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You did not harvest the hog meat? Fail. This big boar was not going to any good to BBQ, besides, when I finalyy found him three days later the buzzards were already on him, in fact the buzzards are what led me to him. I'll probably be able to kill close to an entire pack of coytoes this coming weekend if my friends all bring their black rifles over to help me out! There are plenty more tasty sized swine where he came from for the next BBQ party! |
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I thought you called in sick to go 'hunting'? All you did was go shooting. Unless there was a really good reason for going to work and leaving your kill out there, you fail as a responsible hunter.
An old hog is good for smoking, what a waste of meat... |
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At least I get to target practice with my hand loads the rest of the week eliminating a pack of coyote vermin gnawing on the eradicated boar hog carcass whose DNA will NOT be running around my property reproducing itself in dozens and dozens of sows..... |
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Whatever At least I get to target practice with my hand loads the rest of the week eliminating a pack of coyote vermin gnawing on the eradicated boar hog carcass whose DNA will NOT be running around my property reproducing itself in dozens and dozens of sows..... Shot with one of your 70 grain barnes ??? how far did it run after the drt double lung target area hit??? |
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I shoot a lot of hogs. They are non-native vermin. Some I take home, some I leave lyin'. But I never, ever, pass up a chance to kill one.
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Josey Wales...buzzards' gotta eat, same as worms.
Hey Skypup I see the TC is back in action. How did the Go, No-Go gauge tests of the chamber headspace finally wind-up? Send an IM if you don't want to answer publicly. |
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Whatever At least I get to target practice with my hand loads the rest of the week eliminating a pack of coyote vermin gnawing on the eradicated boar hog carcass whose DNA will NOT be running around my property reproducing itself in dozens and dozens of sows..... I'd guess that somewhere around half the feral hogs I've seen killed in Texas were left where they fell. Killing these hogs isn't hunting, it's pest removal. |
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Whatever At least I get to target practice with my hand loads the rest of the week eliminating a pack of coyote vermin gnawing on the eradicated boar hog carcass whose DNA will NOT be running around my property reproducing itself in dozens and dozens of sows..... Shot with one of your 70 grain barnes ??? how far did it run after the drt double lung target area hit??? Well, I had 5 Barnes 70 grain TSX handloads in the ammo carrier on the buttstock, but I picked up a Hornady 75 grain BTHP handload on the way out the door and that is what I busted his chops with. No exit, hit through the chest right behind the shoulder, his entire thoracic cavity was filled with blood, not a drop on the ground, and he only made it 25 feet from where he was hit to the trees.... |
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I thought you called in sick to go 'hunting'? All you did was go shooting. Unless there was a really good reason for going to work and leaving your kill out there, you fail as a responsible hunter. An old hog is good for smoking, what a waste of meat... Well - the GOOD NEWS is that I will be sitting on my back porch this weekend sniping out coyotes at around 200 or so yards with my handloads! It is simply an example of mind over matter, I don't mind, Because it does not matter..... |
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Josey Wales...buzzards' gotta eat, same as worms. Hey Skypup I see the TC is back in action. How did the Go, No-Go gauge tests of the chamber headspace finally wind-up? Send an IM if you don't want to answer publicly. The headspace on the T/C was off by 0.003" so I shimmed it, works great now. |
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Looking at the pictures it doesn't look like you failed. You actually succeeded twice. Don't let these ignorant people get to you.
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You did not harvest the hog meat? Fail. I don't how it is outside of Texas but here it's killing them that counts. Eating them is just an added bonus and if it has nuts and weighs over 80 lbs. it stays in the pasture where it fell. There are plenty of sows and shoats for eatin' if that's what we want. If you think leaving one boar to rot is bad...., there is a biologist in central Texas that traps them by the bushel and most are pushed into a hole dug with a backhoe and buried. |
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I wish I could go somehwere that has that many wild hogs and shoot one or two and bring the meat back with me. I think there are some areas of PA that have problems but darn if I have ever found one. I need to make friends with someone that would let me come visit for a weekend so I can get some pork for the freezer. Only problem is, with gas so expensive it would be cheaper for me to find a local pig farmer and buy a nice young hog then drive many hundreds of miles.
