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Posted: 12/2/2010 8:07:26 AM EST
ARLINGTON - With as many as 2 million feral hogs causing millions of dollars in urban and rural property damage across the Lone Star State each year, the Texas Department of Agriculture (TDA) challenged all 254 Texas counties to step up efforts to curb the ongoing problem and decrease the state's feral hog population.
http://www.agr.state.tx.us/agr/media/media_render/0,1460,1848_17053_40786_0,00.html |
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sounds like you folks in texas need to stop talking about your guns and start shooting them
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Hey I just talked to a dude in Canada yesrerday about hogs. Your big white hogs came into mind...thinking you should send a few pairs up there.
Polar boars.... Dehog. |
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we havent seen a hog all year for at least 20 mi from ranchers I know.
less they're harvesting them and saying they aren't 90mi NE of DFW maybe the hogs are running North to escape the Cartel violence in Mexico or, seeking out the jobs American Hogs, wont do |
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they need to do more of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHmYsyVniE |
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The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access.
Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. |
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The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access. Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. Guys like you crack me up . Do you think land in Texas is cheap ? |
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Let me ask you a question itsARanchrifle: Do you pay to hunt?
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The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access. Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. The REAL issue is tier 87 assclowns who come onto the land shoot up everything, litter, are unsafe, etc. I have seen both sides of the issue and I undersrtand why land owners are forced to charge people to hunt. Do some overcharge? Yes. But I have also seen how little respect hunters have for the land they hunt and the property owners as well. There is no "free lunch" for either party. |
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Let me ask you a question itsARanchrifle: Do you pay to hunt? Nope , I charge people. |
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I agree that some hunters are slobs that fuck things up.
Just as a hell of a lot of land owners and lease operators see hunters as walking banks. We ain't all rich. What needs to happen is A&M(or some research place) should develop birth control for hogs. Maybe put it in food and air drop it all over the place. |
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I agree that some hunters are slobs that fuck things up. Just as a hell of a lot of land owners and lease operators see hunters as walking banks. We ain't all rich. What needs to happen is A&M(or some research place) should develop birth control for hogs. Maybe put it in food and air drop it all over the place. You may as well pay to hunt if that is your solution. Your taxes would pay for the air drops. How old are you ? |
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I agree that some hunters are slobs that fuck things up. Just as a hell of a lot of land owners and lease operators see hunters as walking banks. We ain't all rich. What needs to happen is A&M(or some research place) should develop birth control for hogs. Maybe put it in food and air drop it all over the place. You may as well pay to hunt if that is your solution. Your taxes would pay for the air drops. How old are you ? That would go over real well on a cattle ranch |
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I agree that some hunters are slobs that fuck things up. Just as a hell of a lot of land owners and lease operators see hunters as walking banks. We ain't all rich. What needs to happen is A&M(or some research place) should develop birth control for hogs. Maybe put it in food and air drop it all over the place. You may as well pay to hunt if that is your solution. Your taxes would pay for the air drops. How old are you ? That would go over real well on a cattle ranch Yep . |
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It was just an idea so shoot me. And yeah I wouldn't mind my taxes being used for something like that.
What do you suggest to solve the hog problem? |
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Got a buddy who has 80 acres down south west, says in one afternoon he counted over 100 hogs screwing around on it. Called me and asked if a few of us want to come down and kill as many of those bastards as we could, and he only wanted two for his own food.
