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I'm kind of torn. I can snag a Tikka for roughly $800 and a RPR for $1300. It would be for me to get into long range shooting, paper punching and ringing steel. I'd also probably use it on pigs at a long range to just for kicks. I'm getting into reloading this year as well and would reload for either, so the .260 vs 6.5 is a non-factor. And the $500 price difference would fund a nice stock or get me started on the way to a decent chassis.
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Tikka with a chassis. $1,400. And needs a $60 AICS mag. Ruger Precision Rifle $1,300. And uses
In the end, I believe the RPR will have more aftermarket support. It already does. |
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Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Tikka with a chassis. $1,400. And needs a $60 AICS mag. Ruger Precision Rifle $1,300. And uses In the end, I believe the RPR will have more aftermarket support. It already does. View Quote I agree with that...but my question is...does it have more aftermarket support because it needs it? |
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Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Tikka with a chassis. $1,400. And needs a $60 AICS mag. Ruger Precision Rifle $1,300. And uses In the end, I believe the RPR will have more aftermarket support. It already does. View Quote Selling off the factory bottom metal and mag offsets the price difference and mag cost. Tikkas have a decent amount of aftermarket support, but part of the draw is you don't have to replace everything on the rifle to have an excellent shooter. |
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Originally Posted By dyezak:
I agree with that...but my question is...does it have more aftermarket support because it needs it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dyezak:
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
Tikka with a chassis. $1,400. And needs a $60 AICS mag. Ruger Precision Rifle $1,300. And uses In the end, I believe the RPR will have more aftermarket support. It already does. I agree with that...but my question is...does it have more aftermarket support because it needs it? Nope. All of the upgrades I did on mine weren't needed and added no more accuracy to the gun. Just things I liked more. Muzzle break, grip, bolt shroud, and Mlok handguard (Vs Keymod). Another thing is ammo. I have 3 local suppliers with 6.5 Creedmoor. I've never seen 260 and would have to order all of it. |
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Why not a Tikka CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor?
http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXC382-Tikka-Tikka-T3x-CTR-65-Creedmoor-200--barrel-MPN-JR.aspx |
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Originally Posted By m6z:
Why not a Tikka CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor? http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXC382-Tikka-Tikka-T3x-CTR-65-Creedmoor-200--barrel-MPN-JR.aspx View Quote I really want that rifle. It will be my Christmas present to myself . |
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Originally Posted By Iggyort:
I really want that rifle. It will be my Christmas present to myself . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Iggyort:
Originally Posted By m6z:
Why not a Tikka CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor? http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXC382-Tikka-Tikka-T3x-CTR-65-Creedmoor-200--barrel-MPN-JR.aspx I really want that rifle. It will be my Christmas present to myself . Same. Didn't even know it existed until today. |
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Originally Posted By m6z:
Why not a Tikka CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor? http://www.eurooptic.com/JRTXC382-Tikka-Tikka-T3x-CTR-65-Creedmoor-200--barrel-MPN-JR.aspx View Quote This. End of thread. I just picked one up and slapped on a 3.5-15 Nxs |
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ADD is a problem here I see .
I'm asking about a Tikka T3 because they can be had for cheap right now. Not a T3x, because they are more expensive and put them in spitting distance of the RPR. For the cost difference between the T3x and the RPR I'd take the RPR all day every day. |
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Originally Posted By dyezak:
ADD is a problem here I see . I'm asking about a Tikka T3 because they can be had for cheap right now. Not a T3x, because they are more expensive and put them in spitting distance of the RPR. For the cost difference between the T3x and the RPR I'd take the RPR all day every day. View Quote lol. I'd still get the Tikka T3 over the RPR. The RPR just seems cheap to me. I really wanted to like it, but they missed the mark to keep the price point in my opinion. I do think the improvements in the T3x are worth the additional $200, but I'm not planning to change out the stock. The different grips and integral rail are a big plus to me. |
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800 for the Tikka is a good price. 1300 for the RPR is really really high.
I'm biased towards the RPR, but not at those price points. I would go Tikka in this case. If the RPR was 900-1000 then it may be a different story. |
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I have handled a few RPR's and I think you get more for your money with the T3 CTR. I also feel that the use of an AR-15 style handguard on the RPR was a mistake as unlike the AIAX rifles where the forend is fasted very securely I just don't trust the RPR handguard to stand up to a 15lb+ rifle on a bipod for very long.
