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Posted: 7/1/2012 5:01:35 PM EDT
No power here in MD, with about 400,000 of my friends.

I have the generator buzzing along with my stabilized gas I had so the fridge was happy but the 100+ degree heat was unbearable.  I retreated to the basement where it was about 75ish.

I usually like to venture out and see what the folks are buying or scrambling for and make sure I'm stocked up when the panic goes away.  I seem to have done fairly well this time except for a window A/C, which I now have after picking one up at lowes.  That should make sleeping tonight go way better with the generator.

Time to look into a stanby generator.  I have the funds, so I think it's a good use.  First time I've ever lost power in about 10 years for any duration over a few minutes.  Turns out, I don't like being hot.

I always had heaters and propane for winter power problems, but never thought about the intense heat.
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 5:12:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2012 5:12:33 PM EDT by rusteerooster]
maybe one of those big ass whole house generator units.....
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 5:21:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rusteerooster:
maybe one of those big ass whole house generator units.....


That's where I'm going to be I think.  My current portable one is a 3500 watt.
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 5:26:10 PM EDT
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 5:36:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2012 5:45:46 PM EDT by CJan_NH]
Originally Posted By Elbow27k:
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower


Even here in rural NH there were several attempts to cut the galvanized chain and steal my genset after the 2008 ice storm

Reliance makes a handy little alarm that beeps when it's power is cut. You can plug it into an extension cord or an outlet that is powered by your genset. When the genset shuts down or is disconnected it goes off. It's not designed as a theft deterrent to a thief, but rather as an audible cue to you when something happens to your backup power. Mine wasn't very loud, so I replaced the beeper with a loud piezo electric buzzer from Radio Shack. There are a few outlets connected to my transfer switch that are always powered, and this little alarm is always plugged into one of them

I'll try to find a link-I think is was around twenty bucks.

ETA-Here's one of them:

LINK

Here's a much better one (we use these at work):

LINK
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 5:51:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2012 5:51:39 PM EDT by SparticleBrane]
Very nice –– thanks for the suggestion.

Those are sure to get my attention; the constant buzzing/beeping from a UPS unit after the power goes out drives me nuts.  I would imagine that this is just as obnoxious.
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 5:54:25 PM EDT
Also a Harbor Freet wireless IR driveway alarm for abt $18 and with the sensor placed strategically will give you some advance notice.

Plus a game cam and you're all set.

Link Posted: 7/1/2012 6:18:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
Very nice –– thanks for the suggestion.

Those are sure to get my attention; the constant buzzing/beeping from a UPS unit after the power goes out drives me nuts.  I would imagine that this is just as obnoxious.

I would strongly suggest paying the few extra bucks for the second one I listed. The first one won't be loud enough to get your attention unless you mod it like I did. It's consumer grade, and the second one is more commercial grade. The second one will sure as hell get your attention.

Expy, is there a particular IR sensor that you suggest-does HF has more than one?

I'd love to have more early warning capability. After the 2008 storm it would take several seconds to grab the AR and bolt outside. If the burglars were smarter, they would have defeated my lock/chain first, and THEN shut it down. Instead they shut it down first and then went to work...thank God they were stupid.



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Link Posted: 7/1/2012 6:28:29 PM EDT
Look into Dakota Alert for driveway alarms.

We've got the one good for 2,500 feet, and it works great.  Not the mag detector, but the motion/IR detector.
Link Posted: 7/1/2012 7:39:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2012 7:41:44 PM EDT by EXPY37]
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
Very nice –– thanks for the suggestion.

Those are sure to get my attention; the constant buzzing/beeping from a UPS unit after the power goes out drives me nuts.  I would imagine that this is just as obnoxious.

I would strongly suggest paying the few extra bucks for the second one I listed. The first one won't be loud enough to get your attention unless you mod it like I did. It's consumer grade, and the second one is more commercial grade. The second one will sure as hell get your attention.

Expy, is there a particular IR sensor that you suggest-does HF has more than one?

I'd love to have more early warning capability. After the 2008 storm it would take several seconds to grab the AR and bolt outside. If the burglars were smarter, they would have defeated my lock/chain first, and THEN shut it down. Instead they shut it down first and then went to work...thank God they were stupid.



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Dis one, it has a MULTITUDE of possibilities including hacks to make it trigger other than from the IR sensor. Transmit range is good and it can be improved where legal.





Link Posted: 7/1/2012 7:41:05 PM EDT
For example you could lay it somewhere and cover the IR window with something that is likely to be disturbed if a perp is around.

Like at a genny.


Link Posted: 7/1/2012 7:59:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
For example you could lay it somewhere and cover the IR window with something that is likely to be disturbed if a perp is around.

Like at a genny.



Be honest, you were a criminal mastermind in a prior life, correct?



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Link Posted: 7/1/2012 11:10:19 PM EDT
EXPY37,

Could you enlighten us as to some other ideas and uses for those HF driveway alarms?  I know I would certainly be interested if you had some unique uses.  

