBerg1163:
No problems with it here. |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 5:47:08 AM EDT
[#19]
I use one shot for pistol brass.
I prefer a lanolin based lube for rifle brass. |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 6:08:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cruze5]
[#20]
I picked up my forster press from Cabelas today. looked at the brass case waxes and the only one available was from Hornady.
I will try this on the 300 WM and hopefully this problem should be solved! I still have 2-3 cans of the spray I will use that up eventually |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2016 7:37:04 AM EDT
[#21]
Never had a problem with it
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USA
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Posted: 7/14/2016 10:32:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: greenheadcaller]
[#22]
This is the answer, the end.
One 12 oz bottle of RED BOTTLE HEET from auto zone, one oz of Liquid Lanolin ... best, and cheapest, lube I have ever used. Don't get sucked into the 99% vs 91% vs some other % alcohol and waste brain cells ..... just go get a $2 bottle of RED BOTTLE IsoHEET from autozone ....it is 99%....and a bottle of Liquid Lanolin and mix it 12 parts ISO to 1 part LL. Yes, it's that easy...the thread tells the story. Used to use One Shot .... yea, I could make it work, but for me and the quantities I run, it doesn't compare to the bootleg stuff and it is certainly more expensive. Caution ...if you are used to using One Shot and try the bootleg .... you will find you will want to use, and will only need to use, A LOT less product. A little goes a long way, and it works great. Here is one of the dozen or so video's about it .... this shows how a little goes a long way. I use an empty gallon plastic ice cream container (or a cardboard box) to swirl and spray them in (which also sets up some of the necks). ymmv, but I doubt it, try it and you won't go back imo |
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Posted: 7/14/2016 11:59:51 AM EDT
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Frankford Arsenal spray. Been using it for 15 years now. The only stuck case was a .223 where I was teaching a teen how to reload rifle cases. He'd been loading pistol for his dad from since he was little, ( live across the street ), and he was wanting to know how to load for his AR. With the Frandford stuff, you have to wait a minute or so or it will dent cases, also, you need to load a lubed case and then a couple of non lubed ones, then a lubed one, and repeat or you can dent the shoulder. I make one squirt on each side of a loading tray, then use the method above. It works well. The kid was doing it and lost count and loaded four unlubed cases and stuck one.
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Posted: 7/14/2016 11:46:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Pitch it and get the Dillon lube.
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Posted: 7/15/2016 9:11:22 PM EDT
[#25]
I use spray lube for pistol cases, even though I use carbide dies. It smooths the operation considerably.
Imperial Sizing Die Wax is the only lube I use on bottle-necked cases for over ten years now. .223 seems to get away with using spray lubes because of the small diameter being resized. I would not recommend any spray lube for Lake City 7.62x51mm brass. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2016 10:54:48 AM EDT
[#26]
I never get stuck cases, ever. Use pure lanolin liquid and 91% isopropyl alcohol. You can use 70% but you have to shake vigourously before each use. 91's just better. I make case lube for around 40 bucks a gallon now. A gallon lasts me a couple years even at my extremely high loading volume. Place brass in a ziplok bag, spray a few squirts of lanolin lube, shake and stir, let sit for a few minutes to dry, size.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 1:04:10 PM EDT
[#27]
reloaded yesterday morning and this morning for about 3 hours each day. used Hornady wax and its night and day difference in FL sizing cases
there is not even a chance of getting stuck in the reloading die. I tried the RCBS rockchucker and my new forster coax press. same successful results |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 3:36:35 PM EDT
[#28]
The hornady wax is what I use. That stuff is incredible. I put a dab on my fingers and run them thru my bin of pistol brass before they hit the Dillon and sizing is much easier.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2016 12:07:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RWEIII:
You have to shake it...... I put them in a plastic gallon ziplock, spray, roll them around, good to go. Keep the bag for next batch. Never had a stuck case with Hornady spray lube... I've never had an issue doing this exactly. I'll do a couple hundred 223 in the bag at once. If they seem a little harder to size than usual, just give them another shot. Reuse that bag forever if you can. The more it builds up, the less spray you'll need. |
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Posted: 8/2/2016 1:00:53 PM EDT
[#30]
One shot works great for pistol. Had a lot of stuck 223 and ripped rims. Went back to using the RCBS lanolin spray for 223
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Posted: 8/3/2016 9:54:30 PM EDT
[#31]
i have switched to Imperial even on my dillion ill never use anything else now.
