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Posted: 2/27/2015 12:37:29 AM EDT
I have a .308 Rem 700 SPS 26" Varmint barrel. I bought it a few years back with the intention of changing out the stock, adding a detachable mag and turning it into a proper precision rifle, but some things have changed along the way. I've since used it as a hunting rifle more than a bench gun at the range, and have decided that the barrel is too heavy/long for dual purpose. I've added a 762 suppressor to my collection. I've also learned that I'm not a true precision guy, and I probably wont be for a long time. for the near future, consistently hitting silhouettes at 600-800 yards is my training goal for my bolt gun. Given the changes in usage, I was going to have the barrel chopped and threaded (maybe fluted), in addition to the new stock and adding a mag.
Today I saw an ad for a Savage 10 FCP SR. It seems to have pretty much all the features I'm looking for: Shorter/lighter/threaded barrel, Detachable mag, good trigger. With the Savage rebate, you can get one now for about $550. Am I correct in assuming that it will be way cheaper and easier to sell the Rem 700 and buy the Savage 10? Anything the Remington does better that Im not seeing here? What is a stock used Rem 700 SPS worth? I'm thinking somewhere between $500 and $550? They seem to be going for $500 on GB. |
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Having shot many rounds from a FN PBR ,700 PSS,and 10 FCP, the Savage is a solid choice for the $$$
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Unless there is a specific stock or set up you want that is only supported by the Remington I would buy a Savage. The Savage has everything the Remington does except with a little less aftermarket support. I just got a Savage hog hunter to drop into the AI AICS I picked up for a Savage short action. The Savage will shoot as well as or better than a Remington out of the box and has a better extractor. I have also not been impressed with Remington's quality control in the last 5 years, the last Remington 700 I got felt like it had sand in the action when you cycled the bolt.
If I were putting together a precision rifle and not going with a custom action or planning to have it blueprinted out the gate I would get a Savage. |
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Dcordin44 bought the Savage for $650 and he's very happy with how it shoots.
But, don't expect those 10 round mags to really work. They are more for show. He called Savage to complain that the mag didn't work, so they sent him a new one. The new one wasn't much better. Also, the stock isn't an Accustock and it doesn't come with a 20 MOA rail. It is not the same FCP SR as listed on the Savage website. So, you'll probably still want to change the stock and go with an AICS bottom metal set up. If I were you, $550 would probably chop/thread your barrel and maybe get you into a B&C stock with PTG bottom metal. Or you can wait for the magpul set up to come out. |
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The "new" 10FCP-SR (ie. not the one with Accurate-Mag DBM) has been on Savage's website for weeks now.
I do notice that Cabelas has updated their website to show *their* new version 10FCP-SR as "non-Accustock"... |
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at 550$, thats a GREAT deal....
savage has their "quirks", but that it a good deal.. or, u could have your gun cut down and threaded, and get the new mapul stock with drop mag |
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Originally Posted By avboiler11:
The "new" 10FCP-SR (ie. not the one with Accurate-Mag DBM) has been on Savage's website for weeks now. I do notice that Cabelas has updated their website to show *their* new version 10FCP-SR as "non-Accustock"... View Quote The savage website showed it with an Accustock and 20Moa base ETA this was covered about a month ago when a few members went out and bought them. Then they discovered that it was a Cabela's special model |
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Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
The savage website showed it with an Accustock and 20Moa base ETA this was covered about a month ago when a few members went out and bought them. Then they discovered that it was a Cabela's special model View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
Originally Posted By avboiler11:
The "new" 10FCP-SR (ie. not the one with Accurate-Mag DBM) has been on Savage's website for weeks now. I do notice that Cabelas has updated their website to show *their* new version 10FCP-SR as "non-Accustock"... The savage website showed it with an Accustock and 20Moa base ETA this was covered about a month ago when a few members went out and bought them. Then they discovered that it was a Cabela's special model The Savage website still shows the new 10FCP-SR with an Accustock. |