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 2:57:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Elbow27k:
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower


Same issues back during the '98 eastern seaboard ice storm and wind storm prolonged outtages.
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 4:43:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Elbow27k:
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower


Did this after Hurricane Charley as well
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 3:55:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Elbow27k:
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower


Did this really happen or just urban legend?
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 4:05:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By dawg69:
EXPY37,

Could you enlighten us as to some other ideas and uses for those HF driveway alarms?  I know I would certainly be interested if you had some unique uses.  



What do you need to do?
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 8:01:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
Very nice –– thanks for the suggestion.

Those are sure to get my attention; the constant buzzing/beeping from a UPS unit after the power goes out drives me nuts.  I would imagine that this is just as obnoxious.

I would strongly suggest paying the few extra bucks for the second one I listed. The first one won't be loud enough to get your attention unless you mod it like I did. It's consumer grade, and the second one is more commercial grade. The second one will sure as hell get your attention.

Expy, is there a particular IR sensor that you suggest-does HF has more than one?

I'd love to have more early warning capability. After the 2008 storm it would take several seconds to grab the AR and bolt outside. If the burglars were smarter, they would have defeated my lock/chain first, and THEN shut it down. Instead they shut it down first and then went to work...thank God they were stupid.



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What did you do to "dissuade" the thieves from stealing your genny?
Link Posted: 7/2/2012 9:56:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By dawg69:
EXPY37,

Could you enlighten us as to some other ideas and uses for those HF driveway alarms?  I know I would certainly be interested if you had some unique uses.  



What do you need to do?


Nothing in particular.  I have one of those alarms and am always intrigued by "outside the box" ideas for use.  It sounded like you eluded to having other modifications or uses, so I thought I would inquire.

Link Posted: 7/3/2012 7:08:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By showpare:
Originally Posted By Elbow27k:
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower


Did this really happen or just urban legend?


I can't say if that actually happened up here, but I do remember the story during the outage.  There were reports of a number of generators being stolen during the aftermath, including a couple of Verizon portable units brought out to power substations.  Mine was big a$$ chained around the axle of our 3rd auto.

You should have seen the line at Home Depot after it was all over returning their generators. I was almost as long as the line during the storm for people buying units.  For some reason they were not what the folks needed or didn't work properly.  What a bunch a tools.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 8:48:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Fat_Boy:

You should have seen the line at Home Depot after it was all over returning their generators. I was almost as long as the line during the storm for people buying units.  For some reason they were not what the folks needed or didn't work properly.  What a bunch a tools.


That would be "fools"
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 10:04:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By Fat_Boy:

You should have seen the line at Home Depot after it was all over returning their generators. I was almost as long as the line during the storm for people buying units.  For some reason they were not what the folks needed or didn't work properly.  What a bunch a tools.


That would be "fools"


No I stand by Tools, "richards".  They came and snapped up generators used them for a week and then returned them for a refund after the event was over.  I will say HD went out of their way to get generators up here to the Northeast from all over the country at considerable expense.  They didn't jack up the price like some of the other stores did.  A friend of mine bought a Honda from a small dealer and was told the price was +$1000 over what ever was marked on the unit when he arrived.  I was very disappointed in my Fellow Mainers.
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 11:19:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Fat_Boy:
Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By Fat_Boy:

You should have seen the line at Home Depot after it was all over returning their generators. I was almost as long as the line during the storm for people buying units.  For some reason they were not what the folks needed or didn't work properly.  What a bunch a tools.


That would be "fools"


No I stand by Tools, "richards".  They came and snapped up generators used them for a week and then returned them for a refund after the event was over.  I will say HD went out of their way to get generators up here to the Northeast from all over the country at considerable expense.  They didn't jack up the price like some of the other stores did.  A friend of mine bought a Honda from a small dealer and was told the price was +$1000 over what ever was marked on the unit when he arrived.  I was very disappointed in my Fellow Mainers.

I have a colleague whose husband works at a local Home Depot. He said that after the 2008 ice storm, over 50% of the gensets they sold during the outage were returned shortly after power was restored
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 11:27:43 AM EDT
Thats why in every store I walk into that sells gennys they have a huge sign posted saying "all generator sales are final"  unfortunately it shouldnt have to be like that if people were prepped to begin with
Link Posted: 7/3/2012 1:24:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/3/2012 1:30:25 PM EDT by Remyrw]
Originally Posted By showpare:
Originally Posted By Elbow27k:
a word of adivce, chain up and lock your gen. i remember in Katrina people were stealing them alot. They would walk up with a running lawnmower (since they both sound alike when not paying attn) and drive a car up, and snatch then gen. at least they left ya a mower


Did this really happen or just urban legend?


Didn't see it for myself but it was told to me by a couple LEOs. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
I was living down there at the time and the LEOs were a mix of local and state folks, so either it was a very wide spread rumor very early on, or a memo went out. Whether the memo was true or not is another story.

Edit to add:
The policy now for HD is that generator sales are final, once you buy a genny from them it's yours. If it doesn't work they'll swap it out or credit it toward a different model. Since the storm models are often not the same ones the store always carries the exchanges might find you getting a free upgrade but only if they can't fix it, and let's face it, they're pretty easily fixed most of the time when you have access to the company's supply chain for parts.
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