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Posted: 12/16/2010 8:40:02 AM EDT
I have been lurking and posting small tidbits of the small info that I know in preppin. I want to thank all of you for your wisdom and knowledge. This really has become my favorite place to surf.

So, I have a quick question, it was brought up on another thread about keeping stuff in your car without it getting too hot in the summer. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with fix-a-flat. I used it once when I was in a bind and it worked really well. I am wondering if it could be possible to keep a can of it in my car in my Get Home Bag. My reasoning is that if SHTF, I might not have time or be able to put on the spare.

On the can it says not to keep in your car because of the pressure of the can and high heat. I really think it could be a useful tool but I'm wondering how and if it can be done. Any thoughts or suggestions from the Hive?
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 8:41:38 AM EDT
[#1]
Slime is a much better product, plus its not pressurized.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 8:47:23 AM EDT
[#2]
I have kept some for a time in my truck and never had it blow or leak.  But I wouldn't keep it in with stuff I don't want messed up just in case.  Might think about wrapping it in a towel too because most things under pressure spew everywhere when ruptured.  
Never used Slime.  I have used fix a flat several times over that last 20 years or so.  Tire changers don't like it because its messy but when its a choice between my daughter having to change a tire at night on the side of the road or using a can of this and getting home, hell I'd buy a new tire if I had to.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 8:53:45 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I have kept some for a time in my truck and never had it blow or leak.  But I wouldn't keep it in with stuff I don't want messed up just in case.  Might think about wrapping it in a towel too because most things under pressure spew everywhere when ruptured.  
Never used Slime.  I have used fix a flat several times over that last 20 years or so.  Tire changers don't like it because its messy but when its a choice between my daughter having to change a tire at night on the side of the road or using a can of this and getting home, hell I'd buy a new tire if I had to.


Those are my thoughts exactly. I'd rather my wife be able to a least get home and then I'll worry about the tire later. Good call on keeping things separated. I'll probably put it in a seal-able plastic bag of some kind and maybe even keep it in a separate bag if necessary. So, has anyone ever kept on in their car in the heat for an extended amount of time?
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 8:58:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have kept some for a time in my truck and never had it blow or leak.  But I wouldn't keep it in with stuff I don't want messed up just in case.  Might think about wrapping it in a towel too because most things under pressure spew everywhere when ruptured.  
Never used Slime.  I have used fix a flat several times over that last 20 years or so.  Tire changers don't like it because its messy but when its a choice between my daughter having to change a tire at night on the side of the road or using a can of this and getting home, hell I'd buy a new tire if I had to.


Those are my thoughts exactly. I'd rather my wife be able to a least get home and then I'll worry about the tire later. Good call on keeping things separated. I'll probably put it in a seal-able plastic bag of some kind and maybe even keep it in a separate bag if necessary. So, has anyone ever kept on in their car in the heat for an extended amount of time?


I have one in the wife's mini-van going over a year now.  It is in the back which has tinted windows and it is in a bag with her other vehicle neccesties, which keeps it out of the direct sunlight.  I have one in my vehicle preps tupperware box behind the seat.  Again, tinted window, closed container with no direct sunlight.  So far, no Kaboom HISSSSSSSSS.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 8:58:04 AM EDT
[#5]
sorry, ichy trigger finger on the mouse.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 9:20:26 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd just like to add about that stuff - if you use it get your tire replaced or repaired ASAP.

It has a habit of eating the paint off of your wheels on the inside, making it impossible to seat the bead with a new tire unless you replace the wheel.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 9:59:57 AM EDT
[#7]
It is purely an emergency product, and what you are describing would be an emergency. I would not put a can of it in a bag with everything else that I may need. It typically uses propane for a propellant and has a high level of ammonia in it. The ammonia should it leak would ruin everything in your bag and if a metal can won't contain a burst a plastic bag certainly won't.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:07:02 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I'd just like to add about that stuff - if you use it get your tire replaced or repaired ASAP.

It has a habit of eating the paint aluminum off of your wheels on the inside, making it impossible to seat the bead with a new tire unless you replace the wheel.





 trust me....
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:09:12 AM EDT
[#9]
I've never had Fix-a-flat blow up, but I have had the stuff freeze.  It won't work frozen.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:29:42 AM EDT
[#10]
I dont trust the stuff. I started keeping a small compressor in the truck
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:44:56 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I dont trust the stuff. I started keeping a small compressor in the truck


This is the best choice.

That and a simple tire plug kit you can get for about $5 is a far better alternative.

Slime was made for lazy people.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:59:28 AM EDT
[#12]
Fix a flat and slime will fuck up a tire pressure sensor.  They may make a flat unrepairable too, causing you to replace your tire.  

These things should be used on wheel barrels and wagons, not autos that jet down the freeway at 80mph +.

I carry plugs and a pump.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 12:16:42 PM EDT
[#13]
+1 i carry a complete patch kit and compressor in my jeep, a valve stem tool,plus a full sized spare of course
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 2:48:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I have been lurking and posting small tidbits of the small info that I know in preppin. I want to thank all of you for your wisdom and knowledge. This really has become my favorite place to surf.

So, I have a quick question, it was brought up on another thread about keeping stuff in your car without it getting too hot in the summer. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with fix-a-flat. I used it once when I was in a bind and it worked really well. I am wondering if it could be possible to keep a can of it in my car in my Get Home Bag. My reasoning is that if SHTF, I might not have time or be able to put on the spare.

