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Posted: 4/4/2016 10:22:49 AM EDT
Today I decided to test out my new camp stove and a $12 non-stick pan I bought at the Coleman outlet over the weekend.  Stove started right up and I put the pan on to pre-heat while I scrambled my eggs.  While whipping the eggs, I noticed a sheen on the top of the pan that looked off, so I turned it over and saw this...



I was truly surprised because I thought the stove wouldn't be hot enough, so I bought a thinner camp pan.  But here it was so hot it melted the damn thing.  That was on medium heat.  I'd hate to see what high would do.  

I've never used a gas stove before, and always relied on fire.  So, what did I do wrong?  Buy the wrong pan?  I figured since it was Coleman it would hold up.  Did I put the heat too high?  Help me out here guys with any common pitfalls with gas camp stoves that I should be aware of.  Thanks.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 10:40:54 AM EDT
I use cast iron on mine.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 11:07:22 AM EDT
It seems to me that coating the bottom of the pan with non-stick coating is a design flaw.  As far as I understand, the fumes from a burn-off like that can be toxic.



What does the inside of the pan look like?  You might be able to burn the rest off the bottom and still use the pan.




In general, I like to get all my stuff ready to go before starting the heat on anything except an actual household oven or a cast iron pan.  Prevents issues from being created due to distraction.




Gas stoves do operate very differently.  They don't "come up to temp" they are AT temp all the time and only the area of that temp changes. You really shouldn't and don't need to "pre-heat" anything with a gas stove. Stop it.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 11:16:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
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We have some, but my original thinking was that it would be too thick, that the gas stove wouldn't be powerful enough to heat it up.  Boy was I wrong.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 11:21:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RR_Broccoli:
It seems to me that coating the bottom of the pan with non-stick coating is a design flaw.  As far as I understand, the fumes from a burn-off like that can be toxic.

What does the inside of the pan look like?  You might be able to burn the rest off the bottom and still use the pan.


In general, I like to get all my stuff ready to go before starting the heat on anything except an actual household oven or a cast iron pan.  Prevents issues from being created due to distraction.


Gas stoves do operate very differently.  They don't "come up to temp" they are AT temp all the time and only the area of that temp changes. You really shouldn't and don't need to "pre-heat" anything with a gas stove. Stop it.
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The inside is discolored, and I have a feeling if it were on for any longer it would look like the bottom.  Went to Amazon to see the reviews and almost all of them have the same problem.  I can't believe Coleman is selling this thing.  I'm just glad I didn't put any food on it.  If I tried to use it again, it would just be a matter of time before I got Teflon in my food.  

That's a $12 mistake I won't make again.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 11:21:58 AM EDT
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Was the dial on "medium", or where you looking at the flame?

On my buddy's Coleman dual burner propane stove, all of the heat control is in the first 5° of dial rotation -- anything past that is is just full-flame.  Makes cooking bacon interesting.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 11:44:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WhyTanFox:
Was the dial on "medium", or where you looking at the flame?

On my buddy's Coleman dual burner propane stove, all of the heat control is in the first 5° of dial rotation -- anything past that is is just full-flame.  Makes cooking bacon interesting.
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Didn't pay attention at first, but started looking at the flame afterwards.  The controls seemed close to what you describe.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 12:20:28 PM EDT


Wow, that sucks. thanks for the heads up.





I've been using a GSI Pinnacle Camper cook set with our CampChef Everest camp stove. each burner is 20K BTU and the pot/pan has been holding up so far.





 
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 1:20:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KaProw:
Wow, that sucks. thanks for the heads up.


I've been using a GSI Pinnacle Camper cook set with our CampChef Everest camp stove. each burner is 20K BTU and the pot/pan has been holding up so far.


 
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No prob.  Who would've thought there would be a learning curve to gas camp stoves.  lol.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 1:32:14 PM EDT
Actually you shouldn't preheat nonstick very long at all.  Like less than a minute.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 1:54:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Durka-Durka:


We have some, but my original thinking was that it would be too thick, that the gas stove wouldn't be powerful enough to heat it up.  Boy was I wrong.
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Originally Posted By Durka-Durka:
Originally Posted By wildearp:
I use cast iron on mine.


We have some, but my original thinking was that it would be too thick, that the gas stove wouldn't be powerful enough to heat it up.  Boy was I wrong.



It makes the heat more even.  Older cast iron is thinner than the new Lodge crap.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 6:57:52 PM EDT
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$12 non-stick pan...  There is your problem..

Use cast iron like others have said...
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 10:21:44 PM EDT
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We have some, but my original thinking was that it would be too thick, that the gas stove wouldn't be powerful enough to heat it up.  Boy was I wrong.
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
I use cast iron on mine.


We have some, but my original thinking was that it would be too thick, that the gas stove wouldn't be powerful enough to heat it up.  Boy was I wrong.

