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Posted: 1/31/2011 10:59:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2011 11:05:28 AM EDT by skunkwerx]
Heard it on the radio this morning.
1 week into the unrest in Egypt, and their shelves are going empty.

Not only did they shut down the internet, but banks closed their doors and ATM machines were shut down.

Deliveries were not made, and there you have it..... shelves empty, and people with no money to buy,
even if there was something to buy.

Egypt is not the USA, but, it is a fairly modern country, they have cities, internet, ATM machines, etc.
It just goes to show how quickly civil unrest can lead to lack of communication, emtpy shelves, and banks closing up.

1 week.

Wonder how many Egyptian preppers there are??

Link Posted: 1/31/2011 11:18:43 AM EDT
Pyramids=ulitimate SHTF cache and ultimate OPSEC fail!

OK, proceed with the thread now...
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 11:52:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 11:58:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By skunkwerx:
Heard it on the radio this morning.
1 week into the unrest in Egypt, and their shelves are going empty.

Not only did they shut down the internet, but banks closed their doors and ATM machines were shut down.

Deliveries were not made, and there you have it..... shelves empty, and people with no money to buy,
even if there was something to buy.

Egypt is not the USA, but, it is a fairly modern country, they have cities, internet, ATM machines, etc.
It just goes to show how quickly civil unrest can lead to lack of communication, emtpy shelves, and banks closing up.

1 week.

Wonder how many Egyptian preppers there are??



I have wondered this as well. The average household may not have the wealth in some of lesser-developed countries that we do, but I've got to think that due to the general instability and hardships these countries face daily they would have a good idea how to survive where our people would stand with their mouth agape.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 12:00:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2011 12:32:17 PM EDT by Bubbatheredneck]
Originally Posted By skunkwerx:
Heard it on the radio this morning.
1 week into the unrest in Egypt, and their shelves are going empty.

Not only did they shut down the internet, but banks closed their doors and ATM machines were shut down.

Deliveries were not made, and there you have it..... shelves empty, and people with no money to buy,
even if there was something to buy.

Egypt is not the USA, but, it is a fairly modern country, they have cities, internet, ATM machines, etc.
It just goes to show how quickly civil unrest can lead to lack of communication, emtpy shelves, and banks closing up.

1 week.

Wonder how many Egyptian preppers there are??








Egypt is a third world country with a few tourist spots that keep the country afloat.





Link Posted: 1/31/2011 12:11:09 PM EDT
The recent news headlines from Egypt show a similarity to many of the TEOTWAWKI predictions we've seen mentioned in SurvivalBlog. In the past three days, we have witnessed: an interruption of communications, chaos and looting on city streets, those who are in-the-know quickly and quietly Getting Out of Dodge, many policemen staying in their stations or even at home to protect their own families, mass prison escapes, neighbors teaming up in ad hoc teams to protect lives and property, and the military either unable or unwilling to step in to stop most crimes. The Egyptian food-price-protests-turned-revolution should be a lesson to us.



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Link Posted: 1/31/2011 12:18:32 PM EDT
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 12:28:02 PM EDT
thats not bad. around here, the shelves are cleared out a few days before this snow storm is even supposed to get here. maybe egypt doesnt use JIT delivery.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 12:29:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment


I think they will. Even Gold is worth something only because we want it to be. Unless the money supply is discredited by hyperinflation, people will realize that good old US greenbacks will not decline in value after TEOTWAWKI, if for no other reason, because the printing presses will not be running!
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 1:59:59 PM EDT
I went to Egypt in October. If your near the nile there are farmers that you could raid, beside that not much else. Every one drank bottled water even the locals. Was about 3 pounds a bottle, around 60 cents. I would worry about the water supply more then food. The nile was green with all the crap in it. Every one was dirt poor. Begging kids all over the place. I was surprised that a revolution wasn't comming looking at the conditions.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 2:04:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2011 2:10:48 PM EDT by skunkwerx]
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Egypt is a third world country with a few tourist spots that keep the country afloat.


Ummmm.....
I think maybe their oil receipts might be a little bit more than they make on tourism.

Looks like maybe another anti-Israel, anti-western world regime is going to be the "new" Egypt.
Tunisia, Egypt, and they are talking about Jordan going down next.... orchestrated???

Israel has got to be feeling a bit more surrounded while they watch things unfold.

Question: how much more unstable will this make the whole region?
With respect to the US national security?
Will oil prices rise on fears? What will the price at the pump be in the spring?

I'm not saying anything is for sure, or whether I know any f the answers, but as preppers, I think it's worth following.

