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Posted: 6/3/2018 8:35:05 PM EDT
Any chance we could get a separate forum for rock climbing/mountaineering/canyoneering? Some of us want to go head to head with Darwin...
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 8:49:51 PM EDT
Maybe just "climbing"?
But at any rate, I'd be in on that, even tho I'm too old & too busted up to climb anymore.
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 9:11:54 PM EDT
The outdoor forum is low volume enough where you can probably post as much climbing threads as you want without much complaint from everyone else.

On that note, I finally lead my first outdoor 5.10c today. I take a freaking 4 grade hit climbing indoors vs out...
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 9:14:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhatsGnu:
Maybe just "climbing"?
But at any rate, I'd be in on that, even tho I'm too old & too busted up to climb anymore.
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And Fred Beckey wasn't?
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 9:21:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NightHawkIX:
The outdoor forum is low volume enough where you can probably post as much climbing threads as you want without much complaint from everyone else.

On that note, I finally lead my first outdoor 5.10c today. I take a freaking 4 grade hit climbing indoors vs out...
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"5.10 off the couch" was the motto for me and my long time climbing partner.

The idea being that we just had to be solid at 5.10, rock solid, and we could get up anything in the world, albeit by aid if it was harder than 5.10. And it was mostly true. Mostly.

Ok, and I've got to ask, if you are taking a 4 grade hit outdoors, just how hard are you climbing indoors?
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 9:47:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By L_JE:
"5.10 off the couch" was the motto for me and my long time climbing partner.

The idea being that we just had to be solid at 5.10, rock solid, and we could get up anything in the world, albeit by aid if it was harder than 5.10. And it was mostly true. Mostly.

Ok, and I've got to ask, if you are taking a 4 grade hit outdoors, just how hard are you climbing indoors?
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Ok, maybe not an entirely fair comparison- I'm a fledgling 5.11b climber on top rope indoors.
5.10c lead inside with the ability to send routes. Apparently a 5.10c hangdog outdoor.

My major issue is dynamic moves outdoors- I'm happy to make large moves inside when the next hold is bright pink and labelled. But outside, when I'm not sure what the next hold is, or how good it is, I'm much more hesitant to commit to the big move; especially during lead.
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 9:49:50 PM EDT
It's usefulness would fall off quickly.
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 10:13:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM:
It's usefulness would fall off quickly.
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Oh, you.
Link Posted: 6/3/2018 10:23:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NightHawkIX:
Ok, maybe not an entirely fair comparison- I'm a fledgling 5.11b climber on top rope indoors.
5.10c lead inside with the ability to send routes. Apparently a 5.10c hangdog outdoor.

My major issue is dynamic moves outdoors- I'm happy to make large moves inside when the next hold is bright pink and labelled. But outside, when I'm not sure what the next hold is, or how good it is, I'm much more hesitant to commit to the big move; especially during lead.
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Originally Posted By L_JE:
"5.10 off the couch" was the motto for me and my long time climbing partner.

The idea being that we just had to be solid at 5.10, rock solid, and we could get up anything in the world, albeit by aid if it was harder than 5.10. And it was mostly true. Mostly.

Ok, and I've got to ask, if you are taking a 4 grade hit outdoors, just how hard are you climbing indoors?
Ok, maybe not an entirely fair comparison- I'm a fledgling 5.11b climber on top rope indoors.
5.10c lead inside with the ability to send routes. Apparently a 5.10c hangdog outdoor.

My major issue is dynamic moves outdoors- I'm happy to make large moves inside when the next hold is bright pink and labelled. But outside, when I'm not sure what the next hold is, or how good it is, I'm much more hesitant to commit to the big move; especially during lead.
Dude, 5.11b indoors is … hard.

Let me bring you over to the dark side of outdoor climbing. Finger locks, hand jams, that's where it's at. I'm talking jams so solid that if your other hand and both feet skate, you're still hanging there without falling, and rather comfortably.
Link Posted: 6/4/2018 11:57:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By L_JE:

Dude, 5.11b indoors is hard.

Let me bring you over to the dark side of outdoor climbing. Finger locks, hand jams, that's where it's at. I'm talking jams so solid that if your other hand and both feet skate, you're still hanging there without falling, and rather comfortably.
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Yep. I'm starting to really like crack climbs- nothing like a good layback to take a break. Slabs. Slabs are the devil.
Link Posted: 6/8/2018 5:04:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NightHawkIX:
Yep. I'm starting to really like crack climbs- nothing like a good layback to take a break. Slabs. Slabs are the devil.
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Satan's Slab 5.8R, Boulder, CO



http://www.13ergirl.com/SatansSlab/
Link Posted: 6/8/2018 6:09:32 PM EDT
Mixed ice climbing is the true dark side....
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Link Posted: 7/23/2018 9:03:17 PM EDT
Still climbing here but this forum request really hasn't got off the ground.
Damn.
Link Posted: 8/1/2018 11:52:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GaryM:
Still climbing here but this forum request really hasn't got off the ground.
Damn.
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I've got 100GB of climbing photos and video from last weekend. And probably another 200GB backlog before that. Still trying to finish up a video project from March. And now I've got more stuff to add to an unfinished project from January. One step forward, two steps back … but it's not a bad problem to have … it's a problem I sought out … a while back I told myself, "I should have taken more photos".

This may be some of the closest rock climbing to you. It's Sand Rock, Alabama, located just north of Gadsden. There are climbs here for people of any ability. When the weather cools a bit, consider coming up.

I'll look up the grade of the climb the camera ascends in the beginning. It's been so long, I've kind of forgotten. (Look closely, you'll see the bolts. Wish I had a climber for perspective, but it was a Friday morning, and a hot one, at that.)

Link Posted: 8/2/2018 12:11:47 AM EDT
That's some beautiful rock and footage, what drone did you use to shoot that?
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 12:19:31 AM EDT
Rockclimbing.com
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 11:34:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NightHawkIX:
That's some beautiful rock and footage, what drone did you use to shoot that?
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Hero 5 Black for the sunrise, and a DJI Mavic Air for the flybys.

The Mavic Air is sized very well for this sort of stuff. I can fit the drone, controller, extra props, and 6+1 batteries in a lightly padded case with 9"x4"x6" outer dimensions. Realistic flight times are 15-17 minutes per fully charged battery, so that's possibly 105 minutes of flight and recording. The image quality isn't as good at the Phantom 3 and 4, but those are only packable if filming is your primary purpose.

The place was empty of climbers. When the weather cools, I'm really looking forward to getting up there for some climbing and filming. The place is a labyrinth of narrow passages that are 50-60 feet deep. I'd love to be able to get some footage of someone climbing Wall of Horns or Dreamscape - these routes are back-to-back in one of these passages, and there's an eroded feature off to the side that looks like a 30ft tibia-fibula. Being able to fly through that opening, and then up and pas the climbers would be quite wild.
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