On the can it says not to keep in your car because of the pressure of the can and high heat. I really think it could be a useful tool but I'm wondering how and if it can be done. Any thoughts or suggestions from the Hive?


I've carried cans of the stuff for years.   Never any problems with bursts/leaks.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 3:59:35 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I'd just like to add about that stuff - if you use it get your tire replaced or repaired ASAP.

It has a habit of eating the paint off of your wheels on the inside, making it impossible to seat the bead with a new tire unless you replace the wheel.


i dont know about that.  i had a leaky tire that was brand new, used fix a flat and drove it for the remainder of its life, or about 30,000 miles more. I even went on a 1200 mile round trip with it in there and on the highway in VA hit a speed of 117MPH. I wasnt afraid one bit about keeping the stuff in the tire and i used it on the highway all the time. this was a front tire on a brand new 2000 dodge neon.  i swear by fix a flat.

I keep 2 cans in my spare tire well under the tire in the void under the rim or next to it. i always replace the cans every two years, so thats 2 summers and 2 winters of hot and cold.  most of the time i end up using a can on a tractor tire and have to replace  it yearly.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 5:40:30 PM EDT
[#16]
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+1 i carry a complete patch kit and compressor in my jeep, a valve stem tool,plus a full sized spare of course


I had patched two of my previous set of tires with a $7 plug kit. It did not take long to get back on the road. Both patches were still holding 20k miles later when I replaced the tires.

I also carry the above. A full size 255/85/16 spare is a PITA.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 5:51:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Plug kits and Fix-A-Flat are essential in our vehicles.

I've fixed a flat [temporarily] on a bad traffic stretch of 101 in the Bay area once and got off the road for a few hrs until  I could replace the tire, saving our butts. Don't want to do that again.

Also the plug kits have fixed a lot of our and friends' tires and have worked great.

Don't leave home with out either and ignore what the folks 'with-out-a-clue' say. Both have their uses, it's up to you to make the decisions how to apply these tools.

Link Posted: 12/16/2010 7:08:50 PM EDT
[#18]
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snip.


.... So, has anyone ever kept on in their car in the heat for an extended amount of time?


Yes, I kept a can in my car for 3 years.   It worked fine when I needed it.  Oklahoma summers get in excess of 100 degrees on a pretty regular basis and winters below freezing.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 7:38:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I'd just like to add about that stuff - if you use it get your tire replaced or repaired ASAP.

It has a habit of eating the paint off of your wheels on the inside, making it impossible to seat the bead with a new tire unless you replace the wheel.


i used it in a 2007 colorado, and ruined a inside tire sensor, now it always says to " check tire".... screw that thing. i dont want a tire sensor, unless its a ctis system...
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:03:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:So, has anyone ever kept on in their car in the heat for an extended amount of time?


it gets freaking HOT here in Vegas. i've had cans in the trucks for many years, but in all that time i've never had to use a can after prolonged storage. never had one blow up.

i keep it as a backup and rotate them every few years. need to replace the one that's i the truck now.

but i also have a tire plug kit with a compressor (that stay in the truck) and a spare.

the fix a flat gives em the option to hand it off to someone stuck on the side of the road in a place where i don't want to hang around and work on their tire adn possibly get run over for my efforts.  if i needed it, i'd probably only use it if i was pressed for time or ot of options.

i have used it on other vehicles.

if you're going to use Slime, put it in before you have trouble. i've also heard that Ride On (i think that's the name, it's red) is "better" than Slime, won't eat the rim and works better... but i haven't tried it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2010 11:06:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Kept a can of the stuff in my pickup cab for years and years in the deserts and climes of SoCal without any trouble. It worked for someone else when it was needed.


I put slime in my wheelbarrow and bicycle tires.

Link Posted: 12/17/2010 2:43:52 AM EDT
[#22]
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Fix a flat and slime will fuck up a tire pressure sensor.  They may make a flat unrepairable too, causing you to replace your tire.  

These things should be used on wheel barrels and wagons, not autos that jet down the freeway at 80mph +.

I carry plugs and a pump.


this.........big time
you can get everything you need for way under $100.00, good plug kit,good compressor
Link Posted: 12/17/2010 3:18:20 AM EDT
[#23]
I have a can in my car. Have for many years. No leaks. I have used them to fix tires. No issues.

I also have a small compressor.

I have used slime for a wheelbarrel and a snowblower that had flats. The problem with slime is you need a source of compressed air to refill the tire afterward, making it less optimal as an emergency get home item.

There are all kinds of urban myths about these products being somehow "bad" for your tires, or your pressure sensors, or your rims. I don't know how true they are. It is hard to evaluate such stories that are anecdotal in nature to begin with and often 3rd or 4th hand. The likely truth is that if they did this kind of damage, the manufacturers would go out of business from the damage claims, so I am inclined to discount such stories.

It has never happened to me on my own car but I have tried several times to pump up other peoples flats with just the compressor. Due to the way the tire was sitting, it would not seal. However, a can of fix-a-flat did work in one case.

There is a rather odd belief among some mechanics that the tried and true puncture repair method using plugs is somehow bad as well. I suspect that is based on the plug method being readily available to consumers while the patch method requires a tire mahine that very few consumers will have available to them.

Link Posted: 12/17/2010 4:13:54 AM EDT
[#24]
i gave a little thought to buying hmmv run flat tires to my bov, so i didnt have to worry about flats too much. then i remembered a hmmv tires weighs about 200+ pounds.... pass..
Link Posted: 12/17/2010 5:07:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2010 5:58:06 AM EDT
[#26]
TJ, you have enlightened me again.
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