Egypt controls the Suez Canal and could certainly disrupt trade and oil shipments.

edit: Also heard.... 30% of the population is under 15 yrs old, 60% of the population of Egypt is under 30 yrs old.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 2:05:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Plattekill:
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment


I think they will. Even Gold is worth something only because we want it to be. Unless the money supply is discredited by hyperinflation, people will realize that good old US greenbacks will not decline in value after TEOTWAWKI, if for no other reason, because the printing presses will not be running!



Oh ya.

By that reasoning I'm saving all my 30 YO National Geographics...

Link Posted: 1/31/2011 3:24:14 PM EDT

Egypt is a third world country with a few tourist spots that keep the country afloat.



MOST of them cannot afford to prep. The one's that can have probably already bugged in or out.

The scary part for me is the neighborhood watches with 2x4's and the random sword. YEA! EFFECTIVE GUN CONTROL!

I live in the middle of a freaking corn field. 10 people show up wanting my stuff, regardless if its granny or 15 yr olds, I think I'll do better with an AR than my replica POS sword.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 3:27:47 PM EDT
Important lessons for everyone
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 3:31:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By skunkwerx:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Egypt is a third world country with a few tourist spots that keep the country afloat.


Ummmm.....
I think maybe their oil receipts might be a little bit more than they make on tourism.



What oil reserves.

Egypt isn't in the top 17 world producers of oil.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 3:41:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 3:44:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment


might want to rethink that amount. 200.00 in cash here wouldn't last you a day during a hurricain. plywood at 40.00 a sheet etc. it might be enough to gas up and get out but thats as far as it would get you. i actually saw cheap blue tarps here that normally sell for about 10.00 going for 50+. ymmv


+1

Price gouging will be rampant and you'll be lucky to buy a Snickers bar for $5 never mind something essential.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 5:05:20 AM EDT
CNN is reporting this morning that Egypt's banks and ATM's are shut down.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 5:11:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment


might want to rethink that amount. 200.00 in cash here wouldn't last you a day during a hurricain. plywood at 40.00 a sheet etc. it might be enough to gas up and get out but thats as far as it would get you. i actually saw cheap blue tarps here that normally sell for about 10.00 going for 50+. ymmv



Agreed. I was thinking the same thing. Need to up that amount hombre.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 5:16:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment


might want to rethink that amount. 200.00 in cash here wouldn't last you a day during a hurricain. plywood at 40.00 a sheet etc. it might be enough to gas up and get out but thats as far as it would get you. i actually saw cheap blue tarps here that normally sell for about 10.00 going for 50+. ymmv

I was going to say that, but thought it might sound overly critical since we have no way of knowing what the mans finances are. Maybe to him thats a huge amount of cash.

Congrats for him to having the foresight to set anything aside.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 5:39:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
As far as the ATM's not working, part of my preps is having $200 in 10's, 5's & Singles in the house. Nobody will really be able to break a twenty or count on Debit.

Of coarse thats IF they accecpt paper money as payment


might want to rethink that amount. 200.00 in cash here wouldn't last you a day during a hurricain. plywood at 40.00 a sheet etc. it might be enough to gas up and get out but thats as far as it would get you. i actually saw cheap blue tarps here that normally sell for about 10.00 going for 50+. ymmv

I was going to say that, but thought it might sound overly critical since we have no way of knowing what the mans finances are. Maybe to him thats a huge amount of cash.

Congrats for him to having the foresight to set anything aside.


Most Hurricane prep occurs prior to the event itself, when, most likely, the power will still be on. Now of course there is always the chance of a followup hurricane during the aftermath of the first one while the power is still off.

That being said, good advice on upping the cash amount. I would say $500 is probably what most people should look at as the bare minimum, and that's for a single guy or couple, not a family. Increase in household size = increase in preps.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 7:57:37 AM EDT
Thanks for the info, I take no offense at all. Good info.

$200.00, yes its a start, and will only cont to build. I only started this new way of life in July. Since then I've added

1 month of food

2,600 rounds of ammo.

200 cash

10 gallons of spare gas

More tools to the shed, IE: Ax, Shovel, hoses exc....

Not bad for starting 6 months ago.

Thanks all for the help.

WC6
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 8:02:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By skunkwerx:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Egypt is a third world country with a few tourist spots that keep the country afloat.


Ummmm.....
I think maybe their oil receipts might be a little bit more than they make on tourism.



What oil reserves.

Egypt isn't in the top 17 world producers of oil.


Agree, and with their large population, largest Arab state, using subsidized petrol, they might even be a net oil importer.

Maybe Mubarak is closing down things just to get people off the streets. Or by forcing them to loot food warehouses he can order his police to shoot them.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 8:50:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:00:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WildChild6:
Thanks for the info, I take no offense at all. Good info.