I believe that the TRG magazines are double feed though which is nice compared to the single feed AICS magazines. Honestly, at this point I would buy the CTR and then spend the $500 you save on the RPR for a simple reloading setup. |
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
800 for the Tikka is a good price. 1300 for the RPR is really really high. I'm biased towards the RPR, but not at those price points. I would go Tikka in this case. If the RPR was 900-1000 then it may be a different story. View Quote This is what I'm thinking too. A RPR at $900 would be an easy choice. But the CTR at $800 on clearance is what I can find. I'll likely go with that. |
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I don't quite get it, I see so many people getting the RPR's and adding a bunch of shit to them and/or re-barreling them (companies like LRI are making drop-in barrels for the RPR's). By the time the rifle is purchased, and a new barrel is screwed on, you're getting very deep into custom rifle build territory in terms of finances.
I'd grab the CTR for sure. Takes detachable mags, can have a brake added, and has an outstanding trigger from the factory. I really like the RPR's but I know how well Tikka's are machined and have never known one person who had an issue with their Tikka. I do have a friend who had to send his RPR (.308) back to Ruger because it would only produce 2-3" groups. In fact, he never even saw that to an end result as he purchased an aftermarket 6.5 barrel and spun it on there. To give the RPR some credit in another regard, have another friend who has just over 4k rounds on his 6.5 RPR factory barrel and he said it is still shooting under a minute. That's a good amount of 6.5 rounds for that barrel to still be producing those groups. |
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Anything made by Sako or associates is going to be better than a Ruger any day all day! That being said I do own a couple Ruger revolvers and 10/22's but I would not trust my long distance endevors to a Ruger rifle over the Tika.
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Originally Posted By Ryo:
I'm extremely happy with my T3X.. Here's my first 5 shots from my Tikka 260 T3X CTR. This is why I would choose Tikka... http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Ryo_Shared/20160827_212557.jpg View Quote Nice shooting. Ammo? |
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Originally Posted By Ryo:
I'm extremely happy with my T3X.. Here's my first 5 shots from my Tikka 260 T3X CTR. This is why I would choose Tikka... http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Ryo_Shared/20160827_212557.jpg View Quote You missed the bullseye. |
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I can't believe no one has mentioned the trigger on the Tikka. Not that it needed it. But I bought the Yo Dave's trigger spring for mine. It took an already excellent out of the box trigger and made it extraordinary. Everyone who snaps on it can't believe it. Oh, and it shoots little holes also :)
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This is a bad question and i dont mean to hikack your thread but...
What about a savage 10 fcp sr in 6.5 creedmoor with 20-24" barrel? Theyre only 580$.... And include 10 rnd dbm and 1 piece rail? Plus you can replace the barrel by yourself, i dont know if you can do that with the tikka Also they have the accu trigger and accu stock and seem to be solid to my untrained eye? |
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Where are these Tikkas for $800. Euro Optice price is 1k????
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Originally Posted By Wanabgunsmith:
This is a bad question and i dont mean to hikack your thread but... What about a savage 10 fcp sr in 6.5 creedmoor with 20-24" barrel? Theyre only 580$.... And include 10 rnd dbm and 1 piece rail? Plus you can replace the barrel by yourself, i dont know if you can do that with the tikka Also they have the accu trigger and accu stock and seem to be solid to my untrained eye? View Quote I'm partial to the .260 cartridge due to Lapua brass. The RPR in creedmore is only an option because the rifle itself is a good buy. I did check out the savage 10t in creed today and holy shit is that thing heavy compared to the tikka. Plus I'd need to get the barrel threaded, with shipping that's closing in on the tikka price. |
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Originally Posted By dyezak:
I'm partial to the .260 cartridge due to Lapua brass. The RPR in creedmore is only an option because the rifle itself is a good buy. I did check out the savage 10t in creed today and holy shit is that thing heavy compared to the tikka. Plus I'd need to get the barrel threaded, with shipping that's closing in on the tikka price. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dyezak:
Originally Posted By Wanabgunsmith:
This is a bad question and i dont mean to hikack your thread but... What about a savage 10 fcp sr in 6.5 creedmoor with 20-24" barrel? Theyre only 580$.... And include 10 rnd dbm and 1 piece rail? Plus you can replace the barrel by yourself, i dont know if you can do that with the tikka Also they have the accu trigger and accu stock and seem to be solid to my untrained eye? I'm partial to the .260 cartridge due to Lapua brass. The RPR in creedmore is only an option because the rifle itself is a good buy. I did check out the savage 10t in creed today and holy shit is that thing heavy compared to the tikka. Plus I'd need to get the barrel threaded, with shipping that's closing in on the tikka price. Well, nobody told me about the existance of the Savage 10BA Stealth. It's like a cross between the Ruger Precision, and the Savage 10t. It's effectively a 10t in a MDT LSS XL chassis that has been customized, with the barrel already threaded and fluted to reduce weight. Best part...$900. And since it's the Savage action I can effectively switch barrels/calibers at home. Damn the first world problems. |
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Glad to hear that the Tikka T3x are finally starting to ship. Maybe i can find a normal Tikka T3 for a descent price now. I don't care about the new stock on the Tikka T3x as it will get replaced anyway. You really cant go wrong with a Tikka. But you never mentioned what model you were looking at. I just wish i had the money for one of the Tikka t3 varmints in 223 when buds was selling them for $523 after they stopped being imported.