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Originally Posted By avboiler11:
The Savage website still shows the new 10FCP-SR with an Accustock. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By avboiler11:
Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
Originally Posted By avboiler11:
The "new" 10FCP-SR (ie. not the one with Accurate-Mag DBM) has been on Savage's website for weeks now. I do notice that Cabelas has updated their website to show *their* new version 10FCP-SR as "non-Accustock"... The savage website showed it with an Accustock and 20Moa base ETA this was covered about a month ago when a few members went out and bought them. Then they discovered that it was a Cabela's special model The Savage website still shows the new 10FCP-SR with an Accustock. The standard FCP-SR has an accu stock. The "Cabelas Exclusive" is the same rifle without an accustock. |
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Ok, point is, I believe the OP saw the cabelas ad that has the gun at $550, d
So it will be the non Accustock, non 20 MOA rail model. If I am wrong and this ab accustock gun, it's a much sweeter deal |
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I just bought the new 2015 Savage 10 FCP SR. It comes with an Accustock or at least mine did. I dumped the factory bottom metal with Savages new 10rd. mag and went with an Accurate Metal bottom metal and an AICS mag. The rifle comes with an 18" fluted threaded barrel and oversized bolt knob with EGW 20 moa base. I added a Vortex 6-24x50 HS-T and the results I am getting with the rifle are damn impressive. I prefer Remington actions by far as there are more aftermarket options but seeing Remington's spotty stuff their putting out lately turned me away from it. My buddies is back at the factory right now due to accuracy issues. He has pretty much the same scope I have and he and I both shot it with Federal and hand loaded 168 match ammo and the grouping on the Remington at its best was 2.25" at 100. Similar 870's I have had my hands on lately are nothing to be desired as well. Remington needs to get their act together
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Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
Ok, point is, I believe the OP saw the cabelas ad that has the gun at $550, d So it will be the non Accustock, non 20 MOA rail model. If I am wrong and this ab accustock gun, it's a much sweeter deal View Quote You are right, I was looking at Cabelas. Even without the Accustock, it seems like a better deal for me as long as I sell my Rem 700 for around $500, I'll be paying about $50 out of pocket for the threaded/fluted 20" barrel. I seriously doubt I could get all of that work done on my Rem 700 for less than $300. I heard the advice above about the shitty magazines. If that turns out to be the case, that is no different than my stock Rem 700, the internal magazine on the shitty stock feeds poorly. I also think the Savage appeals to me, because if I ever get the point where I'm such a great target shooter that I need the extra barrel length, I can swap barrels easier on the Savage. |
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Originally Posted By dmjerrywest44:
I have the one that has been discontinued and I will say that it was absolutely fantastic out of the box. Only thing it really needed for me was a karsten cheek rest. 5 shot group at 100 yards with Southwest 175 SMK. <a href="http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/dmjerrywest44/media/IMG_1671.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af139/dmjerrywest44/IMG_1671.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/dmjerrywest44/media/IMG_1668.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af139/dmjerrywest44/IMG_1668.jpg</a> View Quote Do you know the difference between the discontinued model, and model Im looking at? What barrel length and stock do you have there? Awesome shooting! Thanks to all for the replies and feedback. |
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I was one of the ones that bought and sold the Cabela's one. The Cabela's one is not the one listed on the Savage website, and I was annoyed to put it mildly. It looks the same, but the SKU numbers are different and the only way you will be able to tell is to get it off of Savage's website and compare it to the SKU on the box for the one from Cabela's. The Cabela's one does not have the Accustock. There are complaints of loose threads on the muzzle and the thread protector coming loose as well as suppressors. The mag sucks, the rounds nose dive. This is not like the prior version and does not have the 20 MOA base either.
