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Posted: 1/10/2017 6:57:02 AM EST
So I cant find a single online vendor in the universe (aside from Midway) that has any Hodgdon H4350 in stock right now. And the ones that I did an in stock notification on months ago never sent me an email, leading me to believe that this stuff isn't getting imported from France anymore or something else is going on .

Anybody know anything?
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 7:32:00 AM EST
Weird because I can find it pretty much at every local reloading shop here in middle TN.
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 11:41:55 AM EST
If you're totally out and anywhere near Austin I can spot you a couple 1lbs...
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 11:47:52 AM EST
I saw a 8-pounder at our last gun show. It's out there.
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 11:52:22 AM EST
It totally switched to Enduron powders.  Some people say they don't work, but they have worked great for me.

4451 is what I subbed out,   all my charge weights have been within .1 grains
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 4:12:03 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 6:19:49 PM EST
Try RL-17. Worked great for me to substitute H4350. I sold the rifle but RL-17 used less powder the H4350 for the same fps out of the barrel.
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 6:33:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/10/2017 6:34:33 PM EST by BM1455]
Maybe they decided to take a break from it and focus on other types that are just getting back in stock? Back during the neckbearding panic period a few years ago IMR4350 was about the only powder that I could find for almost a year. I have about 5 pounds of it on hand.

Edit: 4 pounds.
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 6:44:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/10/2017 6:45:18 PM EST by rn22723]
H4350 is made Australia. By Australian Munitions.
There are batches out there. Most distributors have it on allocation, so might not show up online?
Locally in the last three weeks there were somd 8# and 1#
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 8:35:52 PM EST
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Try RL-17. Worked great for me to substitute H4350. I sold the rifle but RL-17 used less powder the H4350 for the same fps out of the barrel.
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THat is a terrible choice for temperature stability 
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 10:11:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/10/2017 10:12:08 PM EST by Bearcat24]
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THat is a terrible choice for temperature stability 
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According to alliant, it's supposed to be temp stable. Have read a few folks complaining about temp sensitivity but have also read no issues with temp swings.
RL-17
Link Posted: 1/10/2017 11:35:58 PM EST
I've just started testing RE16. So far it looks promising. 
I had rifle problems today so my groups were not my best, I'm going to redo one of the loads and go up another .6 since Sierra released their loading data for 6.5 Creedmoor 
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 12:01:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/11/2017 12:05:04 AM EST by GMZ]
Its out there, but you have to be there at the right place/time and buy now when it comes in stock.

Honestly though, IMR 4451 is just as good so thats what I have been shooting lately.

ETA: Things are slowly coming back. Varget was just as unobtanium and is available pretty much everywhere now.

With the price increase the Extreme powders are the same price as the Enduron powders so its really a wash.
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 10:49:42 AM EST
Powder Valley has it in stock. $25.75 for a one pound container, well under $200 for an eight pounder.
Link Posted: 1/11/2017 10:53:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
Powder Valley has it in stock. $25.75 for a one pound container, well under $200 for an eight pounder.
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if they did they don't now.
Link Posted: 1/12/2017 11:13:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/16/2017 3:24:27 PM EST by Trollslayer]
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
if they did they don't now.
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Still shows as "In Stock" on my machine: $25.75/pound and $184.25/8 pounds

Cleared my browser cache and it now shows "Out of Stock, No Back order".

Luckily, I have >8 lb out in the garage.
Link Posted: 1/13/2017 11:32:42 AM EST
No more either size!
Link Posted: 1/15/2017 9:06:01 AM EST
Op where are you located

Gun masters in Plano (DFW) generally has a good supply of powder, you might check with them although I think they are closed Sunday and Monday
Link Posted: 1/16/2017 5:39:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JoeMal:
Op where are you located

Gun masters in Plano (DFW) generally has a good supply of powder, you might check with them although I think they are closed Sunday and Monday
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Houston
Link Posted: 1/18/2017 9:49:18 AM EST
Powder Valley shows H4350 in stock right now...
Link Posted: 1/20/2017 3:12:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By drywall5:
Powder Valley shows H4350 in stock right now...
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Gracious, they are out of stock already with no back order
Link Posted: 1/26/2017 7:31:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rickesis:
Only $37.50 per pound...
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Damn, I regret not overpaying for this when I had the opportunity!
Link Posted: 1/26/2017 7:35:12 PM EST
I went to several places in my neck of the woods looking for 4350 of any type. No luck. During the whole neckbearding panic over the last few years this was almost the only powder that was always available!
Link Posted: 1/26/2017 9:50:04 PM EST
A guy kind of local to me had 50lbs, he bought so much to keep the same lot #. He ended up switching loads and selling the 4350 for $20.00 a pound. Should have bought it all. Bought 20 lbs instead.