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Posted: 8/4/2016 8:32:17 PM EDT
[#32]
One Shot for pistol.
Dillon spray lube for rifle. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/26/2016 11:46:02 AM EDT
[#33]
Hmmm. I've never used lube on my straight walled pistol and have only used one-shot on for rifle .223/5.56 - .308 I can count on 2 fingers how many stuck rifle cases I've had over the past 20 years.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2016 9:51:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Originally Posted By cruze5:
or does this lube give you more stuck cases than any other product? the weekend before last i got a 223 and 300 win mag stuck in full length sizer dies. i follow the directions for both the lube and the sizing dies for my press
i would rather not use wax. any other products you would recommend? I AGREE! But I still use it... I like Dillon spray allot too! I use it cause its convent. But I think I found a better replacement. I recently tried ROYAL form Midway. WOW this is almost as good as imperial Sizing wax!! I think I have bought my last one-shit!! Imperial is hands down the best I have found... BUT its applied with fingers and simply not as convenient. I will ALWAYS use it for case forming!! But for regular resizing, no. Give this Roy a try next time you can get some. plus it smells great! http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/782240/sharp-shoot-r-royal-case-sizing-lube-5-oz-aerosol?cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Reloading+-+Metallic+Reloading+Equipment+(Not+Presses)-_-Sharp+Shoot+R-_-782240&gclid=Cj0KEQjw7Ne_BRDRmP2ojKfzv98BEiQAPuqPyQ9fAfyUDOD3SQfuIU7MJU-RTq7QoC5B-fo6rq1JQ0saAsVp8P8HAQ CW |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 10/31/2016 9:59:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Tried one shot a bunch of different ways and I still got stuck cases. Switched to a lube pad and haven't had any since.
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Posted: 10/31/2016 11:40:55 PM EDT
[#36]
I switched from Imperial to One Shot.
Never had an issue with it at all. It works. Read the directions. If you refuse to read directions and are reloading, you need to stop and reassess whether this is a hobby or a discipline. |
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Posted: 11/1/2016 12:14:52 PM EDT
[#37]
Used it for nearly a decade. Never had a stuck case. 7 types of rifle case over 20K+ reloads
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Posted: 11/1/2016 1:08:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2016 3:04:56 PM EDT
[#39]
HOS best known as Hornady One Stuck! Of course, people do not read the directions, and this probably leads to the issues probably for the most part.
The best and only use for HOS is a light mist of pistol cases before putting them in the case feeder. I use a variation of Shake and Bake when applying Dillon Spray lube. I use a box and mist a fog into the box and close the lids. Then shake and then let the box set for a while. I do several boxes at the same time, so by the time the first one is done the first ones are ready to go. |
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Posted: 11/2/2016 6:04:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Follow directions and you have no problems with One Shot. What a novel idea!
Or don't and come on the internet and complain how crappy it is even though it was an end user issue. Yeah that's more fun. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2016 5:26:14 PM EDT
[#41]
I had stuck cases using the illustious Imperial Sizing Wax but never ever using lanolin paste from the hippie store.