Just be informed and aware of what you are buying. I did all sorts of research and did not find about the issue except on one thread on another forum, after I had bought it. If you can get the older version, do that. Look for the prior thread on here and read that and the links first. |
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OP it may be a great for you, I just wanted you to be aware of the issues
Also look at the Hog Hunter. It's typically a little cheaper |
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Originally Posted By WantsAnRRA:
OP it may be a great for you, I just wanted you to be aware of the issues Also look at the Hog Hunter. It's typically a little cheaper View Quote I sincerely appreciate all of the feedback and disclosure. If I wanted the advertising spin, I could get that from a manufactorer or retailer. I wasn't able to find the ARF thread on this rifle, but there are other forums with info as well: http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?40964-Beware-10FCP-SR-has-been-changed It seems most of the complaints are guys that bought it thinking it was something else. I thought it had an Accustock after looking at Savages website. After looking at Cabelas site, it clearly says non Accustock. I would have noticed this before buying. My only complaint at this point with Cabelas is their advertising. Ad says it is normally $650 on sale for $550. It also mentions a $100 Savage rebate. So do I end up paying $450 plus tax? Or is the "sale" the manufactorers rebate? That seems slightly misleading. It may not be intentional. A lot of the complaints are about the detachable mag and stock sucking. The gun I already have has the same problems, but not the barrel profile I want. The cost of replacing the stock/mags to get a high quality setup will be the same for me either way. I think I'm ok with the 0 degree base for now as well (Primary use of hunting, with the ability to upgrade in precision over time). |
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Originally Posted By Ronnoc:
I was one of the ones that bought and sold the Cabela's one. The Cabela's one is not the one listed on the Savage website, and I was annoyed to put it mildly. It looks the same, but the SKU numbers are different and the only way you will be able to tell is to get it off of Savage's website and compare it to the SKU on the box for the one from Cabela's. The Cabela's one does not have the Accustock. There are complaints of loose threads on the muzzle and the thread protector coming loose as well as suppressors. The mag sucks, the rounds nose dive. This is not like the prior version and does not have the 20 MOA base either. Just be informed and aware of what you are buying. I did all sorts of research and did not find about the issue except on one thread on another forum, after I had bought it. If you can get the older version, do that. Look for the prior thread on here and read that and the links first. View Quote Of the 8 I looked at today at my local gun shop and the 2 at my local gander mountain all had crisp tight threads and the protectors were a pain taking off. Mine is no exception. Savage must have put out a few with the "loose threads" |
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So I checked, and they said it is a $100 off the original price ($650-$100) for an in store price of $550. Then you send in the rebate to Savage and end up paying $450 when it's all said and done. I jumped on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. Even if I replace the stock/mag, because they turn out to be garbage, I will be thrilled.
The bad news is my store was sold out, so I have to wait for them to ship one over from another store (and that costs $25 extra). |
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Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
So I checked, and they said it is a $100 off the original price ($650-$100) for an in store price of $550. Then you send in the rebate to Savage and end up paying $450 when it's all said and done. I jumped on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. Even if I replace the stock/mag, because they turn out to be garbage, I will be thrilled. The bad news is my store was sold out, so I have to wait for them to ship one over from another store (and that costs $25 extra). View Quote I think I'm going to try and pick one of these up too just for the above reason. $450 is a steal for this rifle. |
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$450? Awesome deal
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I think you just sold me too. Hope my Cabelas still has them.
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Originally Posted By number1olddog:
I just bought the new 2015 Savage 10 FCP SR. It comes with an Accustock or at least mine did. I dumped the factory bottom metal with Savages new 10rd. mag and went with an Accurate Metal bottom metal and an AICS mag. The rifle comes with an 18" fluted threaded barrel and oversized bolt knob with EGW 20 moa base. I added a Vortex 6-24x50 HS-T and the results I am getting with the rifle are damn impressive. I prefer Remington actions by far as there are more aftermarket options but seeing Remington's spotty stuff their putting out lately turned me away from it. My buddies is back at the factory right now due to accuracy issues. He has pretty much the same scope I have and he and I both shot it with Federal and hand loaded 168 match ammo and the grouping on the Remington at its best was 2.25" at 100. Similar 870's I have had my hands on lately are nothing to be desired as well. Remington needs to get their act together View Quote Are you sure it's an 18 inch barrel? As far as i know, they are only offered in 20 and 24 inch varieties. I have the 2015 version, model 22442. It has a 20 inch barrel, accustock, and a 0 moa base. I replaced the base with an EGW 20 moa version. The barrel threads are tight and the magazine fits snug. I just ordered a set of Burris xtr rings that I'm waiting on before i can test fire it. With that mail in rebate, you can't go wrong! |
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When I was looking for a bolt action 223 about 6 months ago, it was a tie between the Rem700 and Savage 10FPSR. I checked both of them out, and the factory stock on the Savage seemed really cheesy, so I went with the SPS Tactical.
