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Posted: 7/8/2010 11:31:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 11:36:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Nice.
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 2:40:09 PM EDT
[#2]
For sure, burn the loose  threads down. I tap the ends of the nylon threads with my finger while theyre still burning to ball the ends of the thread.
Link Posted: 7/8/2010 3:07:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/10/2010 8:38:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Good post !!.....

I've always done this.   Im just a civy, and buy the cheaper brands.....condor, voodoo, utg..well not so much utg?, and 511, which is better. I Always check thoroughly, melt the ends, and an occasional extra stitch here and there.

Never had any probs with the suff, and I am pretty rough with it.  I figure the cheaper prices are because they have little quality control, that where I come in
Link Posted: 7/10/2010 9:19:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/12/2010 6:24:19 AM EDT
[#6]
As a small custom gear maker I would like to address a couple of things.



1. As far as thread goes: Proper stitching is performed by back stitching your stitch. 1 inch of back stitching is standard and will provide an excellent stitch that should outlive the user. If the gear maker is doing their job of QC their should be no loose threads.



2. As far as sealing the ends of fabric: It is true that ends do fray; however, properly taped seams and this step should not be necessary. There are no reasons for the ends to fray other than abrasion. Seam tape over these areas should protect this from happening and provide even more support for the seam. My advice is to not pop stitches and remove seam tape to do this step.



More than likely with custom made gear and smaller production houses you will not find the edges of the fabric melted. Fabric is cut in layers with an auto knife in this method of production. Larger companies with 150k machines may cut fabric with an auto hot knife and give the end user the perception that this was done this way to promote integrity of the fabric, of which IMO does provide some added benefit at least from a psychological perspective. But again if your seams are properly taped there is no danger in a failed piece because of this IMO. Additionally worth noting, real Dupont Cordura is laminated on the obverse side with a rubbery type of substance that aids in its integrity and the prevention of frayed ends and water resistance ability.



3: As far as less expensive import and some custom manufacturers go: They use materials other than Dupont Cordura. They are not the same. Import nylon although looks the same does not perform the same. Usually the pricing of this fabric is a few dollars less per yard. Real Cordura fabric will not tear when there is a small cut or rip in it. Fake or import nylon will. Under load with inertia you may lose the entire contents of your pack. Buyer and user beware!



If your gear is manufactured overseas the material is sourced overseas due to shipping of materials being more cost effective. Keep this in mind. Im assuming groups like Eagle who have moved their manufacturing to the Caribbean basin may be the exception but I cant say for sure as I haven't yet had the opportunity to inspect any of their gear manufactured from that source. Simply put, If its not Cordura and you are depending on this piece of gear for other than casual civilian use avoid it at all costs.



These are just my observations as a small custom gear maker and are not intended in any way to take away from or promote debate with the OP. Just wanted to give some of my observations as I have direct day to day experience with the subject material.
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 10:44:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2010 11:54:47 AM EDT
[#8]
This is a good write up. This is one thing that was repeated over and over again every time I/we were issued new equipment in the military. I taught all my young troops to do the same.

I would even schedule periodic equipment "maintenance parties" where I'd have my troop haul in all of their equipment and a lighter (part of their mandatory equipment list), and go through each one, one at a time, as a group, and burn/tie down all loose threads. Especially their poncho liners, as the stitching for the quilting tends to un-weave more than any other piece of equipment we had.

Prib
Link Posted: 7/19/2010 2:10:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2010 5:06:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This is a good write up. This is one thing that was repeated over and over again every time I/we were issued new equipment in the military. I taught all my young troops to do the same.

I would even schedule periodic equipment "maintenance parties" where I'd have my troop haul in all of their equipment and a lighter (part of their mandatory equipment list), and go through each one, one at a time, as a group, and burn/tie down all loose threads. Especially their poncho liners, as the stitching for the quilting tends to un-weave more than any other piece of equipment we had.

Prib


You're the first mil-person who has said that they took an active interest in doing this,  I wonder if your troops, even if the reasons were explained to them, didn't consider this some sort of chicken sh(t make work.

We both know it isn't, not to mention that their gear looks just a little bit
better on inspection...



I'm sure some of them did.  I would point out to them other platoons/companies that their troops equipment was not maintained. I think they understood - but still thought it was a waste of time.  

If the troops aren't bitching there is something wrong.
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