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Posted: 10/3/2011 8:12:36 AM EST
Mach, I have taken a moment to crop your original post. I think your idea here was noble, but in adding your political views, you will receive the views of others. And then yes, I derailed your thread, and for that I apologize. I think this should be tried again with all political discretion aside. There is a lot of useful information out there on this subject and I feel the site patrons would benefit from given the opportunity to share with each other. So without further ado, from Mach's topic It has begun:


This is no joke.

Large protests are happening across the country in the major cities.

If you must frequent cities or live or work in one here are my suggestions for safety and security:

Don't dress well. Dress average. If you must wear a suit to work, bring it with you and change to business cloths when you get there.
Always carry a throw wallet with some money and some expired cards in it.
If you have an expensive vehicle, get a work car that is reliable but doesn't show wealth.
Always leave a way out when approaching stopped traffic or a stop light. Don't let yourself be boxed in.
Vary how you leave your house and the route you drive to work
Be armed at all times it is illegal
Carry a Get Home Bag in your vehicle and your place of work.
Don't wear expensive jewelry
Bring concealable body armor to the city, at least have it with you so if the violence starts, you can put it on to get home.
Keep some mags loaded for your rifle.
If you live in the city, identify a BOL and have BOB packed ready to leave.
Don't answer the door if you don't know who it is, brief your family members
Lock your house and vehicles




I may be jumping the gun on this, but I don't think so. Look at the sequence of events. It is an executed plan.

The protests will grow and a spark will ignite the violence.

Please add whatever I left out. or tell me why I am wrong.

Discuss


Note: Mach I tried to IM you for permission, but you blocked my a$$ haha. For the record, ignoring a problem won't always fix it haha
Mods lock this one if Mach would like also, Im just trying to right what was wronged.

Link Posted: 10/3/2011 8:29:51 AM EST
Sorry, I probably helped derail it too accidentally.

Original topic was good one and I'm glad it's restarted.
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 8:37:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Mach, I have taken a moment to crop your original post. I think your idea here was noble, but in adding your political views, you will receive the views of others. And then yes, I derailed your thread, and for that I apologize. I think this should be tried again with all political discretion aside. There is a lot of useful information out there on this subject and I feel the site patrons would benefit from given the opportunity to share with each other. So without further ado, from Mach's topic It has begun:


This is no joke.

Large protests are happening across the country in the major cities.

If you must frequent cities or live or work in one here are my suggestions for safety and security:

Don't dress well. Dress average. If you must wear a suit to work, bring it with you and change to business cloths when you get there.
Always carry a throw wallet with some money and some expired cards in it.
If you have an expensive vehicle, get a work car that is reliable but doesn't show wealth.
Always leave a way out when approaching stopped traffic or a stop light. Don't let yourself be boxed in.
Vary how you leave your house and the route you drive to work
Be armed at all times it is illegal
Carry a Get Home Bag in your vehicle and your place of work.
Don't wear expensive jewelry
Bring concealable body armor to the city, at least have it with you so if the violence starts, you can put it on to get home.
Keep some mags loaded for your rifle.
If you live in the city, identify a BOL and have BOB packed ready to leave.
Don't answer the door if you don't know who it is, brief your family members
Lock your house and vehicles




I may be jumping the gun on this, but I don't think so. Look at the sequence of events. It is an executed plan.

The protests will grow and a spark will ignite the violence.

Please add whatever I left out. or tell me why I am wrong.

Discuss


Note: Mach I tried to IM you for permission, but you blocked my a$$ haha. For the record, ignoring a problem won't always fix it haha
Mods lock this one if Mach would like also, Im just trying to right what was wronged.





You are a communist plain and simple.

Join Michael Moore and the rest of the freedom hating ilk in this country. You are ENVIOUS of those who make more than you.

This is a pretty conservative site so I recommend you should probably move elsewhere since your socialistic ideals just won't fly around here...thankfully.

And to those who tried to point out the folly of this poster's ways, good comments in that other thread.

Envy never ends well.
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 8:54:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2011 9:03:28 AM EST by wshbrngr]
This thread is not going to end well either.......

But, I think the original thread was just pointing out the obvious.
Not political, as I think politicians on both sides share the blame.

These things are starting to happen here, just as they are in Europe.
This is one of the reasons I prep.

I consider it highly likely that protests/rioting will occur and may disrupt the distribution system. (trucking)
Much more likely than an asteroid or hordes of zombies.

ETA: If you are angry about who pays how much,
your anger should be directed at the politicians who write the tax code, not at the people paying their taxes.
There is no 4% tax rate.
These are the brackets.
The only way to change your bracket is through deductions to lower your taxable income.
Deductions are passed given by the politicians.
You really have to look at ALL the items being deducted from your paycheck, not just the income tax withholding......
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 8:56:32 AM EST
You cropped it for him, huh?

Mach's original post, uncropped:

This is no joke.

Large protests are happening across the country in the major cities organized through social networking sites, just like in the arab countries of the middle east.

They have many different groups calling for many different things, but the bulk of them are against major corporations under the guise of greed and demanding more socialism and free stuff from the government. They want foreclosures to stop, lower health care costs, jobs given to them, their college expenses paid, and they want the rich to pay for it. While these demonstrations are generally peaceful right now, there is great potential for that to change and it could change over night. This is how the arab spring started.

This is different than the protests of the 60's. The 60's protesters called for love and the end of the war, and mostly just got stoned. These people are demanding the govt give them stuff and are calling openly for the death and beheading of rich people and corporate executives. This is the class warfare that Obama has been calling for. There is no coincidence that he just recently commanded " put your marching boots on" to his supporters. This is being instigated by his rhetoric and fueled by his support.

