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Posted: 10/5/2008 3:14:36 AM EST
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I live in northern part of lower michigan, and the DNR have shot 3 of those cougars in the last two years in my aera!
We have bobcat also, but there alot more hairy in the face and body! That there for sure is a cougar! |
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Bob Cat. Mountain Lions have tails and dont have black spots and the head is all wrong for a puma.
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dont bobcats have tufted ears? |
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The pic isnt good enought to see the black tuffs. Look at the fur on the side of his head. No way thats a puma. You cant hide there 3 foor tail. |
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Cant you guys see the black spots on the fur? Look at the way the fur grows along the bottom of its head. Thats a bobcat.
It would make it a lot easier if you had somthing for size referance but I bet money thats not a puma |
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I can see how the picture quality makes it look similar to a bigger cat, but I think it's a Bobcat in it's Summer coat. I've seen several while hunting. One walked up to me within 5 feet once as I was sitting at the base of a tree. They really are beautiful animals.
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+1 It's a Bobcat. The spots are the easiest clue. |
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That is a bobcat - the spotting, head formation, and general poise say that for sure. I've seen both plenty of times in the wild, and lying dead on the ground. Cougars do not tuck their tails, you would see it regardless due to it's length and size.
It's a bobcat. |
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I would say it's a bobcat. I don't think cougars have spots like that. But I'm no expert.
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Looks like a kind of thistle, but the cat is in the way and I'm not sure
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Chupacabra. No doubt whatsoever. They remain hidden by impersonating other animals. In this case, the photographer caught it in mid-morph from a bobcat to a cougar. Rare, but a very well documented phenomena by leading global warming scientists.
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Cougar, I've seen a bobcat in the wild although never shot one but it damned sure didnt look like the pic. Very cougar-ish to me.
btw, I've never been wrong about anything......ever. |
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I'm 5 bazillion percent positive. that should be enough for your friend |
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Cougar, Feline type. NOT to be mistaken with Cougar, Female type. The female type is usually found in off-campus bars and such.
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my vote is cougar.. look at the neck on that thing ... and the muscle formations are bit prominent for any bobcats ive seen... there a bit furrier than that around my neck of the woods
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It's definitely bigger and stronger than this one pictured, but I don't see any muscle formation in the neck. Just the legs. I still vote bobcat. Since I voted twice does that make it so? |
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I vote Bobcat also.... But 2nd Vote is it's a TARGET.... Do we Snipe it ? It don't have a collar so it's not a pet....
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The real question now is what's the best round to shoot it with |
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I think that it is a cougar, and if it is a bobcat, that thing is huge. Why dont you just go shoot it, take some hight quality pics and then come back and report. |
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Good plan. However, no tag this year |
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Cant you guys see the black spots on the fur? Look at the way the fur grows along the bottom of its head. Thats a bobcat. It would make it a lot easier if you had something for size reference but I bet money thats not a puma +1 It's a Bobcat. The spots are the easiest clue. +1 bobcat |
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I say mountain lion. There's no doubt that there are cougars around your area. They've found them in Pennsylvania, and before the settlers came mountain lions used to cover over 75% of North America. Their range was almost all of the continental US so its no surprise that they're moving back into the areas that they once inhabited. The Wildlife and Parks here in Kansas claims that they aren't here but they are. I know plenty of people who have seen them and last year a guy in central Kansas killed one. That's too big to be a bobcat, the ears are rounded(at least it looks like it to me), and I don't see any spots but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Just look at the way its built, bobcats don't have broad shoulders like that and they're skinnier. See if you get any more pictures of it and post them if you do.
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Yes, no questions asked its a 'BOBCAT' end of story thread ended.
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Cougar Identification
The cougar has on overall coat color of tan or tawny, but can vary from reddish, yellowish, or grayish. The belly, undersides, inside of legs, and chin are white or creamy colored. The tip of the tail is black and some black also occurs on the front of the muzzle below the nose. The back of the ears of cougars are solid black or gray in color and do not include white patches as found in lynx and bobcat. Black phases of cougars have not been documented in North American cougars, although the black color phase has been found in South American cougars. The Florida panther is a cougar that lives in southern Florida, but is also tan or reddish brown in color. Young cougars have dark brown spots that last until the cats are about 9 months old, although careful examination of a 1-year old might show some faint spots. The spots are completely gone by the time the cougar is 2 years old. Cougars can be separated from bobcat and lynx by larger size, tan coat with solid tan color, long rope-like tail, lack of ear tufts, and solid black or gray on the back of ears. Bobcats normally weigh 15 to 50 pounds, and lynx weigh 15 to 30 pounds (the thick fur of lynx makes them look heavier, but large adult male bobcats achieve greater weights than male lynx). Bobcat and lynx often have some spots on their coats, although these spots are sometimes not very visible, and some may look more solid in color. The inside legs of lynx and bobcats have dark spots that are in contrast to bright white fur; cougars don’t have these spots unless it is a young animal, less than 1 year of age. Bobcats and lynx have a bright white patch on the back of the ears that is oval or triangular in appearance; cougars do not possess this patch and have solid colored ears of black or dark gray. Both lynx and bobcat have short tails, being 5-7 inches in size on bobcat and 4 to 5 inches in size on lynx. Both bobtailed cats have pointed ears with ear tufts that are somewhat longer on lynx, but cougars have rounded ears with no ear tufts. Bobcat and lynx also have sideburn cheek whiskers, not found on cougars. That is taken from the DNR site. Basically, it is impossible to tell from that picture. Cougars one year and younger do have spots so the age can both explain the size of the animal and the presence of spots. Since we can't see the back of the cats ears or the tail/lack there of then there is no way to tell. This argument without anymore pictures is like asking the question, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" |
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cougar. they are also spotted in and around harrington beach
and that pic was not taken recently cause i see leaves and grass in that pic |
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Cant you guys see the black spots on the fur? Look at the way the fur grows along the bottom of its head. Thats a bobcat. It would make it a lot easier if you had somthing for size referance but I bet money thats not a puma +1 Also, note the fur on it's face sticking out on the side. |
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How are you guys seeing that as a mountain lion? Can you not see the markings along its face and lower body? Its clearly a bobcat.
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Black tip on the ears, spots on the legs, a noticeable mane under the ears on the cheeks and no tail. Also unless you have gigantic grasses/weeds from the dinasour era in your neack of the woods I would have to say your right, Bobcat. Still a damn cool pic.
Also if it was/is a lion don't tell anybody or the antis will be all over you trying to protect it by stoping hunts and taking away trapping rights just like their doing here in Maine over the stupid NON-ENDANGED linx. |
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