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Link Posted: 9/24/2021 8:33:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
Public traffic data says it's impacting.

Down 6% unique visitors in 90 days
Down 27% page views.

That's significant, it will depend on how much add revenue he generates vs subscriptions, but even if subscriptions cover short term revenue, with page views dropping, less visitors, hell get less paid subscribers.

Those will spill over to other sites who have a chance to convert free users to paid subscribers.

Be interesting to see if this slide continues

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Arfcom is down 12% according to them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 8:46:17 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/24/2021 12:51:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By iiibdsiil:


Arfcom is down 12% according to them.
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Originally Posted By iiibdsiil:
Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
Public traffic data says it's impacting.

Down 6% unique visitors in 90 days
Down 27% page views.

That's significant, it will depend on how much add revenue he generates vs subscriptions, but even if subscriptions cover short term revenue, with page views dropping, less visitors, hell get less paid subscribers.

Those will spill over to other sites who have a chance to convert free users to paid subscribers.

Be interesting to see if this slide continues

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Arfcom is down 12% according to them.



also not a surprise,  based on the number of users who aren't renewing, banned,  post sliding etc.  It's pretty easy to see.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 12:59:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob01:


Yup the Hide is dead. Lol Those stats never shift at all. I wish I had a nickel for every time people screamed the Hide is dead after he has made changes. Lol
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
Public traffic data says it's impacting.

Down 6% unique visitors in 90 days
Down 27% page views.

That's significant, it will depend on how much add revenue he generates vs subscriptions, but even if subscriptions cover short term revenue, with page views dropping, less visitors, hell get less paid subscribers.

Those will spill over to other sites who have a chance to convert free users to paid subscribers.

Be interesting to see if this slide continues

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Yup the Hide is dead. Lol Those stats never shift at all. I wish I had a nickel for every time people screamed the Hide is dead after he has made changes. Lol


oh don't get me wrong,  I'm not saying the hide is dead,  not a bit.  And I get website stats fluctuate.  Hide won't go anywhere,  we both know that. And that's a good thing.  

I'm just saying that it will impact the quality of the site, and will *probably* negatively impact his revenue over time.  

Most websites exist on three revenue streams,  Ad Rev, Subscriptions and Content/Gear sales.  There's some websites that pull revenue from referral clicks but those tend to be aggregators like bonginoreport.com or Google front pages. Informational/Content sites like the Hide get most of their revenue from those three.

But ad rev, subscription and sales all depend on new users. there's a pretty static conversion number where most of the users who will become paying members have,  most of them who've bought training/Tshirts/dope cards have, and revenue will get static.

If the number of new users you draw in drops, and continues to decline, it's just less users to convert to subs or sell gear to. It's even less users to click on ads and sell impressions to ad firms.

You need pretty solid streams of unique and new visitors to keep those numbers growing, and if his numbers decline, his revenue will decline. He'll see a short term bump and the ones who wouldn't support will to offload stuff, but I suspect that will be short lived.  What'll happen is people will migrate sales to other sites. (just a hunch)

The Hide's not going anywhere, it's definitely not going out of business,  and it shouldn't, it's a fantastic resource with a LOT of great content, contributors and thinkers.  It'll always exist in some format. I mean hell, people are still playing Team Fortress 2 and Starcraft.

I just think this change will slow down the content, I think you'll see some user leakage. It'll get more boring and less new content as the ones who do stay, post what they have and it gets stale over time.

we'll see. I hope it doesn't. That'd be good. I just suspect you'll see it slow down over time due to that.
Link Posted: 9/24/2021 2:35:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2021 9:54:29 AM EDT
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Some people.
Link Posted: 9/25/2021 11:46:26 AM EDT
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To look at another old gun site from my past browsing history that did next to nothing for revenue and the board owner apparently lost interest,...FAL files.  

pre ETA, i had to take a quick look as I haven’t been able to see more than a hold my place page in about a year......,
It seems that someone rebuilt the site but the traffic appears near dead.  


Threads I remember from 7 years ago on front pages.
Link Posted: 12/23/2021 7:38:30 PM EDT
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I’m definitely bummed about the EE on the hide.  Stuff is still getting posted for sale but not nearly what was there before.   Is what it is.  I do think a yearly membership would have been better. That’s something I’d do vs a monthly subscription
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 4:11:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mc556:
I’m definitely bummed about the EE on the hide.  Stuff is still getting posted for sale but not nearly what was there before.   Is what it is.  I do think a yearly membership would have been better. That’s something I’d do vs a monthly subscription
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What's even worse is how many accounts are getting hacked. Scam ads popping up like crazy. They're pretty convincing sometimes to.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 4:18:53 PM EDT
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Stopped going to snipershide when they transitioned to the new website, didn't realize it was still a thing until this thread.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 4:27:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2021 4:29:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2021 4:58:42 PM EDT
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This sounds more like a pit thread or gd thread…

Link Posted: 12/24/2021 10:41:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob01:


Been "a thing" for over 20 years. LOL And which new website? There have been quite a few changes over the years with the worst going to Scout.
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By FrankW134:
Stopped going to snipershide when they transitioned to the new website, didn't realize it was still a thing until this thread.


Been "a thing" for over 20 years. LOL And which new website? There have been quite a few changes over the years with the worst going to Scout.


The scout thing when we had to re-register.  I was extremely active on the old site.
Link Posted: 12/24/2021 11:05:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/26/2021 11:12:26 AM EDT
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Why hasn’t this been moved to GD? The purse swinging in here is juvenile.
Link Posted: 12/26/2021 5:45:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob01:


Been taking care of those as they pop up. Just part of doing business now on any website. Happens on other sites too. Look at all the fake ammo sites that popped up on Facebook.
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How many accounts get hacked here and post scam ads? I'm sure it happens but I haven't seen it like on the hide. Seems most everyday someone's account is hacked, if not multiple. Maybe offer some insurance with the pay to play EE? At least it's mostly low dollar stuff.

Why have you let this thread hang around here in tech? Lol
Link Posted: 12/26/2021 9:46:26 PM EDT
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If I ever plan to sell any high-dollar PRS stuff it's where I'd go.

I've paid far more in GunBroker fees selling shit there, $20 a month is reasonable to help a good resource running.
Link Posted: 12/27/2021 11:19:07 AM EDT
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