I ended up swapping the factory hogue with a Bell & Carlson M40A1, so I guess it was a wash. I think Savages are awesome, I've shot many before. When I finally plunk down for a 6.5 Creedmoor I think it'll be a Savage. I don't go crazy with my rifles, so it'll be the model with the HS Precision stock. |
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Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
So I checked, and they said it is a $100 off the original price ($650-$100) for an in store price of $550. Then you send in the rebate to Savage and end up paying $450 when it's all said and done. I jumped on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. Even if I replace the stock/mag, because they turn out to be garbage, I will be thrilled. The bad news is my store was sold out, so I have to wait for them to ship one over from another store (and that costs $25 extra). View Quote I'm currently on a waiting list for the same one. Question for you, do you plan on leaving it alone or upgrading some parts as the cheaper one doesn't have the accustock? I'm currently in a dilemma as to which one to get, I've heard much fewer complaints from the accustock model but I may swap out the stock anyway along with the bottom metal. I'm wondering if the 2 are the same gun with different socks (which is what it looks like) or if the cheaper one has inferior/reject parts (which is what it sounds like from some people's reviews). If they are in fact the same I'll go cheap and upgrade the stock to what I want, if not I'll go accustock. |
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Originally Posted By cs87:
I'm currently on a waiting list for the same one. Question for you, do you plan on leaving it alone or upgrading some parts as the cheaper one doesn't have the accustock? I'm currently in a dilemma as to which one to get, I've heard much fewer complaints from the accustock model but I may swap out the stock anyway along with the bottom metal. I'm wondering if the 2 are the same gun with different socks (which is what it looks like) or if the cheaper one has inferior/reject parts (which is what it sounds like from some people's reviews). If they are in fact the same I'll go cheap and upgrade the stock to what I want, if not I'll go accustock. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cs87:
Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
So I checked, and they said it is a $100 off the original price ($650-$100) for an in store price of $550. Then you send in the rebate to Savage and end up paying $450 when it's all said and done. I jumped on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. Even if I replace the stock/mag, because they turn out to be garbage, I will be thrilled. The bad news is my store was sold out, so I have to wait for them to ship one over from another store (and that costs $25 extra). I'm currently on a waiting list for the same one. Question for you, do you plan on leaving it alone or upgrading some parts as the cheaper one doesn't have the accustock? I'm currently in a dilemma as to which one to get, I've heard much fewer complaints from the accustock model but I may swap out the stock anyway along with the bottom metal. I'm wondering if the 2 are the same gun with different socks (which is what it looks like) or if the cheaper one has inferior/reject parts (which is what it sounds like from some people's reviews). If they are in fact the same I'll go cheap and upgrade the stock to what I want, if not I'll go accustock. I do not know if they are the same, and don't really have a way of finding out. From what I've read on the web, the non Accustock Cabelas model won't fit an Accustock. If that is true, then there must be some difference. Personally, I'm going to give it a try with the factory setup. Unless the accuracy is just too horrible for casual target shooting and hunting (2.5 MOA or worse), it will stay in the factory configuration for a while until I finish a few other projects. I plan to ultimately switch out the stock, and scope base, but hopefully not for a few years. |
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Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
I do not know if they are the same, and don't really have a way of finding out. From what I've read on the web, the non Accustock Cabelas model won't fit an Accustock. If that is true, then there must be some difference. Personally, I'm going to give it a try with the factory setup. Unless the accuracy is just too horrible for casual target shooting and hunting (2.5 MOA or worse), it will stay in the factory configuration for a while until I finish a few other projects. I plan to ultimately switch out the stock, and scope base, but hopefully not for a few years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
Originally Posted By cs87:
Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