Only problem is he lives about 7 hours from DFW, or I'd be there all the time. Up here, you can read on CL how much some want to hunt the land, some are reasonable, but when you get some yahoo who wants his land cleared, but is asking $800.00 per weekend, he's going to keep having that hog problem. If you are charging crap like that, it's no wonder there are so many hogs. |
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It was just an idea so shoot me. And yeah I wouldn't mind my taxes being used for something like that. What do you suggest to solve the hog problem? I'm doing my part. Hogs are fun to shoot. If you look around you can find reasonable day hunts. I'm thinking of hosting a few. I'm not singling you out, but there's always posts about hunting hogs for free. No one ever posts they'll trade fixing fence or clearing brush to come help out. Think of it from the land owners side. Would you trust just anyone to come out with a gun and be shooting on your place ? Will they shoot an outbuilding , a goat , or cow ? |
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It was just an idea so shoot me. And yeah I wouldn't mind my taxes being used for something like that. What do you suggest to solve the hog problem? I'm doing my part. Hogs are fun to shoot. If you look around you can find reasonable day hunts. I'm thinking of hosting a few. I'm not singling you out, but there's always posts about hunting hogs for free. No one ever posts they'll trade fixing fence or clearing brush to come help out. Think of it from the land owners side. Would you trust just anyone to come out with a gun and be shooting on your place ? Will they shoot an outbuilding , a goat , or cow ? Don't forget about that spare car you two you have sitting out there. |
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I love it when people complain about paying a land owner money worth his while to go armed onto his property and shoot animals.
Hogs in most of the State are hard to find, you have to either be there everyday to know where they are or bait them (which also takes time to deliver results) Weekend hunting just does not deliver the kills. Me and my friends roll heavy just in case we get the very real opportunity to kill 20-30 at one time. Catch a sounder against a fence line and it is like a shooting gallery. After that it will be months without seeing one. |
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The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access. Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. i'm with you dude. i've been in TX 4, almost 5 years and i've been hunting once. there's not enough public land to hunt on and most land owners want way too much. not to mention hunting leases cost quite a bit too; especially if they're game rich. now, i understand from a land owners perspective they're just trying to make a little bit to help recoup the cost of damage done by hogs, but i'm in no position to pay more than a few dollars. if i could find a land owner within a few hours drive of san antonio, i'd be more than happy to help fix fences, dig ditches, or whatever in return. thing is, living in the city doesn't get you a lot of exposure to rural land owners. |
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I hunt all over the state... year round. I get invited to hunt, help fix fence and gain trust of land owners, and am wanting to buy my own land. My deer lease is in east Texas and it has hogs and only cost me $500 for year round hunting. Look for paper company land and hunt in the piney woods. The problem comes in the fact that 10 or 12 people can come though and hunt and nothing go wrong then one asshole comes by and messes something up. That is the only hunt that the rancher thinks about when people ask. I have had friends who have fences torn up, ruts put in crop fields after they were planted and had one friend have 2 cows shot because all the hunters saw in the scope and spotlight were "eyes that looked like a pig was behind them".
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I can assure you I'm doing my part...
You guys that want to hunt on properties need to meet ranchers or meet people who work on them.... I work my ass off on a friend of mines ranch: filling feeders, fixing fences, dozer work, tractor work, or whatever needs to be. I've sort of become the ranch manager over a few years. I can't stress this enough but TREAT THEIR PROPERTY as it was your own. You will get a lot of respect from the land owner, and in doing so get many freedoms on the property. |
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ItsARanchrifle is starting to to scare me... He is getting the 1000 yard stare.
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ItsARanchrifle is starting to to scare me... He is getting the 1000 yard stare. Thats actually me Been doing a lot of killin here lately. |
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Doing my part. Almost 200 kills now in 2 years.
On the land thing. Hunting hogs takes bait and time, only a virgin piece of land will yield hogs just wondering around. Even on this virgin land you will only get a few hunts at them before they become paranoid and they will dissapear. Then it will be all about feeders, feeders and more feeders. We are covered in hogs, but without feeders we wouldn't see shit. I saw hog tracks all my life growing up, but RARELY if ever saw one. Corn is the only efficient way. |
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ItsARanchrifle is starting to to scare me... He is getting the 1000 yard stare. Thats actually me Been doing a lot of killin here lately. Ah so... steely eyed killer! |
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Hog hunting is just different, when there is no livestock...open-safe shooting lanes, shooting a full mag is the norm.
