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Posted: 10/4/2012 12:42:26 PM EDT
I spent a bit of time in January in mid-MN with my '03 F250.  Normally, where I live I can run dino 15w40 all year round.  I found out the hard way it ain't so up there.





My truck and I were totally unprepared for -0 temps.  I may end up back there again this winter, and want to be ready for it.  





Someone here recommend that I run a synthetic and lighter weight oil if northern climate in the winter is a probability, but dang if I can find that thread.  I'd rather not have the thing be jumping, farting, shaking, rattling, and generally misbehaving for 20 min while it gets warm this time.





Thanks,


-Slice






ETA:  Poll




 
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 12:55:43 PM EDT
Insert snarky remark about petrol here....





I am very fond of Mobil 1, though I do not know what they offer in diesel rated oils.





ETA Look look look 5W40 http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.aspx




 
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 1:11:06 PM EDT
Most common among duramax snowplow guys around here is Shell Rotella-t synthetic 5-40 I think you can buy it a sams club at a decent price.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 1:16:03 PM EDT
All I use in my '09 6.4 is M1 5W-40TD.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 1:16:41 PM EDT
I use Rotella 5w40 too.  Also use the power service anti-gel in every winter fill up as a precaution and carry extra fuel filters.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 1:43:12 PM EDT
Quoted:
Most common among duramax snowplow guys around here is Shell Rotella-t synthetic 5-40 I think you can buy it a sams club at a decent price.


Yep, I run the T-6 (I think, it's whatever their synthetic is). You'll be happy with it. I run it year round, good stuuf and cheap at Wal-Mart. I think I'm up to 215k on my '02 dmax.

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Link Posted: 10/4/2012 1:49:06 PM EDT
Rotella synthetic never failed in my 06' Duramax
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 6:34:37 PM EDT
Another vote for Shell Rotella 5W-40 T-6 synthetic.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 6:57:22 PM EDT
In the winter we always switch our loader tractor from 15-40 to 10w-30.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 7:56:32 PM EDT
Quoted:
Another vote for Shell Rotella 5W-40 T-6 synthetic.


Make it two..

Ops

Link Posted: 10/4/2012 8:04:29 PM EDT
John Deere +50 is what I run in everything all year long.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 8:28:12 PM EDT
Does the owners manual have any suggestions?

Also, how much of a pain is it to get a block heater installed? Some of the newer trucks it just screws into the block, no need to drop a freeze plug like the old days.
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 8:53:00 PM EDT



Quoted:


Does the owners manual have any suggestions?



Also, how much of a pain is it to get a block heater installed? Some of the newer trucks it just screws into the block, no need to drop a freeze plug like the old days.


Thanks, everybody.  Maybe I'll add a poll



I do have a block heater, but the hotel I stayed at wouldn't let me plug it in.  I even had a 100' extension cord and HD timer in the back just for that.  And I always carry extra filters, tools to change them, and run power service when the forecast is < +15-20*F.



Owners manual suggests 10w30 winter, 15w40 summer, but has a sliding scale with each (15w40 going down to about +5*f).  I've been unsuccessful in finding any CI-4 rated 10w30 locally –– for years.





 
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 9:59:47 PM EDT
Have the biggest battery's you can. Heaters for them help also and the same for the battery tenders.


There is a propane fired engine heater out there but i haven't seen it in a while.


Here is one type.

http://www.translectricinc.com/catalog/partdetail.aspx?PartNo=LP6500-12V




Rotella, and Delo are darn good oils.





Have run 0w-30 delo in dsl/gas to be able to start them with no trouble.


From the 5.9 all the way to some 12 cylinders air cooled motors.




 
Link Posted: 10/4/2012 10:10:11 PM EDT
Caribou,



I'm probably not going to wander as far north as you are...!



The problem wasn't the batteries, it would crank forever.  But once it got started, it jumped and shook like it was on acid surrounded by cops.  I think this is because of the heavy oil I had in it, and the common fuel rail design of the engine (where oil pressure has an impact on fuel pressure –– somehow, over my head).  If that's not the case, then perhaps a new, more expensive oil isn't the solution to whatever my problem was/is?



Thanks,

Slice




 
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 3:31:51 AM EDT
Rotella T6.

$22-ish a gallon at Walmart.
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 4:13:29 AM EDT
I have a '97 F250 7.3.  220k miles.  The part of Michigan I live in does get cold.  We can expect 3 weeks or more of below 0° weather each winter.  I hunt in the U.P. also & we've seen -30° on occasion in November.  I have had no problems using Rotella 5w40 non-sythetic since the truck was new.



When below 20°F and no power to plug the heater in, the starting procedure I use is to roll the key on, let the glow plugs warm until the "wait to start" light goes out.  I then turn the key off, roll it back on again, wait about 5 seconds after the 'wait' light goes out & it'll start up.  I have never had to use starting fluid to get it running.



When it's below 0° I usually let it idle and warm up for 10-15 minutes.



As important as oil, a fuel conditioner is very important when operating in temperatures near 0°.  I use Power Service Supplement starting when temps stay below freezing.





Link Posted: 10/5/2012 5:03:40 AM EDT
Do you have room in your truck for one of those little portable generators?

If the hotel tells you no, just fire up the genny for an hour before you check out.
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 6:29:14 AM EDT
Run what your engine calls for. There should be recommended weights in your owners manual for "normal" average temps and lower or higher average temps. The only change I would make is to run whatever weight it calls for in full synthetic. My preference is Castrol for full synthetic, and Rotella for conventional.
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 4:59:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 5:12:00 PM EDT
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.  I've been unsuccessful in finding any CI-4 rated 10w30 locally –– for years.

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Try your friendly local Ford dealer.
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 5:29:39 PM EDT
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[quote
.  I've been unsuccessful in finding any CI-4 rated 10w30 locally –– for years.

 



Try your friendly local Ford dealer.
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If this is the 6.0 engine, it used high pressure oil to actuate the fuel injectors so it will be sensitive to thick oil. The 5W-40 synthetics should do nicely. The next generation of engines (6.4, 6.7) use electronic fuel injectors so thick oil will have less effect, though 5W-40 synthetic is still a good thing to use. I have the 6.4 and I use M1 5W-40 synthetic year round with no complaints.

One of those $100 2 cycle 800W Harbor Freight generators is cheap and small to keep on board to allow you to run the block heater for a bit before starting after a cold night with no plug-in location available.
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 6:04:03 PM EDT
Use it in our diesel trucks and VW tdi's for -25 f.




Quoted:





Quoted:


Another vote for Shell Rotella 5W-40 T-6 synthetic.






Make it two..





Ops





Although it is nice to be a ditz and have the Xterra for most of our winter excursions these days.
 
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