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Posted: 8/8/2016 3:05:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GRB-36_FICON]
I'm looking at a semi-auto .308 platform and these companies caught me eye. What can people tell me about their rifles.
ETA I am open to other suggestions and have a $3400 budget FIRM. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/9/2016 6:56:26 AM EDT
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I have the 18" Seekins, and it's been excellent. Only a few hundred rounds down the tube so far, but it's been 100%, and I haven't been nice to it either.
Can't personally comment on the other two, other than they are great rifles as well. With some hunting, the SP10 can sometimes be found for a killer price (got mine on Black Friday), and comes with all the latest bells and whistles like ambi controls, good furniture, and good brake. |
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Posted: 8/9/2016 7:36:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2016 8:11:53 AM EDT
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Of those three, I would certainly get the Larue.
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USA
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Posted: 8/11/2016 7:07:09 AM EDT
[#4]
Larue all day, and he won't even sell one to me.
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USA
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Posted: 8/11/2016 7:29:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: UnknownPatriot]
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I agree with See2summit and everyone else so far on LaRue
My 20" LaRue OBR is my favorite but the PredatOBR is much more versatile. The tOBR retains the same repeatable accuracy you'd expect but drop in barrels and possible caliber changes really make it unique. Pack it up easily for a hunting trip or have multiple barrels for different scenarios. The tOBR is a 0moa rail but LaRue has 20moa mounts for your scope if you need it. I could go on about the tOBR. In a time when everyone is making AR rifles... LaRue has actually revolutionized the rifle. If I could only own one rifle it would be a tOBR. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:28:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Also check out GAP.
They put together tack drivers. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:19:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RANGER_556: Also check out GAP. They put together tack drivers. I have checked them out a little. Along with JP. There is a lot out there within my budget that makes it hard to choose. So far between this forum and a few others the leaders are GAP, JP, and LaRue |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 9:44:47 PM EDT
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What's your budget for optics, or is that part of it?
Any of those mentioned are great choices. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 11:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRRPF52: What's your budget for optics, or is that part of it? Any of those mentioned are great choices. I plan 1-1.5K, but scope will be purchaced later. BUIS will be purchaced for use, but I want to aquire rifle because i have wanted one for a while and want to get a good one in case Hillary get elected or dems take majority and try anti-gun bs. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2016 10:14:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hoser]
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I would grab a LaRue and call it good.
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Posted: 8/12/2016 10:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynhghr2001:
I have checked them out a little. Along with JP. There is a lot out there within my budget that makes it hard to choose. So far between this forum and a few others the leaders are GAP, JP, and LaRue Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynhghr2001:
Originally Posted By RANGER_556:
Also check out GAP. They put together tack drivers. I have checked them out a little. Along with JP. There is a lot out there within my budget that makes it hard to choose. So far between this forum and a few others the leaders are GAP, JP, and LaRue You honestly can't go wrong with any of those. |
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Posted: 8/13/2016 2:35:59 PM EDT
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I've been a LaRue guy for a while first starting with a 12" OBR in 5.56. I worked my way up to a 308 this year and luv this 20" tOBR.
Shoots pretty well too, 100y suppressed. 
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VT, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:21:22 AM EDT
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I would consider JP and GAP as well in that budget range.
Nothing will beat building your own or having one build in terms of price/performance though. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:05:42 PM EDT
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I absolutely agree with JP or GAP, but not your statement of building yourself. If you want a true precision AR10, I would have a complete built platform. Too many variables with the AR10 style.
I would search for the best deal and delivery between KAC, LaRue, GAP, and JP. Not in any particular order. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/30/2016 7:48:15 AM EDT
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What are your thoughts about glass, op?