Too bad that meat went to waste but a pest is gone... |
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You did not harvest the hog meat? Fail. I don't how it is outside of Texas but here it's killing them that counts. Eating them is just an added bonus and if it has nuts and weighs over 80 lbs. it stays in the pasture where it fell. There are plenty of sows and shoats for eatin' if that's what we want. If you think leaving one boar to rot is bad...., there is a biologist in central Texas that traps them by the bushel and most are pushed into a hole dug with a backhoe and buried. I think the state biologists would side with SkyPup on this one. On most all the WMAs in Florida there is neither a size nor a bag limit on hogs. Besides being able to kill hogs in FL during any deer season they can also be taken during "small game" season, and in the 2010-2011 hunting season some FL WMAs held hog only hunts after deer and small game. |
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It is open season throughout the entire year here in Florida on private land for BOTH Hogs and Coyotes, you can take them any way possible with any rifle, pistol, spear, or knife, even an AR with a 100 round magazine or a single shot, it does not matter one damn iota.
As for leaving one boar for dead, I shot 74 hogs last year, that is over one per week. And I fed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people with them. Also, a friend who was an Electrical Engineering professor at the University here was driving home from work after dark in January in his pickup truck on a two lane paved road out here and hit a large boar crosswise T-Bone going the speed limit. His F-150 pickup truck cartwheeled end over end three times, killing him and the hog. He left a wife and four young kids. The DOT had to bring out a backhoe to bury the F***ing hog it was so big. This was less than two miles from my farm. Do you think the DOT gave a damn about burying the dead hog or the dead professor? Also, our regional rare and endangered botanical garden suffered $55,000 in damage when a herd of hogs got into it about 1/2 mile down from me, looked like a bulldozer and backhoe had gone wild destroying all the plants and shrubs in the garden. This garden was a regional depository for rare and endangered botanical plants throughout the Southeast USA. I spent two weeks on the tractor smoothing out all the rooting and bringing in new topsoil and mulch trying to repair things and get them back to normal. Also, our cow-calf operation has lost 11 calves this spring to coyotes, that is over 15% of all the calves we had dropped since February. You think I F***ing care what some dimwit has to say about the poor hogs and the poor coyotes I shoot on my land???? It is simply an act of mind over matter, I don't mind, Because it does not matter.... In the meantime, I've got some more hunting to do, cya later. |
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It is open season throughout the entire year here in Florida on private land for BOTH Hogs and Coyotes, you can take them any way possible with any rifle, pistol, spear, or knife, even an AR with a 100 round magazine or a single shot, it does not matter one damn iota. As for leaving one boar for dead, I shot 74 hogs last year, that is over one per week. And I fed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people with them. Also, a friend who was an Electrical Engineering professor at the University here was driving home from work after dark in January in his pickup truck on a two lane paved road out here and hit a large boar crosswise T-Bone going the speed limit. His F-150 pickup truck cartwheeled end over end three times, killing him and the hog. He left a wife and four young kids. The DOT had to bring out a backhoe to bury the F***ing hog it was so big. This was less than two miles from my farm. Do you think the DOT gave a damn about burying the dead hog or the dead professor? Also, our regional rare and endangered botanical garden suffered $55,000 in damage when a herd of hogs got into it about 1/2 mile down from me, looked like a bulldozer and backhoe had gone wild destroying all the plants and shrubs in the garden. This garden was a regional depository for rare and endangered botanical plants throughout the Southeast USA. I spent two weeks on the tractor smoothing out all the rooting and bringing in new topsoil and mulch trying to repair things and get them back to normal. Also, our cow-calf operation has lost 11 calves this spring to coyotes, that is over 15% of all the calves we had dropped since February. You think I F***ing care what some dimwit has to say about the poor hogs and the poor coyotes I shoot on my land???? It is simply an act of mind over matter, I don't mind, Because it does not matter.... In the meantime, I've got some more hunting to do, cya later. BTW, the heavy OTM handloads are working gangbusters on these large boars. It does not matter if it is Hornady Match 75 grain BTHP, Sierra MatchKing 77 grain BTHP, Nosler Custom Competition 77 grain BTHP, or Barnes 62 or 70 grain TSX -> they are all good to go on large swine - good shot placement is what it is all about. |
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You did not harvest the hog meat? Fail. You going to bitch at him for not eating the coyote too? |
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It is open season throughout the entire year here in Florida on private land for BOTH Hogs and Coyotes, you can take them any way possible with any rifle, pistol, spear, or knife, even an AR with a 100 round magazine or a single shot, it does not matter one damn iota. As for leaving one boar for dead, I shot 74 hogs last year, that is over one per week. And I fed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people with them. Also, a friend who was an Electrical Engineering professor at the University here was driving home from work after dark in January in his pickup truck on a two lane paved road out here and hit a large boar crosswise T-Bone going the speed limit. His F-150 pickup truck cartwheeled end over end three times, killing him and the hog. He left a wife and four young kids. The DOT had to bring out a backhoe to bury the F***ing hog it was so big. This was less than two miles from my farm. Do you think the DOT gave a damn about burying the dead hog or the dead professor? Also, our regional rare and endangered botanical garden suffered $55,000 in damage when a herd of hogs got into it about 1/2 mile down from me, looked like a bulldozer and backhoe had gone wild destroying all the plants and shrubs in the garden. This garden was a regional depository for rare and endangered botanical plants throughout the Southeast USA. I spent two weeks on the tractor smoothing out all the rooting and bringing in new topsoil and mulch trying to repair things and get them back to normal. Also, our cow-calf operation has lost 11 calves this spring to coyotes, that is over 15% of all the calves we had dropped since February. You think I F***ing care what some dimwit has to say about the poor hogs and the poor coyotes I shoot on my land???? It is simply an act of mind over matter, I don't mind, Because it does not matter.... In the meantime, I've got some more hunting to do, cya later. Well said Quoted:
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You did not harvest the hog meat? Fail. You going to bitch at him for not eating the coyote too? +1 Next they'll bitch about p-dog shooting |
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Good post as usual Skypup.I always look here to read what you have been up to.If I had property like you guys do I would do the same thing to protect it.