So I checked, and they said it is a $100 off the original price ($650-$100) for an in store price of $550. Then you send in the rebate to Savage and end up paying $450 when it's all said and done. I jumped on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. Even if I replace the stock/mag, because they turn out to be garbage, I will be thrilled. The bad news is my store was sold out, so I have to wait for them to ship one over from another store (and that costs $25 extra). I'm currently on a waiting list for the same one. Question for you, do you plan on leaving it alone or upgrading some parts as the cheaper one doesn't have the accustock? I'm currently in a dilemma as to which one to get, I've heard much fewer complaints from the accustock model but I may swap out the stock anyway along with the bottom metal. I'm wondering if the 2 are the same gun with different socks (which is what it looks like) or if the cheaper one has inferior/reject parts (which is what it sounds like from some people's reviews). If they are in fact the same I'll go cheap and upgrade the stock to what I want, if not I'll go accustock. I do not know if they are the same, and don't really have a way of finding out. From what I've read on the web, the non Accustock Cabelas model won't fit an Accustock. If that is true, then there must be some difference. Personally, I'm going to give it a try with the factory setup. Unless the accuracy is just too horrible for casual target shooting and hunting (2.5 MOA or worse), it will stay in the factory configuration for a while until I finish a few other projects. I plan to ultimately switch out the stock, and scope base, but hopefully not for a few years. What stock options are there that you would/could consider? Also if you swap out the bottom metal, what would you go to? I am curious because I am about to walk down the same road. Thanks for any help/insight. |
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Originally Posted By Pr3ach3r:
What stock options are there that you would/could consider? Also if you swap out the bottom metal, what would you go to? I am curious because I am about to walk down the same road. Thanks for any help/insight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Pr3ach3r:
Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
Originally Posted By cs87:
Originally Posted By Rooster-Cogburn:
So I checked, and they said it is a $100 off the original price ($650-$100) for an in store price of $550. Then you send in the rebate to Savage and end up paying $450 when it's all said and done. I jumped on it like a fat kid on a cupcake. Even if I replace the stock/mag, because they turn out to be garbage, I will be thrilled. The bad news is my store was sold out, so I have to wait for them to ship one over from another store (and that costs $25 extra). I'm currently on a waiting list for the same one. Question for you, do you plan on leaving it alone or upgrading some parts as the cheaper one doesn't have the accustock? I'm currently in a dilemma as to which one to get, I've heard much fewer complaints from the accustock model but I may swap out the stock anyway along with the bottom metal. I'm wondering if the 2 are the same gun with different socks (which is what it looks like) or if the cheaper one has inferior/reject parts (which is what it sounds like from some people's reviews). If they are in fact the same I'll go cheap and upgrade the stock to what I want, if not I'll go accustock. I do not know if they are the same, and don't really have a way of finding out. From what I've read on the web, the non Accustock Cabelas model won't fit an Accustock. If that is true, then there must be some difference. Personally, I'm going to give it a try with the factory setup. Unless the accuracy is just too horrible for casual target shooting and hunting (2.5 MOA or worse), it will stay in the factory configuration for a while until I finish a few other projects. I plan to ultimately switch out the stock, and scope base, but hopefully not for a few years. What stock options are there that you would/could consider? Also if you swap out the bottom metal, what would you go to? I am curious because I am about to walk down the same road. Thanks for any help/insight. These guys seem to have some options, so I was thinking something like this: Stocky But you have to measure the gun before you can determine exactly what aftermarket stocks will fit. Especially on a Savage. They have instructions on their page for how to do it. |
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From what I've read the reason the accustock won't fit the non -accustock version is due to the recoil lugs being different. Now I don't know if that difference would affect it fitting other aftermarket socks or not but would like to know if someone is aware. On another note I do like that medalist tactical stock, that's similar to what I would want if I upgrade. If magpul ends up making one of their socks for the savage I'd consider that too.