This is only the beginning. These are the useful idiots that are being told they deserve other people's. When these protests have been well established, the violence will start with a spark and grow from there. IMO there is a coordinated effort from politicians calling for suspension of elections to the POTUS telling his supporters to 'put their marching boots on". This IMO could be it. This could be the beginning of extended social unrest and upheaval in the USA. It is no coincidence this is starting in the last year of Obama's term as POTUS.

Look at what has been and is happening.


The POTUS openly demonizing wealthy people.
The POTUS openly blaming the banks and corporations and wealthy people for the problems that were created by govt policies while at the same time transferring massive amounts of money to these very same people and companies
the federal govt passing bills that have not been read
Operating the fed govt with no budget passed.
the fed govt on a massive push to find everyone that qualifies for govt social programs and put them on those programs
The fed govt defunding social security by reducing the SS payroll tax, thereby bankrupting the fund quicker
The fed govt illegally transferring thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels and criminals in US cities to produce the stats to justify increased gun control.
The fed reserve diluting the dollar causing prices to increase
The POTUS restricting new oil production in the US
The fed govt passing a bill that requires individuals to purchase a private contract, opening the way for absolutely no limits on what the govt can require people to do


The Cloward–Piven strategy is being executed to collapse the system and the POTUS is encouraging people to take to the streets to protest.

IMHO we are in the final stages of execution of the plan to bring about the change as Zero promised during the campaign. It is just a matter of time before the violence starts and becomes widespread.

If you must frequent cities or live or work in one here are my suggestions for safety and security:

Don't dress well. Dress average. If you must wear a suit to work, bring it with you and change to business cloths when you get there.
Always carry a throw wallet with some money and some expired cards in it.
If you have an expensive vehicle, get a work car that is reliable but doesn't show wealth.
Always leave a way out when approaching stopped traffic or a stop light. Don't let yourself be boxed in.
Vary how you leave your house and the route you drive to work
Be armed at all times it is illegal
Carry a Get Home Bag in your vehicle and your place of work.
Don't wear expensive jewelry
Bring concealable body armor to the city, at least have it with you so if the violence starts, you can put it on to get home.
Keep some mags loaded for your rifle.
If you live in the city, identify a BOL and have BOB packed ready to leave.
Don't answer the door if you don't know who it is, brief your family members
Lock your house and vehicles




I may be jumping the gun on this, but I don't think so. Look at the sequence of events. It is an executed plan.

The protests will grow and a spark will ignite the violence.

Please add whatever I left out. or tell me why I am wrong.

Discuss
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 9:22:05 AM EST
I just read the "Occupy Cincinnati" site. Most are smelly, college age hippy wannabees, but i do detect a strong commie tone to the non-college student types. basically if you work for a living, support your family and want to have some nice things you are a rich evil corp type. those are the anarchists that I'm concerned about and need to prep for accordingly. Also a few references to getting unions involved, etc.

The truly concerning post was from someone who wants to hold their protest not in downtown Cincinnati, but out in the suburbs, esp the very affluent "rich" area and their country club. We don't live in that area, but are a few miles away and have a nice home. This is my worst case scenario: the protests moving to the burbs to really make it personal. This is a threat to me and my family. My guess is the suburban PD's won't tolerate much but could be overwhelmed until help arrives. Therefore, be prepared.
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 9:23:09 AM EST
Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Mach, I have taken a moment to crop your original post. I think your idea here was noble, but in adding your political views, you will receive the views of others. And then yes, I derailed your thread, and for that I apologize. I think this should be tried again with all political discretion aside.

snip


Note: Mach I tried to IM you for permission, but you blocked my a$$ haha. For the record, ignoring a problem won't always fix it haha
Mods lock this one if Mach would like also, Im just trying to right what was wronged.



There was no political views in my post. Everything I posted about the protests and protesters came directly from their own mouths from the news

Everything I posted about the POTUS came directly from him.

Nowhere did I mention a political party.

I just listed a sequence of events.


Cut and paste my post however you like, my full post was graciously quoted above.

and no I will not be joining this discussion.

We really have nothing to discuss. Nor do I care what your opinions are because of your socialist / communist views..

I know what I see happening,

and for the record, I am not ignoring the problem, I am ignoring you,

Link Posted: 10/3/2011 9:28:48 AM EST
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By zegermanznew:
Mach, I have taken a moment to crop your original post. I think your idea here was noble, but in adding your political views, you will receive the views of others. And then yes, I derailed your thread, and for that I apologize. I think this should be tried again with all political discretion aside.

snip


Note: Mach I tried to IM you for permission, but you blocked my a$$ haha. For the record, ignoring a problem won't always fix it haha
Mods lock this one if Mach would like also, Im just trying to right what was wronged.



There was no political views in my post. Everything I posted about the protests and protesters came directly from their own mouths from the news

Everything I posted about the POTUS came directly from him.

Nowhere did I mention a political party.

I just listed a sequence of events.


Cut and paste my post however you like, my full post was graciously quoted above.

and no I will not be joining this discussion.

We really have nothing to discuss. Nor do I care what your opinions are because of your socialist / communist views..

I know what I see happening,

and for the record, I am not ignoring the problem, I am ignoring you,



Mach, I"m with you. I posted in an attempt to get some value from this thread and your original, but its been hijacked by the political commie BS. Lets create a thread related to the situation at hand. I think this is a potential powder keg .

Link Posted: 10/3/2011 9:39:44 AM EST
IBTL.

I also agree with Mach.

Go to DU.
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 9:43:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2011 9:43:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2011 9:43:51 AM EST by Feral]
See my post
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