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Posted: 2/20/2015 3:53:35 AM EDT
Hey guys,

I'm in the process of assembling all the parts to build an SPR. I'm having a hard time with barrels.

I have the opportunity to purchase a Colt 1/7 twist 20" HBAR from the early 90's. Less than 100 rounds through it. Threaded for an A2. Price $325.

Seems a bit high compared to newer barrels, like the Criterion 20" HBAR or Hybrid contour.

Is it worth getting the Colt barrel, or should I get something else from a reputable barrel maker?
Link Posted: 2/20/2015 4:01:34 AM EDT
With a FF tube that will be close to a 1 minute barrel. I'd still get stainless.
Link Posted: 2/20/2015 8:41:32 AM EDT
$325 can get you very close to a custom barrel from compass lake. No way would I consider the Colt.
Link Posted: 2/20/2015 9:34:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
$325 can get you very close to a custom barrel from compass lake. No way would I consider the Colt.
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That $325 must be for a complete upper? That's a ridiculous price for a chrome-lined POS
Those barrels are not far from garbage... you'll beat your head against the wall trying to get 1.5moa out of it. As me how I know

Like Lenny said, Compass Lake, White Oak, etc.
Link Posted: 2/20/2015 12:30:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Hey guys,

I'm in the process of assembling all the parts to build an SPR. I'm having a hard time with barrels.

I have the opportunity to purchase a Colt 1/7 twist 20" HBAR from the early 90's. Less than 100 rounds through it. Threaded for an A2. Price $325.

Seems a bit high compared to newer barrels, like the Criterion 20" HBAR or Hybrid contour.

Is it worth getting the Colt barrel, or should I get something else from a reputable barrel maker?
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Pass on the Colt barrel... look at barrels from White Oak and Black Hole Weaponry (for starters).
Link Posted: 2/20/2015 3:48:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ch3no2:


That $325 must be for a complete upper? That's a ridiculous price for a chrome-lined POS
Those barrels are not far from garbage... you'll beat your head against the wall trying to get 1.5moa out of it. As me how I know

Like Lenny said, Compass Lake, White Oak, etc.
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Originally Posted By ch3no2:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
$325 can get you very close to a custom barrel from compass lake. No way would I consider the Colt.


That $325 must be for a complete upper? That's a ridiculous price for a chrome-lined POS
Those barrels are not far from garbage... you'll beat your head against the wall trying to get 1.5moa out of it. As me how I know

Like Lenny said, Compass Lake, White Oak, etc.

This is really what I'm afraid of.
Link Posted: 2/21/2015 1:32:41 PM EDT
There are lots of new, unfired match barrels on the market for less than $325.00. Rainer Arms, Shilen, WOA, Compass Lake Engineering and Lothar-Walther are better barrels.

Buy a stainless steel barrel and ask them to glass bead blast it for a matte finish. 18" SPR profile barrels are heavy enough, CMP/DCM profile are too heavy in my opinion unless you get it fluted under the hand guard.

There are way too many quality barrels available to pay $325 for a generic used Colt.
Link Posted: 2/21/2015 1:34:02 PM EDT
Ammo quality is more important than barrel quality for shooting tight groups. You need both for long range work.
Link Posted: 2/25/2015 8:10:41 PM EDT
I really recommend this barrel. It's been fantastic for me. https://dsgarms.com/megma-556-18
Link Posted: 4/15/2015 9:03:21 PM EDT
I love my Black Hole Weaponry barrel. I can't speak for groups, because I haven't yet taken the time to record any. I can tell you that I was pegging steal at over 400 yards on a very windy day with a borrowed Mark AR. The barrel was dead on as far as positive impacts go. This is the model I have and where I got it. They have several different lengths in stock, and their prices are very competitive.
Link Posted: 4/17/2015 6:59:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2015 6:59:44 PM EDT by alpha0815]
With my recent experience with WOA, I will never have to decide what barrel to choose again...in 223 Wylde. There is no way a gas gun could be more accurate. Douglas is #2 on my list now.
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 8:37:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2015 8:38:23 PM EDT by JohnStoner]
Ballistic advantage. Liked the one I got so much I got another. Bother shoot sub moa.

Has done well for me in several carbine courses, on steel out to 700m and popping prairie dogs.

BA 18"
Link Posted: 4/18/2015 9:51:29 PM EDT
Rainier Arms match or ultramatch should also be tossed in the mix. I've been very happy with both, with each easily shooting sub-moa (68's, 69's, 75's).
Link Posted: 4/19/2015 11:21:37 AM EDT
I had good luck with the Ranier stainless barrels in 1:8, 18" rifle length.

Using a WOA now, same specs as above, and it looks to be a tack driver with a few of my reloads.
Link Posted: 4/20/2015 10:59:43 PM EDT
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Rainier Arms match or ultramatch should also be tossed in the mix. I've been very happy with both, with each easily shooting sub-moa (68's, 69's, 75's).
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This or Douglas barrels can't go wrong or White Oak, or compass lake there are so many choices and colt is not one of them in my opinion.
Link Posted: 4/21/2015 8:55:01 AM EDT
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I have owned or built rifles using: douglas, WOA, shilen/rainier ultramatch, lilja, and BHW. All were very good barrels and will not have a significant difference in performance from each other assuming you don't get a lemon (my lilja was a lemon). However for my most recent rebarrelling, I went straight to Krieger. The barrel I received from them performs a step above all those I just listed. The wait time however is no joke. If you ordered a Krieger and one of the above right now, you might get the Krieger in by the time you shoot out the other barrel.
Link Posted: 4/22/2015 10:30:21 AM EDT
BCM ss410 has been very good in my experience. All very sub moa with Federal 77 gold medal.
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 10:47:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By alpha0815:
With my recent experience with WOA, I will never have to decide what barrel to choose again...in 223 Wylde. There is no way a gas gun could be more accurate. Douglas is #2 on my list now.
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Ditto this^^^

Plus WOA makes the SPR barrels!
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 3:24:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EL_TIRADOR:


Ditto this^^^

Plus WOA makes the SPR barrels!
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Originally Posted By EL_TIRADOR:
Originally Posted By alpha0815:
With my recent experience with WOA, I will never have to decide what barrel to choose again...in 223 Wylde. There is no way a gas gun could be more accurate. Douglas is #2 on my list now.


Ditto this^^^

Plus WOA makes the SPR barrels!


They didn't make THE SPR/Mk12 barrels, those were Douglas.

That being said, performance for dollar a WOA barrel will not disappoint.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 10:21:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/3/2015 1:12:51 AM EDT
I have a 20" WOA and it's a great barrel. I'm interested in a 16" Criterion because the idea of sub-MOA accuracy with chrome lining makes me tingle.

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