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Originally Posted By cs87:
From what I've read the reason the accustock won't fit the non -accustock version is due to the recoil lugs being different. Now I don't know if that difference would affect it fitting other aftermarket socks or not but would like to know if someone is aware. On another note I do like that medalist tactical stock, that's similar to what I would want if I upgrade. If magpul ends up making one of their socks for the savage I'd consider that too. View Quote I have a short action Savage with both the accustock and a regular model. The difference is that the recoil lug for the accu model is narrower side to side, so the regular lug would not fit in the narrower space in the stock where the lug sits. You could certainly take a regular lug and grind down the sides of it so it fit, or maybe buy the lug needed for the accustock. My accustock model has a trigger guard bolt release, so the stock does not have the slot on the side of the bolt shroud where the bolt release is on the regular model. I am very sure that an accustock model would fit in a regular stock with minor dremel work inside the stock. You would have the open area at the bolt shroud for the release, and the lug would have some side to side space that you could fill with bedding compound anyway. Also, fyi, my accustock model had smooth barrel nut, which I removed with a wrench. On the stainless rifle I had it was really not on tight at all compared to other rifles that were blued. The barrel nut is the same profile as a slotted nut, just no grooves. For me, these variations with the bolt release and lugs are a minor drawback. They probably contribute to less aftermarket support since Savage has made these variations that complicate stocks and bottom metal. |
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what about this model guys>>
Model 10 FCP-SR Tactical Bolt-Action Rifle any info or feedback |
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Read up and you'll see some information. I have the 20" model. Fit and finish are good, barrel is free-floated, accutrigger and accustock, threaded barrel. It's a great value with the mail in rebate. I just needed my scope base and will hopefully be out shooting on Sunday.
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Vis a vis Cabelas and the AccuStock and the FCP-SR, the website is showing a 20" noted as having an AccuStock. Here is the page on their site. $659.00 and a $100.00 mail in rebate.
Of course, when I went in to check it out, it was massively back ordered. I put my money in line. I'll inform my wife about it later ... |
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Just because it says it has an accustock, doesn't make it so. Check the part # vs the savage site
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When I get it in, it better have an AccuStock. If it doesn't, I'll get my money back. I've already done a screenshot of the site. Plus, talking with the folks there, they assured me that it would have one. We'll see when it comes.
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Cabelas has many different variations of this gun. Different barrel profiles, different stocks... I got the wrong barrel profile, and no scope mount sent to the store for my order. It might take a little while to get the right gun in, but the guys are taking care of it. The manager said they have like 5 different SKUs for the Savage 10FCP.
And the stock (non accu) was complete garbage. Makes the Hogue look very good. I could flex the forend with one hand using my thumb and two fingers. It will be replaced pretty quickly once I get it. The mag is indeed a 9 round mag, and it fed fine. I might try to re-use the bottom metal/mag. If anyone has any recommendations for a decent stock that would fit, I'm all ears. |
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A follow up to the FCP-SR at Cabelas. They've been way difficult to find anywhere. I kind of gave up for awhile. On a whim, I went in today and asked them to order one for me. They guy told me it could be a month or two to get it in. Cool, no hurry. I gave them my name and phone number, jumped in my truck and headed home. about three miles down the road I got a call from them. They just got one in. So, I turned around and bought it. $659.99 plus the $100 rebate they set me up with. When it's all said and done it'll cost me $559.99 + tax. It is an AccuStock, and, from what I'm looking at, it's tight and tidy; 20 MOA rail, as advertised, etc.