$200.00, yes its a start, and will only cont to build. I only started this new way of life in July. Since then I've added

1 month of food

2,600 rounds of ammo.

200 cash

10 gallons of spare gas

More tools to the shed, IE: Ax, Shovel, hoses exc....

Not bad for starting 6 months ago.

Thanks all for the help.

WC6


I agree and good job. As for myself need to go from survivalist to prepper now.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:07:51 AM EDT
People are going to start eating their mummies.



Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:13:59 AM EDT
A lot, perhaps most, folks in the developing world do not prep, or have much of an understanding as to what that means.

Some of the reasons are financial: money comes in as a trickle, and gets spent as such. Some are social: most folks around the world shop daily, rather than the once a week runs most folks in the Anglosphere make.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:16:45 AM EDT
This situation is spreading like wildfire into other countries. I just saw on the news that Jordan dissolved their Parliment.
I'll admit the news has not been a focus these past few days, but I am a starting to wonder if historians will wind up looking back on Tunis as they look back on the assasination of Archduke Ferdinand one month prior to the first shots of WWI
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:20:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 9:26:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SPBCTS:
This situation is spreading like wildfire into other countries. I just saw on the news that Jordan dissolved their Parliment.
I'll admit the news has not been a focus these past few days, but I am a starting to wonder if historians will wind up looking back on Tunis as they look back on the assasination of Archduke Ferdinand one month prior to the first shots of WWI


+1 I am thinking the same thing. They may end up being the spark that starts a big firestorm. Been reading about this "muslim brotherhood" movement and it is pretty scary to think what would happen if it catches on. FOr those that haven't tracked it... some of those countries have nukes and advanced platforms to launch them. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the dangers of nukes in the hands of radicals.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:14:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By oldrock:
Originally Posted By SPBCTS:
This situation is spreading like wildfire into other countries. I just saw on the news that Jordan dissolved their Parliment.
I'll admit the news has not been a focus these past few days, but I am a starting to wonder if historians will wind up looking back on Tunis as they look back on the assasination of Archduke Ferdinand one month prior to the first shots of WWI


+1 I am thinking the same thing. They may end up being the spark that starts a big firestorm. Been reading about this "muslim brotherhood" movement and it is pretty scary to think what would happen if it catches on. FOr those that haven't tracked it... some of those countries have nukes and advanced platforms to launch them. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the dangers of nukes in the hands of radicals.



Glenn beck touched on this yesterday. will con't to speak of this topic all this week.

not trying to highjack the thread making it about GB. Just saying this has been brought up.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 10:57:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TomJefferson:

As for preppers, I'd say once more way more than here. They're a poor country with 20% unemployment and its not a socialist government will take care of me utopia. Poor people tend to put things like food back if they can afford to do so.



You'd be surprised. Urban Egyptians in particular tend to shop every day, without much in the way of a home reserve. The countryside has the usual problems of a Third World nation.

Not too long ago, it was common to do very little cooking in the home. Instead, food was prepared there and then sent down to the local bakery or community oven to cook. Dunno if that's the case now, but it illustrates the point.

Link Posted: 2/1/2011 11:43:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 12:55:11 PM EDT
It does promote a greater sense of community. That's, in part, why the practice exists.

However, it doesn't do much for prepping, which is an issue right now for many people in the Middle East.
Link Posted: 2/1/2011 6:21:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By skunkwerx:
Heard it on the radio this morning.
1 week into the unrest in Egypt, and their shelves are going empty.

Not only did they shut down the internet, but banks closed their doors and ATM machines were shut down.

Deliveries were not made, and there you have it..... shelves empty, and people with no money to buy,
even if there was something to buy.

Egypt is not the USA, but, it is a fairly modern country, they have cities, internet, ATM machines, etc.
It just goes to show how quickly civil unrest can lead to lack of communication, emtpy shelves, and banks closing up.

1 week.

Wonder how many Egyptian preppers there are??



Modern country, ha. Aside from your occasional bare-arsed natives here and there, EVERY country is a "modern" country. They're just all nutty in different ways and amounts, us included.

To be fair I'm sure there are a lot of nice people here and there. I know some. But we're also talking about a country (mostly) full of Arabs. These people tend to have a hard time keeping a mid-20th century level of industry going in the first place. There is little need in someone's mind to prepare in the first place when it's considered a matter of course to steal and cheat anyone who isn't a relative, and anyways, they'll be fine if "allah wills it".

Yeah, it can happen here too, but there really aren't many good comparisons between the States and Egypt.
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