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You think I F***ing care what some dimwit has to say about the poor hogs and the poor coyotes I shoot on my land????[/img] it's not the killing that bothers some people; it's the wasting. nobody complained that you shot the hog, just that you left it to rot. |
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You think I F***ing care what some dimwit has to say about the poor hogs and the poor coyotes I shoot on my land????[/url] it's not the killing that bothers some people; it's the wasting. nobody complained that you shot the hog, just that you left it to rot. do you eat the ants, flies, and mice you kill around your house? Just saying that for a lot of people this is pest eradication. For some of the guys that live in areas infested with hogs, it isn't feasible to eat all fo the animals they kill. This maybe easier to understand if you lived in an area that was overrun with hogs damaging your land. ymmv |
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do you eat the ants, flies, and mice you kill around your house? Just saying that for a lot of people this is pest eradication. For some of the guys that live in areas infested with hogs, it isn't feasible to eat all fo the animals they kill. This maybe easier to understand if you lived in an area that was overrun with hogs damaging your land. ymmv no, I don't, but then again the vermin you listed aren't really edible. I might feel different if pigs were damaging my land, or I might not; I never condemned what the OP had done. |
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do you eat the ants, flies, and mice you kill around your house? Just saying that for a lot of people this is pest eradication. For some of the guys that live in areas infested with hogs, it isn't feasible to eat all fo the animals they kill. This maybe easier to understand if you lived in an area that was overrun with hogs damaging your land. ymmv no, I don't, but then again the vermin you listed aren't really edible. I might feel different if pigs were damaging my land, or I might not; I never condemned what the OP had done. Unless you have taken a large boar and eaten , or more like tried to eat one. You do not have any idea what they taste like. Up to a certain age/size you would not want to waste edible meat. But once they get older they really are not fit to eat. So does anyone that has tried it like the taste of old boar? No, not really. Meant as information given in a friendly way. [8D |
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no, I don't, but then again the vermin you listed aren't really edible. I might feel different if pigs were damaging my land, or I might not; I never condemned what the OP had done. you do not watch man vs wild |
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Unless you have taken a large boar and eaten , or more like tried to eat one. You do not have any idea what they taste like. [8D I have gone pig hunting twice. I have eaten from two different wild pigs; one 225-ish boar, and a 200-ish sow. on both, the smoked and cured hams and butts were the only palatable part. I don't expect bigger pigs to taste any better. I have no idea whether food shelters or anybody else would take the pig the OP shot; I do know that I haven't gone pig hunting in years and have no real desire to do it again. the hunting and shooting was fun, but the meat is tough, dry, and has a stink to it. |
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no, I don't, but then again the vermin you listed aren't really edible. I might feel different if pigs were damaging my land, or I might not; I never condemned what the OP had done. you do not watch man vs wild was it him or survivorman that ate off that dead camel? UGH |
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Talked to our Ranch Manager today and so far we have lost 15 calves to coyotes this Spring, including one pregnant cow that was giving birth and was attacked and killed and eaten (along with the newborn calf) during the birthing process.
We will continue to shoot all the hogs and coyotes we can where ever and when ever we can. |
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The 400 pound boar hog is totally gone, the coyotes have been gorging themselves on him the last 48 hours, too bad I went to work early Monday morning.... http://www.phossil.com/thom/Game%20Cam/Coyote4.jpg See what you wasted!!! I mean damn if the buzzards and yotes ate him, you certainly could have knawed on that fine piece of reserve shoe leather |
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Yeah, I could have slow smoked him nice and easy over a pile of mesquite with a used pair of old tennis sneakers and then tossed out the 400 pounds of tough inedible pork to the 'yotes and ate the delicious chewy sneakers....