All I buy is hodgdon, haven't tried IMR. Heard the enduron is good shit though.
Link Posted: 2/3/2017 12:38:14 PM EST
Another good potential replacement for H4350 is Hunter. It is also temperature insensitive like the Hodgdon. Most IMR and Alliant powders are sensitive to temps.
Link Posted: 2/3/2017 3:07:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bearcat24:
Try RL-17. Worked great for me to substitute H4350. I sold the rifle but RL-17 used less powder the H4350 for the same fps out of the barrel.
THat is a terrible choice for temperature stability 

I have heard this other places. Maybe it is in 6.5 Creedmoor but I have had good success with it in 6x47L and it came recommended by my gunsmith who shoots benchrest in 6x47L with it.

I'm wanting to try RL16 as soon as I finish the rest of this 5 pounder.
Link Posted: 2/3/2017 4:29:13 PM EST
There must have been #1 let loose by Hodgdon recently. They raised the prices on Retumbo, H1000, Varget, and H4350. The other Australian produced powders went up but no as much.
Link Posted: 2/8/2017 10:08:02 PM EST
I'm confused, are you saying that a new shipment has hit the shores from Australia recently?
Link Posted: 2/12/2017 6:13:27 PM EST
It may be comeing back, I found an 8 pounder at the fun show today. I couldn't believe my eyes, I was long stepping it to the table when I spotted it, good price too!
Link Posted: 2/20/2017 6:23:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/20/2017 6:37:17 PM EST by MS556]
RL-19 has been my go-to powder for just about all loads that also do well with H-4350 and IMR-4350. May be "old school" but produces really good results for me both in accuracy and in velocity, especially in '06 type cases - '06, .270, .280 Rem and in 7mm Rem Mag and such. Yes, I know it is more temperature sensitive, but I work my loads up at summer temps and the drop in fps with temps seems relatively uniform. I rarely shoot under conditions where I cannot verify drop for the climate and season where I will be shooting.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 7:55:04 AM EST
I've been seeing some good results from the newer alliant powders, not the older ones. 

16,23, and 26 seem to be working well as far as stability goes.
Link Posted: 2/21/2017 8:43:17 AM EST
I know what I would do .....


I'd go to my magazine and move the H4895 eight pounders and grab one of the H4350 eight pounders.


They come four eight pounders to a box you know.
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 12:41:19 AM EST
So I work night shift and when I woke up today at 6:30pm I saw an email notification from precisionreloader.com that they had some 1 pounders in stock (email sent at 3pm) so I checked their website, and sure as shit, it's sold out.

LOL, I feel like I'm hunting street dope back to a distributor. Buncha junkies and mysterious people
in the habit giving unconfirmed stories and conjecture and hearsay about where it was 10 minutes before I showed up.

So finally I got fed up and back ordered 300 something dollars worth of bullets, powder, and Lapua cases through Grafs & Sons.
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 12:52:31 AM EST
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According to alliant, it's supposed to be temp stable. Have read a few folks complaining about temp sensitivity but have also read no issues with temp swings.
RL-17
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
THat is a terrible choice for temperature stability 

According to alliant, it's supposed to be temp stable. Have read a few folks complaining about temp sensitivity but have also read no issues with temp swings.
RL-17
Nothing is as temp stable as H4350.
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 12:55:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hkusp9:
I'm confused, are you saying that a new shipment has hit the shores from Australia recently?
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It disappears as soon as it comes in stock. Powder Valley will always have it first, then others like Graf, Midsouth, Natchez...

But it will be gone in minutes.
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 11:57:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
It disappears as soon as it comes in stock. Powder Valley will always have it first, then others like Graf, Midsouth, Natchez...

But it will be gone in minutes.
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You're the bomb!

I just ordered a big fat 8 pound jug on powdervalley. That'll get me 1,300ish rounds, or a year or two of regular RPR 6.5 creedmoor shooting.

Thanks again ZIARIFLEMAN!
Link Posted: 2/22/2017 12:04:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
So I cant find a single online vendor in the universe (aside from Midway) that has any Hodgdon H4350 in stock right now. And the ones that I did an in stock notification on months ago never sent me an email, leading me to believe that this stuff isn't getting imported from France anymore or something else is going on .

Anybody know anything?
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I like Imr 4350 better.
Link Posted: 3/7/2017 7:36:24 PM EST
Midsouth Shooters Supply has H4350 as of March 7th. Ordered some around noon and they are still showing in stock this evening.
Link Posted: 3/8/2017 3:49:00 AM EST
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Midsouth Shooters Supply has H4350 as of March 7th. Ordered some around noon and they are still showing in stock this evening.
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Put an order in at 0140hrs for 8lbs, still showing in stock. Checked my backordered cabelas h4350 order from november and it was recently cancelled without notice. Lets see how this MSS order goes.....

