User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
USA
|
Posted: 10/17/2016 10:50:04 AM EDT
Three rifles with threaded 20" 1:11.25 5r barrels, but three different price points. What are the differences I'm not seeing? Remington's website is useless when trying to compare to similar models, but I somewhat understand why the 5r is more expensive than the other two since the barrel is fluted. Other than that, what would y'all go with? New to the precision game, so any input is greatly appreciated.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2016 3:10:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cruze5]
[#1]
links to rifles?
i've never seen a model P with 5r rifling i own 2 5R rifles. the 223 that doesn't shoot. the 300WM is an excellent shooter |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/17/2016 3:21:01 PM EDT
[#2]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2016 6:12:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PsRpOiGrRiAtM]
[#3]
I had seen the 700P 5R for a lot more money than the Gen2 and Gen1 Stainless, but then for a while late last year, there were links to deals for those 700P guns under $1k, and I can only imagine that various supply houses were dumping excess inventory to flush out by year's end.
Now, as far as differences, the Gen1 doesn't have cerakote, tactical (large) bolt knob, nor does it have fluting. The Gen2 has all those things, thus the upcharge. The real differences that I see off the top would be the fluting on the Gen2 and the 40x trigger on the 700P. The rest is just aesthetics. ETA** Badger 0 MOA rail on the 700P, which could be a plus or a minus depending on what your end goals are--it's nice to have a rail on there from the get-go, but if you truly expect to reach out (1000yds is usualy the benchmark) you'll need a rail with some MOA built into it, especially using a .308. I found a used 300 Win Mag in the Gen1 configuration, and got it because I couldn't beat the price. Otherwise I would've opted for the newer Gen2 version because I really like the looks of it, and would like to have a slightly lighter gun (accomplished with the fluting.) I really don't think you would be disappointed in whichever model you chose, honestly. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/17/2016 7:31:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cruze5]
[#4]
interesting. my 223 is considered the Milspec then according to that website.. the greenish stock with stainless barrel
honestly i would get the Gen 2 with a good base. the Rem Defense you would most likely have to replace the included 0 MOA base.. and then any remington i buy i would get a timney trigger |
|
|
|
CO, USA
|
Posted: 10/17/2016 9:08:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: roamin]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By the444shooter:
I had seen the 700P 5R for a lot more money than the Gen2 and Gen1 Stainless, but then for a while late last year, there were links to deals for those 700P guns under $1k, and I can only imagine that various supply houses were dumping excess inventory to flush out by year's end. Now, as far as differences, the Gen1 doesn't have cerakote, tactical (large) bolt knob, nor does it have fluting. The Gen2 has all those things, thus the upcharge. The real differences that I see off the top would be the fluting on the Gen2 and the 40x trigger on the 700P. The rest is just aesthetics. ETA** Badger 0 MOA rail on the 700P, which could be a plus or a minus depending on what your end goals are--it's nice to have a rail on there from the get-go, but if you truly expect to reach out (1000yds is usualy the benchmark) you'll need a rail with some MOA built into it, especially using a .308. I found a used 300 Win Mag in the Gen1 configuration, and got it because I couldn't beat the price. Otherwise I would've opted for the newer Gen2 version because I really like the looks of it, and would like to have a slightly lighter gun (accomplished with the fluting.) I really don't think you would be disappointed in whichever model you chose, honestly. I wouldn't sweat the flutes. There's only two and I'd be surprised if they took off much weight. There's a guy on YouTube that took his gen 1 apart and painted all the stainless OD and it looked great. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2016 9:35:37 AM EDT
[#6]
I would avoid the fluted barrel, it adds no benefit but can cause more POI shift.
|
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/18/2016 10:08:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By popnfresh:
I would avoid the fluted barrel, it adds no benefit but can cause more POI shift. Oh, how so? Genuinely curious how the flutes can cause a poi shift. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2016 11:38:01 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Oh, how so? Genuinely curious how the flutes can cause a poi shift. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By popnfresh:
I would avoid the fluted barrel, it adds no benefit but can cause more POI shift. Oh, how so? Genuinely curious how the flutes can cause a poi shift. The barrel is less rigid than one of the same diameter without flutes so there is more shift with heat. |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/18/2016 11:39:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Izhevsk54r]
[#9]
Originally Posted By the444shooter:
I had seen the 700P 5R for a lot more money than the Gen2 and Gen1 Stainless, but then for a while late last year, there were links to deals for those 700P guns under $1k, and I can only imagine that various supply houses were dumping excess inventory to flush out by year's end. Now, as far as differences, the Gen1 doesn't have cerakote, tactical (large) bolt knob, nor does it have fluting. The Gen2 has all those things, thus the upcharge. The real differences that I see off the top would be the fluting on the Gen2 and the 40x trigger on the 700P. The rest is just aesthetics. ETA** Badger 0 MOA rail on the 700P, which could be a plus or a minus depending on what your end goals are--it's nice to have a rail on there from the get-go, but if you truly expect to reach out (1000yds is usualy the benchmark) you'll need a rail with some MOA built into it, especially using a .308. I found a used 300 Win Mag in the Gen1 configuration, and got it because I couldn't beat the price. Otherwise I would've opted for the newer Gen2 version because I really like the looks of it, and would like to have a slightly lighter gun (accomplished with the fluting.) I really don't think you would be disappointed in whichever model you chose, honestly. 0 MOA isn't a deal breaker for how far I want/can shoot right now. If/when I move up to a 20 MOA rail I'll also likely open up the base holes to 8-40 |
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 10/21/2016 7:03:25 PM EDT
[#10]
is a Tikka CTR worth a look over the above options?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/23/2016 9:17:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
is a Tikka CTR worth a look over the above options? Yes. IMO, I wouldn't buy anything from Remington...too many QC issues. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/24/2016 1:16:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By roamin:
I wouldn't sweat the flutes. There's only two and I'd be surprised if they took off much weight. There's a guy on YouTube that took his gen 1 apart and painted all the stainless OD and it looked great. three |
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