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Posted: 11/24/2016 5:20:42 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sight:
I use the Dillon spray lube and a half-gallon bucket with a lid. Spray once, put the lid on and shake, then spray again. never had a problem with it. +1 One shot sucks. |
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Posted: 11/24/2016 5:46:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By greenheadcaller:
This is the answer, the end. One 12 oz bottle of RED BOTTLE HEET from auto zone, one oz of Liquid Lanolin ... best, and cheapest, lube I have ever used. Don't get sucked into the 99% vs 91% vs some other % alcohol and waste brain cells ..... just go get a $2 bottle of RED BOTTLE IsoHEET from autozone ....it is 99%....and a bottle of Liquid Lanolin and mix it 12 parts ISO to 1 part LL. Yes, it's that easy...the thread tells the story. Used to use One Shot .... yea, I could make it work, but for me and the quantities I run, it doesn't compare to the bootleg stuff and it is certainly more expensive. Caution ...if you are used to using One Shot and try the bootleg .... you will find you will want to use, and will only need to use, A LOT less product. A little goes a long way, and it works great. Here is one of the dozen or so video's about it .... this shows how a little goes a long way. I use an empty gallon plastic ice cream container (or a cardboard box) to swirl and spray them in (which also sets up some of the necks). ymmv, but I doubt it, try it and you won't go back imo I currently use one shot,and have had no problems. But I like cheaper. Txl |
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Posted: 11/24/2016 6:48:12 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By cruze5: or does this lube give you more stuck cases than any other product? the weekend before last i got a 223 and 300 win mag stuck in full length sizer dies. i follow the directions for both the lube and the sizing dies for my press i would rather not use wax. any other products you would recommend? Throw it in the trash. Use Dillon lube or roll your own. |
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Posted: 11/28/2016 1:25:38 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RWEIII:
You have to shake it...... I put them in a plastic gallon ziplock, spray, roll them around, good to go. Keep the bag for next batch. Never had a stuck case with Hornady spray lube... I tried this method over the last couple of weeks. One small can of One Shot did about 4000 Lake City .223 cases. No stuck cases. I went through two ziplock bags. 
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Posted: 11/28/2016 5:37:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ken914:
I tried this method over the last couple of weeks. One small can of One Shot did about 4000 Lake City .223 cases. No stuck cases. I went through two ziplock bags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ken914:
Originally Posted By RWEIII:
You have to shake it...... I put them in a plastic gallon ziplock, spray, roll them around, good to go. Keep the bag for next batch. Never had a stuck case with Hornady spray lube... I tried this method over the last couple of weeks. One small can of One Shot did about 4000 Lake City .223 cases. No stuck cases. I went through two ziplock bags. Keep using that same bag. It gets a nice lube coating inside. I have used the same bag for years LOL |
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Posted: 11/28/2016 5:38:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ken914]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Keep using that same bag. It gets a nice lube coating inside. I have used the same bag for years LOL Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By Ken914:
Originally Posted By RWEIII:
You have to shake it...... I put them in a plastic gallon ziplock, spray, roll them around, good to go. Keep the bag for next batch. Never had a stuck case with Hornady spray lube... I tried this method over the last couple of weeks. One small can of One Shot did about 4000 Lake City .223 cases. No stuck cases. I went through two ziplock bags. Keep using that same bag. It gets a nice lube coating inside. I have used the same bag for years LOL I poked a hole in the first one! I'm going to be more careful with the second one. |
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Posted: 11/28/2016 6:51:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ken914:
I poked a hole in the first one! I'm going to be more careful with the second one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ken914:
Originally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By Ken914:
Originally Posted By RWEIII:
You have to shake it...... I put them in a plastic gallon ziplock, spray, roll them around, good to go. Keep the bag for next batch. Never had a stuck case with Hornady spray lube... I tried this method over the last couple of weeks. One small can of One Shot did about 4000 Lake City .223 cases. No stuck cases. I went through two ziplock bags. Keep using that same bag. It gets a nice lube coating inside. I have used the same bag for years LOL I poked a hole in the first one! I'm going to be more careful with the second one. Try and find one of the larger, heavier bags like a freezer bag. They work better. Mine has split a little but some duct tape fixed her up LOL |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2016 9:13:44 PM EDT
[#49]
Works well with my 308 cases in an rcbs die
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Posted: 12/10/2016 2:15:16 PM EDT
[#50]
I use it for almost all my reloading.
I don't have any problems with it with rifle brass but I don't skimp on it. Use it correctly and it works fine. Try to pinch a penny and use too little, you will stick a case. |
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