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Posted: 8/30/2016 9:07:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UnknownPatriot: What are your thoughts about glass, op? Looking at Vortex and Leupold, however my bolt action .308 has a Nikon Buckmasters which I have had good experience with. |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 10:37:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/1/2016 4:48:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Potss:
I would consider JP and GAP as well in that budget range. Nothing will beat building your own or having one build in terms of price/performance though. Just getting reliability worked out is a major hurdle with assembling your own, especially with the lack of quality parts in some of the most overlooked areas of the gun on the large frame receivers. |
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Posted: 9/1/2016 4:52:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LRRPF52]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynhghr2001:
Looking at Vortex and Leupold, however my bolt action .308 has a Nikon Buckmasters which I have had good experience with. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynhghr2001:
Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot:
What are your thoughts about glass, op? Looking at Vortex and Leupold, however my bolt action .308 has a Nikon Buckmasters which I have had good experience with. For a large frame semi auto, there are only 2 proven choices for reliability if we are talking variable power: NightForce Vortex (upper lines, like Viper HS, Viper PST, Razor) Other manufacturers do not mount their lenses the way NF and Vortex do, so crap comes loose. I've seen it quite a few times now over the years. Many cut corners on gears with the brass alloy as well, so you lose repeatability after a while, and that's on the $400-$800 scopes in the market. For a large frame gas gun with the heavy BCG mass typical in AR10s, your optic is going to be beat to hell. |
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Posted: 9/6/2016 8:27:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sea2summit:
Well not all 762 but in my mind there isn't a question which to go with. <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps1ns5vpqm.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps1ns5vpqm.jpeg</a> <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdjzemhv9.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdjzemhv9.jpeg</a> <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsp2dad56n.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsp2dad56n.jpeg</a> 284m <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150325_154414_zpsrhvtdinf.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20150325_154414_zpsrhvtdinf.jpg</a> <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150215_141841_zpsa9eeb213.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20150215_141841_zpsa9eeb213.jpg</a> 8 & 9 year olds shooting off a tripod at 100m tAR and tOBR 16"s. <a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_091205_zps58dca12c.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20141225_091205_zps58dca12c.jpg</a> Took a picture the first time this happened, it's just boring now but I need to get in the MOA challenge as soon as I have time and ammo simultaneously 
<a href="http://s29.photobucket.com/user/sea2summit1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140507_175449_zpsd81d63ba.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/sea2summit1/Mobile%20Uploads/20140507_175449_zpsd81d63ba.jpg</a> What tripod is she using? |
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Posted: 9/6/2016 9:02:26 PM EDT
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Manfrotto
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Posted: 9/7/2016 1:17:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for the support y'all, just here trying to make it easier to hit stuff.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2016 9:35:23 PM EDT
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Larue .260./GAP 260. JP/Seekins. All sexy beasts. But the Larue, Id mail my left nut to Mark if he was into that.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2016 12:52:00 PM EDT
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I own a JP CTR02 ,223 16" and a LaRue tOBR 7.62 18". I consider both works of Art. The JP I use in 3 gun competition and that joker runs like a top. A lot of people would cringe the way I treat that thing for the money I have in it. The tOBR I use for long range and hunting. A few guys ask.... ain't that thing a little heavy to hunt with? I love that thing so much I don't even notice it. My tOBR came with a 3 shot test target that was .210 with Federal GMM 175's. I've been pretty close to that a couple times at distance. I've never tried to group my JP, but have been really happy all the way to 800 with it in Logan, NM it this year.
If you start leaning toward the JP .308 make sure you want/like the side charger. I'm a lefty so that thing is useless to me, but they sure are Purdy. My vote is either of those 2 for you. If you have any specific questions on either of those let me know. monk |
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USA
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Posted: 9/28/2016 11:04:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JAG2955]
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The GAP-10 has the majority of the parts made by Seekins. We had a Seekins SP-10 at the shop, and I called Seekins to ask what kind of barrel it was, and they told me a Rock Creek barrel. So the only difference may be the type of barrel (Bartlein) and the rollmark on the GAP-10.