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Originally Posted By MDStroup:
Glad to hear that the Tikka T3x are finally starting to ship. Maybe i can find a normal Tikka T3 for a descent price now. I don't care about the new stock on the Tikka T3x as it will get replaced anyway. You really cant go wrong with a Tikka. But you never mentioned what model you were looking at. I just wish i had the money for one of the Tikka t3 varmints in 223 when buds was selling them for $523 after they stopped being imported. View Quote It's in the title. T3 CTR 260 But I think the Savage 10BA Stealth is going to win due to price. I'll eventually have to rebarrel the Savage to get the 260 chambering I'm looking for, but I can do that at home on the Savage. |
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Ruger by a landslide. Not even close
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Originally Posted By higginsworksforme:
Originally Posted By cone256:
Ruger by a landslide. Not even close Why? The mag issue is obvious. The fact most parts on the Ruger are AR compatible and use the same tools as an AR makes it a no brainer for me. I can use AR barrels, stocks, grips, handguards, etc. The ability to upgrade as I need to at prices and economy of scale the AR brings is great |
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I found a SS T3 CTR in my preferred .260 REM today for $900. I'm going to FO on it. I should have it by Monday since I'm flying out for work tomorrow and won't get home until Sunday night.
The caliber along with price is/was the deciding factors. It's hard to pass this up for $900 in the caliber I want. Everything else would have been a compromise with caliber and I would have been jonesing to rebarrel to .260 anyhow, which adds at least $500 to any other option. I could get the non-stainless for $800, but the stainless version for $900 is a real steal. Everywhere else they are running $1150. You can find the blued versions for $950 just about everywhere. So here I am now waiting for my rifle and a case of Federal Gold Medal Match! |
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View Quote That's exactly what I just bought. |
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Had both at same time. Tikka t3x with the krg chassis stayed. Trigger and bolt throw vastly superior. Ergos better than rpr.
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Originally Posted By dyezak:
I found a SS T3 CTR in my preferred .260 REM today for $900. I'm going to FO on it. I should have it by Monday since I'm flying out for work tomorrow and won't get home until Sunday night. The caliber along with price is/was the deciding factors. It's hard to pass this up for $900 in the caliber I want. Everything else would have been a compromise with caliber and I would have been jonesing to rebarrel to .260 anyhow, which adds at least $500 to any other option. I could get the non-stainless for $800, but the stainless version for $900 is a real steal. Everywhere else they are running $1150. You can find the blued versions for $950 just about everywhere. So here I am now waiting for my rifle and a case of Federal Gold Medal Match! View Quote I think you made a wise choice. I would have went with the Tikka T3, if it weren't for the fact that I had a RPR already on order since early this year and had already started to buy parts for it. I am actually still on that waiting list for the price of $999 because I refuse to over pay for the RPR, but already had $1000+ invested into it already; optics, AR height optic mount, handguard etc. I personally really like the KRG chassis. I have the W3C, and would have went with a Tikka T3 w/ KRG Xray if I went that route. |
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Originally Posted By Winniethepooh:
Nice shooting. Ammo? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Winniethepooh:
Originally Posted By Ryo:
I'm extremely happy with my T3X.. Here's my first 5 shots from my Tikka 260 T3X CTR. This is why I would choose Tikka... http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Ryo_Shared/20160827_212557.jpg Nice shooting. Ammo? Sorry, haven't been looking here for a while.. They were my reloads with H4350 43.5gr, Nosler CC 140gr bullet in Lapua brass. I used my Dillon 550B with Redding Competition dies, but manually dropped the powder from my RCBS chargemaster. I also tried using Berger's 140gr VLD and it had the same awesome grouping. One thing that I noticed that my loads from 41gr up to 43.5gr, the grouping was good. Also among the different power drop amount, they were close to each other, hence I couldn't really find a better load amount the load amounts. |
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Originally Posted By vectorsc:
Had both at same time. Tikka t3x with the krg chassis stayed. Trigger and bolt throw vastly superior. Ergos better than rpr. View Quote KRG chassis are pretty awesome. I have one for my Rem 700 and love it. If my T3X wasn't going to be my hunting rifle, I would likely get a KRG W3C chassis. |
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This reminds me that I wanted to type up a post about Federal Gold Medal Match ammo.