I was almost ready to throw down on a Remington 700 AAC-SD and bite the bullet for a Bell and Carlson stock, bottom metal for a box mag, rail, and probably a Timney trigger. Doing the math, I'm happy about the FCP-SR. Dollars and cents (sense) I'm way ahead with the Savage. Once I get it rigged up and put a few rounds through it, I'll post an update. |
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Originally Posted By kravguy:
A follow up to the FCP-SR at Cabelas. They've been way difficult to find anywhere. I kind of gave up for awhile. On a whim, I went in today and asked them to order one for me. They guy told me it could be a month or two to get it in. Cool, no hurry. I gave them my name and phone number, jumped in my truck and headed home. about three miles down the road I got a call from them. They just got one in. So, I turned around and bought it. $659.99 plus the $100 rebate they set me up with. When it's all said and done it'll cost me $559.99 + tax. It is an AccuStock, and, from what I'm looking at, it's tight and tidy; 20 MOA rail, as advertised, etc. I was almost ready to throw down on a Remington 700 AAC-SD and bite the bullet for a Bell and Carlson stock, bottom metal for a box mag, rail, and probably a Timney trigger. Doing the math, I'm happy about the FCP-SR. Dollars and cents (sense) I'm way ahead with the Savage. Once I get it rigged up and put a few rounds through it, I'll post an update. View Quote That's the model I ended up with. I shot a few sub MOA groups with it (and a few not so good because I suck) at 100 yards with match ammo the first time out sighting it in. The mag isn't exactly high quality, but it will do. Overall, I'm very happy with it. I need to work up some loads and go shoot it again. |
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I now have both of these rifles. The Remington has 1:12 twist so I plan on mainly shooting 168 grain bullets. The Savage has 1:10 twist so it's getting a diet of 175 grain bullets. My savage came with the Accu stock and Accu trigger, 0 MOA mount, and the new 10 round mag. These had been very hard to get until about a the second week of June. Several of my distributors got a run of them so I ordered in a few and since I see the distributors are out of stock now, they sure went fast!!!!
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Out of the box the Savage is much better. But take the Remington 700 to a good gunsmith and have it blueprinted. With a little work from someone who knows what he is doing, you'll be glad you stayed with the Remington.
While Remington's production quality is clearly slipping, the basics of the 700 remain the same. It is superb in blueprinted form and as stated above, the number and variety of parts, upgrades and options for future modification or customization, is far better and growing every day. I have a trued, blueprinted Remington 700 long action Mountain Rifle in .280 Remington (done in Remington's Custom Shop), with 26" air gauged barrel (not off the production line), in a McMillan stock and tuned trigger that is far more accurate than I am capable of shooting, and it was intended for hunting. Their Custom Shop is the last bastion of the artisan gunsmiths at Remington. They still do it right. So can a good gunsmith with the experience and proper tools. Get the Savage if you want to leave it alone. Upgrade the Remington and have something better and more adaptable to change down the road. |
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The people having problems with the 10 round mag must have gotten the first batch. The first magazine I got worked fine but it would launch the tenth round out. The one I got 2 weeks ago works flawlessly with 10 rounds.
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I need to make a correction. Mine does not have a 20 MOA rail. When I was inspecting it at the store, eyeballing it, I thought I saw a rake and assumed it was 20 MOA; a perfect example of assumacide. But on closer inspection, it's a zero MOA which is fine because that is what I was expecting.
I am going to install an AM bottom metal and mag. One thing of note, the UPC number on this gun is 22497, the one that people were having issues with from Cabelas. But this one is exactly, as far as I can tell, the same as the one on the Savage website: 22441; same barrel profile, AccuStock, etc. I've compared them and they are exactly the same (as far as I can tell). From what I've read on various forums, the Cabelas 22497s that people were picking up earlier in the year were sans the AccuStock and some of the barrel profiles were different as well. Makes me wonder if Cabelas and Savage caught enough grief to change their approach. Either way, I'm happy with this gun; subject to change when I scope it and shoot it. |
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If it's like any Savage it will be a tack driver!
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