I was in the same situation about 6 months ago, I knew I wanted an AR-10 style, and I had it down between the Seekins and the tOBR. I wound up finding a tOBR, lightly used, about two hours from me. Worth the time and money. I'm a huge fan, but right now it's a little under glassed with a NF 2.5-10, and I'd like a 5-22 on it. |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 12:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alpha0815:
I absolutely agree with JP or GAP, but not your statement of building yourself. If you want a true precision AR10, I would have a complete built platform. Too many variables with the AR10 style. I would search for the best deal and delivery between KAC, LaRue, GAP, and JP. Not in any particular order. +1 to this post. I've had plenty of friends build their own and have to tinker way too much to get them to run correctly, especially when you throw a suppressor. I used to own a Noveske N6 and an Armalite AR-10 but, sold those for a SR25 and Larue OBR because I could not get the former to run worth a darn suppressed. The latter two chug along great and exceed my personal accuracy standard, especially the OBR. I've shot quite a few others and given your budget and needs, the Larue seems like a perfect fit. |
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Posted: 10/17/2016 7:55:35 AM EDT
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Quote Historyda-da-damn. It could have been 6.5CM. Well, even George Washington screwed up with the Whiskey Rebellion. 
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MN, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2016 2:16:01 PM EDT
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I don't have any of these... but I do have gun parts from each. With just scope mounts, all I can say about Larue is their mounts (used with high quality products) align everything perfectly. Just great mounts and do all Larue claims.
Seekins... I personally avoid. They take design liberties with part size and fit that cause problems or at least inconveniences. Wilson Combat... make/contract good, squared away stuff with good quality and QC. No frills, but also no machining marks. Standard finishes, but quality that definitely seem well done. Not really any money into R&D, only down the cost of parts and normal business stuff. I'd be suspicious if they put their prices to match other manufacturers that actually do R&D on design. IDK. |
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Posted: 10/17/2016 10:42:25 PM EDT
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I have a plither of .308 rifles, MIA, REPR and a 18" Larue OBR. If I had to pick one it would be the OBR for various reasons. I like the ergonomics of the REPR, especially the side charging handle, the MIA is fun but its fairly old technology. The OBR is well made, accurate, and reliable. I put a PRS stock on it and once adjusted it is very comfortable. It shoots better than I can with it but I am learning. I have an old collection of Winchester M70 supergrades that are my pride and joy, but if I had to take one rifle the OBR would be by my side. You cannot go wrong with it.
Now what is this .260 thing Mark is showing off? |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2016 5:07:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 77Bronc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRRPF52:
For a large frame semi auto, there are only 2 proven choices for reliability if we are talking variable power: NightForce Vortex (upper lines, like Viper HS, Viper PST, Razor) Other manufacturers do not mount their lenses the way NF and Vortex do, so crap comes loose. I've seen it quite a few times now over the years. Many cut corners on gears with the brass alloy as well, so you lose repeatability after a while, and that's on the $400-$800 scopes in the market. For a large frame gas gun with the heavy BCG mass typical in AR10s, your optic is going to be beat to hell. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRRPF52:
Originally Posted By flynhghr2001:
Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot:
What are your thoughts about glass, op? Looking at Vortex and Leupold, however my bolt action .308 has a Nikon Buckmasters which I have had good experience with. For a large frame semi auto, there are only 2 proven choices for reliability if we are talking variable power: NightForce Vortex (upper lines, like Viper HS, Viper PST, Razor) Other manufacturers do not mount their lenses the way NF and Vortex do, so crap comes loose. I've seen it quite a few times now over the years. Many cut corners on gears with the brass alloy as well, so you lose repeatability after a while, and that's on the $400-$800 scopes in the market. For a large frame gas gun with the heavy BCG mass typical in AR10s, your optic is going to be beat to hell. Just out of curiosity, the method of construction used by USO is sub par compared to the two manufacturers you mentioned? 77 |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2016 6:42:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RANGER_556:
Also check out GAP. They put together tack drivers. I shot my first ever 1/2" group the other day with a GAP Gladus . I shot a GAP 10 as well. It was a great gun, but I was just not comfortable with how my buddy had it set up They do a lot of out sourcing and if I remember right from what I was told Seekins actually makes their receivers and hand guards for the GAP 10. I own a LaRue Stealth upper and plan on owning a rifle one of these days too, but if I had to choose I would go with GAP just because they are made in my home town and that's something that means a lot to me. |
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