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Originally Posted By sea2summit:
I'd second Grendel. Mine wants to play but it is suffering from bad glass right now, I've had a lot of groups that are really good but haven't shot it specifically for groups much. View Quote |
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Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature.
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
Grendel is the more interesting one to me. Mainly because already have a 6.5 CM. View Quote I like my current 6.5creedmoor, but I’m interested in trying another version. Still torn between the LT UU or the Seekins SP10 builders kit. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: I believe the 6.5 grendel will definitely be purchased. I’ve been wanting to try a 22grendel, so it would be a barrel and gas block swap to evaluate two grendels (assuming the bolt headspace with the second barrel). I like my current 6.5creedmoor, but I’m interested in trying another version. Still torn between the LT UU or the Seekins SP10 builders kit. View Quote |
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Yeah, with the builder kit, I would likely go with a second ballistic Advantage barrel or step up to a Bartlein. I’m honestly not sure if the gains are worth the price difference. I need to run my current 6.5 creed to see what it can do over 20-25rds.
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I've never gotten decent groups with the Magnetospeed attached.
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Tested the Berger 85.5’s two weekends ago, but the results were not very impressive. Perhaps it was the seating depth or the new brass or magazine I was using, but the groups were inconsistent to say the least. I didn’t have pressure issues at the upper charges (in my Rifles) and the groups did start to perform better at the top. The standard dev. were also sub 10fps once I went over 24.0grs. Unless these bullets can just deliver superb precision, I’m not sure they can beat out the 80 eld. It’s colder than when I first worked up the 80 eld load for the Rainier Arms barrel, and I think I need to add .1-.2grs of powder to get it back to shooting better. https://i.imgur.com/nRL9r7X.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iBXSp0D.jpg Note: The magnetospeed may have caused some of the fliers. Testing was primarily to see if I could get close to 2800fps, the target velocity to edge out the 80 eld’s. https://i.imgur.com/ZLnKqSf.jpg Initial testing of the Hornady black 75’s. https://i.imgur.com/hXSwt57.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8H8KNrl.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Mentioned in a previous thread to bfoosh06 that I’d give the JB bore paste a try on the BCA barrel that wasn’t consistent. The bore definitely could use some TLC since it looks pretty rough from a basic “look through the bore”. The feed ramps, which I noted upon receipt, were pretty rough as well. I decided to take 15-20 minutes to try and clean them up a bit as well prior to re-assembling the upper. https://i.imgur.com/Vcjlojc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XPxcWB1.jpg It would be great to get this barrel to shoot decent. In the past, it would shoot 3-4 rounds decently, then have 1-2 close to 1/2-1” away. View Quote Consistent, smooth gas tube / gas key interaction helps minimize fliers.... less chance of the janky , less then smooth consistent interaction altering everything else. I also suggest using a conical felt cone, and polish the gas keys entrance hole. While this won't be a magic solution .... it is part of the equation. |
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*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
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Not to hijack but where do you get those targets with the .5 grids and tiny red dots in the center?
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No groups from the weekend, but I did get out with my better half to shoot at distance. After being away from shooting for a bit, it felt good to have a chance to stretch out a few rifles.
Anyways, just a brief clip of a 224Valkyrie at 845-850yds. After letting my girlfriend shoot 2 strings of 5rds I decided to give it a go. Managed to go 5/5, but the impacts aren’t easy to see with mirage and the faint signature of a slow moving 90gr bullet. You can hear the faint sound of the first two, but background noise interferes with the rest. We also made repeatable hits on a 10” plate, but the video quality was terrible. 224VALKYRIE, WOA 22” RLG, 1:6.5t, FGMM 90 (1.4mil hold off) Raw vid....ignore the conversation 224valkyrie FGMM 90 850yds |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Fulton Armory .308 Apologies for the target...it was crumpled by a range patron. I made a scope adjustment following group #2 to ensure all rounds stayed on target. All rounds fired with a SAS Reaper Ti suppressor. The barrel is pretty consistent, but I’m not certain that the FGMM isn’t holding it back just a bit. It’s not uncommon to have 2-3rds in the same hole and then a few just outside. Averaged .84moa if discounting the called flier where I was “braked” by a shooter beside me on the top right target. https://i.imgur.com/m43jZS2.jpg 22” 6.5 Creedmoor, Ballistic Advantage H4350 and 140 eld’s and Hornady Factory 140eld. Mirage may have played a factor in groups 4 and 5. https://i.imgur.com/4axXw4W.jpg Two more groups of 5 following a cool down period. https://i.imgur.com/QuVZTxD.jpg And arrived home to an ammo order for more testing. Hoping the IMI is the same as the LR-Mod 1 from the past. https://i.imgur.com/8kJmnqe.jpg I’ll also have a Rainier Rock Creek heavy barrel to test in a few weeks. Picked it up off of the EE to evaluate a Rock barrel. https://i.imgur.com/yvxoxjU.jpg View Quote |
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Thanks again for everyone's effort on this thread!
Far as we know the Fulton M110 is a criterion barrel? |
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Very Nice !!
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*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
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Precision is addictive.
I really enjoy seeing the results from your testing. Thanks again for all your time and effort. |
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*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
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Just a heads up, but Rainier Arms is having a sale on their 224Valkyrie barrels. 224$, including the fluted versions. These are 1:7.5t, so not great for 90/95’s, but they do great with the 80’s.