Thanks for the heads up.
Link Posted: 3/8/2017 2:19:52 PM EST
Darn it... already gone.... Thanks for pointing it out anyway.
Link Posted: 3/10/2017 6:08:28 PM EST
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I have seen H4350 pop up a few times over the past couple weeks. Sportsman's Warehouse had a last week. Mile High had it the week before. There is some on Gunbroker right now , but its spendy, 10lbs for $380.

I have personally never used H4350 as I am new to loading and dont feel like developing by loads with a power thats near impossible to find.

Had good results with:
IMR 4350
IMR 4451

have not yet tried RL 17 but have heard good things.



This is not the most encouraging chart but here you go:
Link Posted: 3/10/2017 6:49:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DenverDave:
I have seen H4350 pop up a few times over the past couple weeks. Sportsman's Warehouse had a last week. Mile High had it the week before. There is some on Gunbroker right now , but its spendy, 10lbs for $380.

I have personally never used H4350 as I am new to loading and dont feel like developing by loads with a power thats near impossible to find.

Had good results with:
IMR 4350
IMR 4451

have not yet tried RL 17 but have heard good things.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah75/Denverdave2014/Image-1%20copy_zpsruruumxt.jpg

This is not the most encouraging chart but here you go:
http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah75/Denverdave2014/50956382545__6017F986-B61C-4A7A-8C65-B66729CC4344_zpsn5be8mld.jpg
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17 is sensitive.  16 is supposed to be stable  
Link Posted: 3/13/2017 10:51:11 PM EST
I bought a bunch of Re-16 for my .270 Win hunting rifle. I'm getting 3180 with a 130gr. Nosler Partition out of a 24" barrel. Quite impressive. 

I haven't had a chance to use it in my 6.5 Creedmoor yet but my LGS was closing out their reloading section and I scored some 130gr Berger VLDs for 50% off. I think I'm going to try Re-16 with those.

Of course I still have 10lbs of H4350 but it's always better to use an available powder, right? 
Link Posted: 3/14/2017 4:44:00 PM EST
It is out there a distributor in Iowa has #1 and #8 on their shelves.
That is where our LGS has been getting it.
Link Posted: 3/19/2017 9:45:49 PM EST
Sheesh, sounds like I could make a buck buying it off the shelf here and reselling it.

If it weren't for that pesky hazmat fee anyway
Link Posted: 3/19/2017 9:54:02 PM EST
Hmmm. I have 40 lbs. I'm going to dump some on gun broker.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 11:53:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/19/2017 12:26:12 PM EST by Aby001]
Does anyone know where I can find either 1 or 8 lb's of H4350? I've got enough to load a couple hundred more rounds, my local shop has got 1 shipment in but it was all spoken for before I got there.

I've checked all the main online vendors with no luck in th past week.

ETA: Powder Valley got 1lb jugs in today, I got 10 which was the limit.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 6:50:37 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Aby001:
Does anyone know where I can find either 1 or 8 lb's of H4350? I've got enough to load a couple hundred more rounds, my local shop has got 1 shipment in but it was all spoken for before I got there.

I've checked all the main online vendors with no luck in th past week.

ETA: Powder Valley got 1lb jugs in today, I got 10 which was the limit.
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Nice...way to buy them out

Reloading Unlimited gets it pretty often, but most folks complain about their price being too high at $220 per 8lbs...but if you need it it's there pretty often and you can be on an email notifcation for when it comes back in stock.

Luckily I've got a LGS that gets it regularly and I have 56 lbs of it as of last week
Link Posted: 4/21/2017 5:13:09 PM EST
I just received my shipment of Ramshot HUNTER powder. This is a ball powder that is right up there with H4350 in terms of burn rate (fairly slow). I'll be reloading this weekend and testing the next.

I did not look for an alternative out of desperation (I have 16 pounds) but having other options ready to go is almost always a good idea.

You guys must be much more persnickety than I, or have loads that run the ragged edge of over-pressure, or something, as I have never had a significant temperature problem with any of my loads. Just keep your ammo out of the sun so it doesn't bake.
Link Posted: 4/21/2017 5:30:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer:
I just received my shipment of Ramshot HUNTER powder. This is a ball powder that is right up there with H4350 in terms of burn rate (fairly slow). I'll be reloading this weekend and testing the next.

I did not look for an alternative out of desperation (I have 16 pounds) but having other options ready to go is almost always a good idea.

You guys must be much more persnickety than I, or have loads that run the ragged edge of over-pressure, or something, as I have never had a significant temperature problem with any of my loads. Just keep your ammo out of the sun so it doesn't bake.
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Are people talking about temps incausing over pressure in general regardless of powder, or just powders other than H4350 not being as temp stable as H4350 and therefore causing poor performance?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 6:24:02 PM EST
I'm having success with IMR 4451.
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