I use a small cast iron pot on a Coleman camping stove to melt lead to cast bullets. Yes they can put out the best!
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 1:55:04 AM EDT
I've never seen that particualr pan so I'm not sure but in every other one I've ever seen the non-stick coating lined the inside of the pan only.  That looks like some sort of paint.  Either way the inside probably got too hot and the pan is now toast.  Teflon or similar polytetrafluoroethylene should not be used over high heats (>500 degrees F) and camp stoves tend to concentrate heat in a smaller area which increases the problem.  You won't usually overheat one when there's oil or food in it as you'll reach the smoke pont of the fats or oils first and notice it getting too hot.  

Pretty good article here.
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Link Posted: 4/5/2016 9:27:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
Actually you shouldn't preheat nonstick very long at all.  Like less than a minute.
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Yes! I say that is why the pan blistered!
I for one would take it back. get your money back or a new pan!
Second if your car camping, use the cast iron skillet!!!
Third practice with that stove at home. So you know what it is capable of!
Good luck with your next try!


PITA45
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 11:43:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CoyoteGray:
$12 non-stick pan...  There is your problem..

Use cast iron like others have said...
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Most of my experience is with stainless steel.  It's fairly thin, and you have to watch the heat closely because heat transfers through it quickly.  I should re-purpose one of the old cast iron pans I inherited for camping, though.  I like how the crust turns out when I use a cast iron pan to make pizzas in the grill.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 7:18:59 PM EDT
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Yes! I say that is why the pan blistered!
I for one would take it back. get your money back or a new pan!
Second if your car camping, use the cast iron skillet!!!
Third practice with that stove at home. So you know what it is capable of!
Good luck with your next try!


PITA45
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Originally Posted By R2point0:
Actually you shouldn't preheat nonstick very long at all.  Like less than a minute.


Yes! I say that is why the pan blistered!
I for one would take it back. get your money back or a new pan!
Second if your car camping, use the cast iron skillet!!!
Third practice with that stove at home. So you know what it is capable of!
Good luck with your next try!


PITA45


This is my understanding. Due to the thinner metals and coatings, camping pots and pans are not to be heated "dry". My GSI set has disclaimer to not "boil dry". I'm guessing it's the same for Coleman.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 10:54:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Firespecialist:


This is my understanding. Due to the thinner metals and coatings, camping pots and pans are not to be heated "dry". My GSI set has disclaimer to not "boil dry". I'm guessing it's the same for Coleman.
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Originally Posted By pita45:
Originally Posted By R2point0:
Actually you shouldn't preheat nonstick very long at all.  Like less than a minute.


Yes! I say that is why the pan blistered!
I for one would take it back. get your money back or a new pan!
Second if your car camping, use the cast iron skillet!!!
Third practice with that stove at home. So you know what it is capable of!
Good luck with your next try!


PITA45


This is my understanding. Due to the thinner metals and coatings, camping pots and pans are not to be heated "dry". My GSI set has disclaimer to not "boil dry". I'm guessing it's the same for Coleman.


It would've helped if there had been a disclaimer on the tag that came with it, and yes I did look at it.  I see it as a $12 lesson learned.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 11:18:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wildearp:
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Ditto that.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 11:41:01 PM EDT
After collecting and using cast iron, I won't use Teflon coatings anymore..... Scratches too easy
Link Posted: 4/8/2016 10:28:03 PM EDT
I have the same ones, never heated them beyond low and don't have this issue.  The coating is pretty poorly adhered, the first time I used them the bottoms were scratched beyond belief.
Link Posted: 4/16/2016 10:51:49 AM EDT
I tried one of those a few years back.  Absolute crap.  Can't believe they still sell the damn thing.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 5:07:11 PM EDT
I have cast iron and it works well, but is heavy. I have been looking at carbon steel skillets. Lodge has a line of seasoned carbon steel cookware that I'd like to try. They season and cook like cast iron but are a little thinner and lighter. Google "carbon steel skillet" or "steel camping skillet", there are a lot of options.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 10:49:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By oarlock:
I tried one of those a few years back.  Absolute crap.  Can't believe they still sell the damn thing.
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As said above, the Coleman pans are garbage. I bought 2 for camping and the non-stick coating is aptly named. If you look at it wrong it starts peeling. I bought 2 more with the intention of treating them with kid gloves. The coating started peeling on the second set as well. Tossed all 4 in the garbage can.

I went with GSI frying pans with the folding / detachable handles and they are AWESOME! No stick and the coating is holding up just fine.

Like said, I can't believe Coleman still markets this junk. That peeling coating can't be good for you & your food.
Link Posted: 4/21/2016 11:55:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LuckyC:
I have cast iron and it works well, but is heavy. I have been looking at carbon steel skillets. Lodge has a line of seasoned carbon steel cookware that I'd like to try. They season and cook like cast iron but are a little thinner and lighter. Google "carbon steel skillet" or "steel camping skillet", there are a lot of options.
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Found some at Ben's Backwoods.

Lodge Seasoned Carbon Steel
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