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Originally Posted By Ryo:
I've been meaning to buy some of that stuff for the 260. Have you tried it yet? I've always liked the GMM 175gr 308 for my Rem 700. Very accurate stuff. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryo:
Originally Posted By dyezak:
This reminds me that I wanted to type up a post about Federal Gold Medal Match ammo. I've been meaning to buy some of that stuff for the 260. Have you tried it yet? I've always liked the GMM 175gr 308 for my Rem 700. Very accurate stuff. Read this post |
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Originally Posted By Ryo:
Sorry, haven't been looking here for a while.. They were my reloads with H4350 43.5gr, Nosler CC 140gr bullet in Lapua brass. I used my Dillon 550B with Redding Competition dies, but manually dropped the powder from my RCBS chargemaster. I also tried using Berger's 140gr VLD and it had the same awesome grouping. One thing that I noticed that my loads from 41gr up to 43.5gr, the grouping was good. Also among the different power drop amount, they were close to each other, hence I couldn't really find a better load amount the load amounts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryo:
Originally Posted By Winniethepooh:
Originally Posted By Ryo:
I'm extremely happy with my T3X.. Here's my first 5 shots from my Tikka 260 T3X CTR. This is why I would choose Tikka... http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Ryo_Shared/20160827_212557.jpg Nice shooting. Ammo? Sorry, haven't been looking here for a while.. They were my reloads with H4350 43.5gr, Nosler CC 140gr bullet in Lapua brass. I used my Dillon 550B with Redding Competition dies, but manually dropped the powder from my RCBS chargemaster. I also tried using Berger's 140gr VLD and it had the same awesome grouping. One thing that I noticed that my loads from 41gr up to 43.5gr, the grouping was good. Also among the different power drop amount, they were close to each other, hence I couldn't really find a better load amount the load amounts. So if reloading anyway why not 6.5X55 being that Tikka only offers one action length? Not offered in CTR? I need to make a decision, but for me I prefer the most capable hunting caliber, and from what I have read the 6.5 Swede has the case capacity to properly launch 160 grain bullets. Probably not perfect for elk but the Europeans have been killing moose with them for a long time. I know .260 has a lot of fans, but what is max bullet weight? |
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Originally Posted By flinch08:
So if reloading anyway why not 6.5X55 being that Tikka only offers one action length? Not offered in CTR? I need to make a decision, but for me I prefer the most capable hunting caliber, and from what I have read the 6.5 Swede has the case capacity to properly launch 160 grain bullets. Probably not perfect for elk but the Europeans have been killing moose with them for a long time. I know .260 has a lot of fans, but what is max bullet weight? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By flinch08:
Originally Posted By Ryo:
Originally Posted By Winniethepooh:
Originally Posted By Ryo:
I'm extremely happy with my T3X.. Here's my first 5 shots from my Tikka 260 T3X CTR. This is why I would choose Tikka... http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Ryo_Shared/20160827_212557.jpg Nice shooting. Ammo? Sorry, haven't been looking here for a while.. They were my reloads with H4350 43.5gr, Nosler CC 140gr bullet in Lapua brass. I used my Dillon 550B with Redding Competition dies, but manually dropped the powder from my RCBS chargemaster. I also tried using Berger's 140gr VLD and it had the same awesome grouping. One thing that I noticed that my loads from 41gr up to 43.5gr, the grouping was good. Also among the different power drop amount, they were close to each other, hence I couldn't really find a better load amount the load amounts. So if reloading anyway why not 6.5X55 being that Tikka only offers one action length? Not offered in CTR? I need to make a decision, but for me I prefer the most capable hunting caliber, and from what I have read the 6.5 Swede has the case capacity to properly launch 160 grain bullets. Probably not perfect for elk but the Europeans have been killing moose with them for a long time. I know .260 has a lot of fans, but what is max bullet weight? Case length is only one thing, pressure capability is another. 6.5 Swede is 51,000 psi MAX, 260 REM is 60,000 psi max. You can hit a max pressure load in a 260 rem case, they aren't that uncommon. And if you are looking for a max pressure 6.5 round the 6.5x47 Lapua is a 63,500 psi max round. Not saying the 6.5x47 Lapua is more capable than the 6.5 Swede based just on max load psi, but I am saying it is another factor. Then of course shoulder angle is another thing. 6.5 Swede is a 35deg shoulder. 260 REM is 40deg. 6.5x47 Lapua is 30deg. I don't know what that means but I know it impacts stuff . Anyhow, I'm basically saying don't just pay attention to one factor too much, you won't see the forest by looking at a single tree. |