As far as a true hog count, there is no telling....I count the only thing that is easy to count...the bullets. Dehog. |
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It was just an idea so shoot me. And yeah I wouldn't mind my taxes being used for something like that. What do you suggest to solve the hog problem? I'm doing my part. Hogs are fun to shoot. If you look around you can find reasonable day hunts. I'm thinking of hosting a few. I'm not singling you out, but there's always posts about hunting hogs for free. No one ever posts they'll trade fixing fence or clearing brush to come help out. Think of it from the land owners side. Would you trust just anyone to come out with a gun and be shooting on your place ? Will they shoot an outbuilding , a goat , or cow ? I see both sides of this, and quite well I think..... I never saw the land owner side of this until I got my own place. Granted it is only 5.5 acres, and I only hunt dove and have a private shooting range. I don't want every yahoo over here blowing holes in my cedar fence posts, tearing up my road, leaving my gates open to let out the horses or the dogs, or catching their mirror in my fence. My own kids know better, I expect "adults" to know better as well, but they don't. Upkeep is a PITA, and very few friends that want to come shoot want to come help with that shit. The ones that do come help with that but don't pick up their hulls, wrappers, or climb my fences to get birds (I have retrievers for that crap) don't come back either. I pay for my stuff with blood, sweat, and cash. Those that abuse it don't use it. You want to hunt on someone's place for a decent fee? Contact them and tell them you can't afford to pay XXX, but I damn sure can stretch barb wire, run field fence, hang gates, mend fences, drag a road, shot cattle/swine/horses or whatever. I would love a place to hunt hogs, and I don't want to pay an arm and a leg either. In exchange for that though, I expect to make up the difference in upkeep, and good old fashioned courtesy of treating other's stuff as good or better than my own stuff. |
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I sure as Hell don't want my tax's going up so A&M can make air drop's of swine birth control pill's all over the place, I would rather pay to hunt them.
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The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access. Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. Hey Bro dont give up. Be a part of the solution. Go buy 1000 acres for 4 or 5 mil, spend several thousand a year and countless hours on maintenance and improvements. And then put the word out here on ARFCOM for everybody to come hunt free. Dont have 4 or 5 mil? I bet you have a car. I bet there are some young men in your neighborhood without cars that would love to borrow yours for the night if they would wash the windshield before they brought it home in the morning. Do your part and start small. |
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ItsARanchrifle is starting to to scare me... He is getting the 1000 yard stare. Thats actually me Been doing a lot of killin here lately. Ah so... steely eyed killer! ya hes a killer alright haha |
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Public hunting lands are loaded with hogs. It is work to drag them out but they are there.
Get a type two licence, a gps, and good boots. |
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Quoted: What does that have to do with it?Quoted: The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access. Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. Guys like you crack me up . Do you think land in Texas is cheap ? You need pigs then, to charge for hunts to pay for your property? Doesnt seem like that situation will ever eliminate the hog population, there is incentive to keep them. There is only a hog problem for some people. |
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ItsARanchrifle is starting to to scare me... He is getting the 1000 yard stare. Thats actually me Been doing a lot of killin here lately. Ah so... steely eyed killer! ya hes a killer alright haha Do I know you? Or more importantly, do you know me? |
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What does that have to do with it?
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The real issue is privately owned land and hunting access. Land owners want people to pay big $$$ to access the hogs. Most people don't want to or can't afford to pay the sometimes asinine prices for access. No hunters = hogs breed/spread like crazy. I gave up hunting in Texas years ago because of the nutzo prices for hunting leases. Lots of guys just like me. Guys like you crack me up . Do you think land in Texas is cheap ? You need pigs then, to charge for hunts to pay for your property? Doesnt seem like that situation will ever eliminate the hog population, there is incentive to keep them. There is only a hog problem for some people. All hunting helps pay for the property. |
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ItsARanchrifle is starting to to scare me... He is getting the 1000 yard stare. Thats actually me Been doing a lot of killin here lately. Ah so... steely eyed killer! ya hes a killer alright haha Do I know you? Or more importantly, do you know me? No, just an observation |
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I agree that some hunters are slobs that fuck things up. Just as a hell of a lot of land owners and lease operators see hunters as walking banks. We ain't all rich. What needs to happen is A&M(or some research place) should develop birth control for hogs. Maybe put it in food and air drop it all over the place. You may as well pay to hunt if that is your solution. Your taxes would pay for the air drops. How old are you ? you should run for government. Let's fix a problem with the most overpriced problem that might not work. LOL jeez! just kill 'em all. Is the article saying that hunting the pigs is free and legal to shoot on sight? |
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I sure as Hell don't want my tax's going up so A&M can make air drop's of swine birth control pill's all over the place, I would rather pay to hunt them. Not to mention...if the Aggies did it...they'd probably drop it over a lake. Hook 'em Horns! No...I don't think birth control is the answer. A generous "bounty" on hogs might make a dent....some places. |
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What would be a fair price to hunt hogs? $100 a day? In Colorado, locals only have to pay about $60 to hunt Elk but out of staters will buy a $500 license to hunt elk for 5 days.