Picked up a 24” +2 fluted to test the Berger 85.5’s and nuke the 80 eld’s. From what I understand, these won’t be available in the near future due to inconsistencies with factory ammo, but they may be revisited down the road (hopefully with a faster twist). But, if you’re a reloader, this is a smoking deal. |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Just a heads up, but Rainier Arms is having a sale on their 224Valkyrie barrels. 224$, including the fluted versions. These are 1:7.5t, so not great for 90/95’s, but they do great with the 80’s. Picked up a 24” +2 fluted to test the Berger 85.5’s and nuke the 80 eld’s. From what I understand, these won’t be available in the near future due to inconsistencies with factory ammo, but they may be revisited down the road (hopefully with a faster twist). But, if you’re a reloader, this is a smoking deal. View Quote |
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Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature.
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Just a heads up, but Rainier Arms is having a sale on their 224Valkyrie barrels. 224$, including the fluted versions. These are 1:7.5t, so not great for 90/95’s, but they do great with the 80’s. Picked up a 24” +2 fluted to test the Berger 85.5’s and nuke the 80 eld’s. From what I understand, these won’t be available in the near future due to inconsistencies with factory ammo, but they may be revisited down the road (hopefully with a faster twist). But, if you’re a reloader, this is a smoking deal. View Quote I saw they recently re-released their "select" line of barrels as well. Price point around $170. Nice budget option i am guessing. They are about $40 less than the match ones that go for $209 |
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Looks like you should let her do all the shooting
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Chicken Farmer by choice hunter of shade tree's and hiding spots by nature.
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Originally Posted By sparkyD:
I think that's the custom bolt gun but not sure. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By sea2summit: No, his customs do a touch better than that https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/326526/7F5C16CF-E2EC-4580-A927-43DC03112CBA_jpe-1294690.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Fulton Armory .m110 Tested with handloads to replicate FGMM 168’s. Initial loads were too hot. The second group showed the start of pressure signs so I stopped testing at that point. All of the other handloads were at that charge or slightly higher, so they were shelved till I can disassemble. Additional testing, if time with the upper allows, will be done with the first charge tested (middle) or lower. Note: Do not copy my loads. Follow safe reloading practices and work up to safe levels in your rifle. The cold bore shot was the impact outside of the cluster, if that matters to anyone. https://i.imgur.com/TPcQTEX.jpg View Quote Hmmm, looks pretty good. What pressure signs started appearing and what velocity where you at? |
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Originally Posted By sea2summit: Hmmm, looks pretty good. What pressure signs started appearing and what velocity where you at? View Quote Not sure on velocity; didn’t have the magnetospeed hooked up. Guess I’m still in my old habit of trying to read a target to get a solid load. I’ll toss it in a range bag for the next trip. 1/5 of the 41.8’s had a slight ejector mark. 4/5 of the 42.0’s had an ejector mark and 1/5 had slight/minor flattening of the primer. The 42.0 also was demonstrating that it was outside of the node and was beginning to scatter. I knew that the 42.2’s, 42.3 and 42.4’s would continue to be over pressure, even if they started into the next node for this barrel. |
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Question for those that view this thread. Would you rather see the Rainier Rock Creek 18” 223 or the 24” +2 WOA 224Valkyrie in the coming weeks? I’ve got the 223wylde built, but I’m considering stripping it down for the 224Valkyrie build. I’ve just received a case of the FGMM Berger 80.5’s and I’m curious what they’ll do. I realize not everyone is as thrilled with the 224Valkyrie as I have been, but I’ve had some great experiences with the cartridge.
Spoiler alert: there will be some LaRue Tactical UU’s tested in the near future. |
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Rock Creek as I have no interest in 224V.
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Question for those that view this thread. Would you rather see the Rainier Rock Creek 18” 223 or the 24” +2 WOA 224Valkyrie in the coming weeks? I’ve got the 223wylde built, but I’m considering stripping it down for the 224Valkyrie build. I’ve just received a case of the FGMM Berger 80.5’s and I’m curious what they’ll do. I realize not everyone is as thrilled with the 224Valkyrie as I have been, but I’ve had some great experiences with the cartridge. Spoiler alert: there will be some LaRue Tactical UU’s tested in the near future. View Quote Typical arfcom answer: both. Appreciate all your efforts and diligence in keeping this thread updated. |
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Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
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Originally Posted By sommere54: Typical arfcom answer: both. Appreciate all your efforts and diligence in keeping this thread updated. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sommere54: Originally Posted By SuperJlarge: Question for those that view this thread. Would you rather see the Rainier Rock Creek 18” 223 or the 24” +2 WOA 224Valkyrie in the coming weeks? I’ve got the 223wylde built, but I’m considering stripping it down for the 224Valkyrie build. I’ve just received a case of the FGMM Berger 80.5’s and I’m curious what they’ll do. I realize not everyone is as thrilled with the 224Valkyrie as I have been, but I’ve had some great experiences with the cartridge. Spoiler alert: there will be some LaRue Tactical UU’s tested in the near future. Typical arfcom answer: both. Appreciate all your efforts and diligence in keeping this thread updated. This. I'd say the 224v 1st, though. I have 2, both with LT matched barrels/bolts. They both seem to like Hornady Match 88 gr. |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'll stick my dick in a WorkSharp before I let you try to sharpen anything of mine.
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