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Originally Posted By flinch08:
So if reloading anyway why not 6.5X55 being that Tikka only offers one action length? Not offered in CTR? I need to make a decision, but for me I prefer the most capable hunting caliber, and from what I have read the 6.5 Swede has the case capacity to properly launch 160 grain bullets. Probably not perfect for elk but the Europeans have been killing moose with them for a long time. I know .260 has a lot of fans, but what is max bullet weight? View Quote I chose 260 due to wanting to limit the # of cartridges I reload. I had all that I need for reloading 260 so I went that route. I think 6.5 would be a fine load.. was considering going to that, but 260 was good enough for my needs so I went that route. |
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Wow. Good stuff in here.
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Originally Posted By dyezak:
Well, nobody told me about the existance of the Savage 10BA Stealth. It's like a cross between the Ruger Precision, and the Savage 10t. It's effectively a 10t in a MDT LSS XL chassis that has been customized, with the barrel already threaded and fluted to reduce weight. Best part...$900. And since it's the Savage action I can effectively switch barrels/calibers at home. Damn the first world problems. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dyezak:
Originally Posted By dyezak:
Originally Posted By Wanabgunsmith:
This is a bad question and i dont mean to hikack your thread but... What about a savage 10 fcp sr in 6.5 creedmoor with 20-24" barrel? Theyre only 580$.... And include 10 rnd dbm and 1 piece rail? Plus you can replace the barrel by yourself, i dont know if you can do that with the tikka Also they have the accu trigger and accu stock and seem to be solid to my untrained eye? I'm partial to the .260 cartridge due to Lapua brass. The RPR in creedmore is only an option because the rifle itself is a good buy. I did check out the savage 10t in creed today and holy shit is that thing heavy compared to the tikka. Plus I'd need to get the barrel threaded, with shipping that's closing in on the tikka price. Well, nobody told me about the existance of the Savage 10BA Stealth. It's like a cross between the Ruger Precision, and the Savage 10t. It's effectively a 10t in a MDT LSS XL chassis that has been customized, with the barrel already threaded and fluted to reduce weight. Best part...$900. And since it's the Savage action I can effectively switch barrels/calibers at home. Damn the first world problems. You have to go to grab a gun, search for savage 10 fcp-sr Its got accu stock accu trigger, and threaded + fluted. Idk the weight on mine but it seems about average to me Im shooting sub minute @ 100 with very low sd/es. 2700fps out of a 24" barrel and its not a hot load with 42.6gr imr 4451 and 140 hybrids Its 585$ after shipping and works very well for me out to 1200 yards. I just added a brake, bipod, and scope. 1000$ rifle thats very capable. (230$ primary arms 4-14ffp mil/mil) |
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You have to go to grab a gun, search for savage 10 fcp-sr
Its got accu stock accu trigger, and threaded + fluted. Idk the weight on mine but it seems about average to me Im shooting sub minute @ 100 with very low sd/es. 2700fps out of a 24" barrel and its not a hot load with 42.6gr imr 4451 and 140 hybrids Its 585$ after shipping and works very well for me out to 1200 yards. I just added a brake, bipod, and scope. 1000$ rifle thats very capable. (230$ primary arms 4-14ffp mil/mil) View Quote Great Advice! Of the two choices given, The Tikka T3 CTR 260 is the best choice. Not a big fan of the RPR myself, sold my 308 version. The 260 Rem was the original, precision 6.5mm and it will shoot with the best calibers today when properly handloaded. |
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