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Yeah, I could have slow smoked him nice and easy over a pile of mesquite with a used pair of old tennis sneakers and then tossed out the 400 pounds of tough inedible pork to the 'yotes and ate the delicious chewy sneakers.... I find it amazing that a 400 lb carcass can be gone in less than 3 weeks. Reading your post and remembering a Monster Quest episode where they did time lapse photography on a deer carcass being consumed primarily by maggots really impresses me how fast nature can work. |
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Looked like the first Yote ya shot had pups ,,,, so you might have done better than you thought.
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Looked like the first Yote ya shot had pups ,,,, so you might have done better than you thought. Exactly, the game cam yesterday showed two adult good looking coyotes at 7:30 AM sniffing around, will soon shoot them too! |
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Yeah, I could have slow smoked him nice and easy over a pile of mesquite with a used pair of old tennis sneakers and then tossed out the 400 pounds of tough inedible pork to the 'yotes and ate the delicious chewy sneakers.... I find it amazing that a 400 lb carcass can be gone in less than 3 weeks. Reading your post and remembering a Monster Quest episode where they did time lapse photography on a deer carcass being consumed primarily by maggots really impresses me how fast nature can work. This boar carcass was GONE without a trace in 7 days.... |
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The food chain is incredibly efficient! I shot a decent size hog on the 23rd. He went down hard and thrashed a bit as usual. I would've dragged the carcass away from the sendero, but by the time I climbed down and got there, he had managed to remove himself from the area by a few dozen yards. By the 30th, he was totally disassembled and assimilated. The other pigs didn't seem offended. The group came back within 8 hours and maintained their usual routine for the week.
I'm a bit surprised at the birkenstock quotient in this thread. Great shoots, SkyPup. Keep up the good work. |
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Quoted: I'm a bit surprised at the birkenstock quotient in this thread. Great shoots, SkyPup. Keep up the good work. Thank you for making the point above. Skypup is the man. Wild Feral Hogs = Giant Rats! I have always been a proponent of using dead animals (racoons, possums or hogs) to bring in more hogs /giant rats to eradicate. It is not a waste of animals... it is a good use for useless dead animals.
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I'd leave their carcases there too..keep bringin them in! Like baiting only legal.
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Looked like the first Yote ya shot had pups ,,,, so you might have done better than you thought. Exactly, the game cam yesterday showed two adult good looking coyotes at 7:30 AM sniffing around, will soon shoot them too! |
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I've never worn Birkenstocks and I wouldn't exactly call myself a tree-hugger (although I do like to give them a friendly pat from time to time), but I do love nature and I love spending time out in the field. That being said, there is nothing (except for people) worse for the health of our wildlands than an out of control hog population. They tear up native vegetation and contribute to erosion...if you've never seen what the ground looks like after a big group of hogs passes through, it's a bit like someone made a pass with a huge disc tiller...they carry and spread diseases, and they will eat almost anything (bird/reptile eggs, snakes, lizards, etc.). In short, they are an environmental disaster. Add to that the damage they do to agricultural production and you've got yourself a genuine bona-fide pest species on your hands. I agree in general with good hunting ethics and I hate to see an animal killed for no reason, but in this case it isn't for "no reason."
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I've never worn Birkenstocks and I wouldn't exactly call myself a tree-hugger (although I do like to give them a friendly pat from time to time), but I do love nature and I love spending time out in the field. That being said, there is nothing (except for people) worse for the health of our wildlands than an out of control hog population. They tear up native vegetation and contribute to erosion...if you've never seen what the ground looks like after a big group of hogs passes through, it's a bit like someone made a pass with a huge disc tiller...they carry and spread diseases, and they will eat almost anything (bird/reptile eggs, snakes, lizards, etc.). In short, they are an environmental disaster. Add to that the damage they do to agricultural production and you've got yourself a genuine bona-fide pest species on your hands. I agree in general with good hunting ethics and I hate to see an animal killed for no reason, but in this case it isn't for "no reason." Nice shooting Skypup, glad to see you are such an ardent environmentalist Very well said, and indeed I am an ardent environmentalist, otherwise I would not have put a perpetual easement on our 950 acres for protection of the rare and endangered animals and plants all over the property. As part of the conservation easement, we SHOOT ALL WILD HOGS AND COYOTES. |
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