I would be willing to pay $300 for a long weekend of hunting hogs, plus sounds like boar hunting means a lot more action than Elk. Question: try to shoot the young ones with the best meat or just trying to shoot as many as possible? |
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What would be a fair price to hunt hogs? $100 a day? In Colorado, locals only have to pay about $60 to hunt Elk but out of staters will buy a $500 license to hunt elk for 5 days.
I would be willing to pay $300 for a long weekend of hunting hogs, plus sounds like boar hunting means a lot more action than Elk. Question: try to shoot the young ones with the best meat or just trying to shoot as many as possible Kill as many as you can! If your paying to hunt it will depend on the rules of the ranch. Some only allow one hog for a set price then charge trophy fees and cleaning fees. If I were coming from out of state I would look for a hunt were there are no limits on kills. HTR's place is a popular spot for alot of folks to go on a hunt. I really can't tell you how fun it is to hunt with NVD's and thermal. I've gotten where I'll skip out on deer hunting to hog hunt all night. |
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NO! No taxes need to go to getting rid of hogs or funding any experiments... thats crazy talk for some corrupt big government welfare state.
Birth control pills for feral hogs? .. NO new taxes and NO new holes for my taxes to be dumped into. |
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NO! No taxes need to go to getting rid of hogs or funding any experiments... thats crazy talk for some corrupt big government welfare state. Birth control pills for feral hogs? .. NO new taxes and NO new holes for my taxes to be dumped into. Agreed. |
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NO! No taxes need to go to getting rid of hogs or funding any experiments... thats crazy talk for some corrupt big government welfare state. Birth control pills for feral hogs? .. NO new taxes and NO new holes for my taxes to be dumped into. Agreed. If they want them gone, they don't even have to pay me, I'll come out and shoot a bunch. I need the practice |
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I think it'sfunny how so many guys on here post and complain about hogs and the damage they do, when really most here probably aren't farmers, and people are making a lot of money charging people to hunt. The "hog problem" has given birth to a whole new cash crop in Texas––the pigs themselves!
I understand they are a serious problem for a lot of people. We have them here too, but are able to keep them in check right now... |
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I think it'sfunny how so many guys on here post and complain about hogs and the damage they do, when really most here probably aren't farmers, and people are making a lot of money charging people to hunt. The "hog problem" has given birth to a whole new cash crop in Texas––the pigs themselves! I understand they are a serious problem for a lot of people. We have them here too, but are able to keep them in check right now... I don't really recall many complaining about having a hog problem on this forum. Most of the complaints heave been from people wanting to hunt for free. Also, hogs affect cattle/goat ranches and deer leases, not just farms. |
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I think it'sfunny how so many guys on here post and complain about hogs and the damage they do, when really most here probably aren't farmers, and people are making a lot of money charging people to hunt. The "hog problem" has given birth to a whole new cash crop in Texas––the pigs themselves! I understand they are a serious problem for a lot of people. We have them here too, but are able to keep them in check right now... I don't really recall many complaining about having a hog problem on this forum. Most of the complaints heave been from people wanting to hunt for free. Also, hogs affect cattle/goat ranches and deer leases, not just farms. I understand that, the only people I know here in Alabama who have personally been affected by the pigs are family of mine with cattle land and friends with hunting land. But my friends with hunting land didn't ever want to kill them all and drive them away, despite all the damage, because they enjoy hunting and eating them! |
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