Deer Hunting w/my Colt 6920

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Posted: 7/27/2013 3:02:48 PM EDT

Guys - I want to hunt with my Ar this year. Whitetail. Ive been doing lots of shooting lately with differet rounds. Accuracy has been allover the board. I need one that matches great with my 1:7 twist barrel. Accuracy and expansion both being equal improtance both must be 100%. Any true deer hunters out here that can let me in on thier expeience? I sold my HOWA 338 this year so that leaves my with my .Marlin 30.30 and my COLT 6920.

Posted: 6/30/2013 5:03:26 AM EDT

[#1]

1:7 twist stay with the heavier bullets 62gr or 64gr. Bonded or Barnes TSX.

The 77gr Sierra Matchking and 75gr Hornady with Reloader 15 work excellent.

For a cheap the winchester factory load with 64gr PP would make a dandy deer load

Posted: 6/29/2013 2:34:56 PM EDT

[#2]

My 13 year old and I have killed six deer between us with Hornady 75gr BTHP. Each one shot, one kill.

Posted: 6/29/2013 2:35:00 PM EDT

[#3]

Thanks guys - I'll get both and see which one goes better with my 1:7 twist - I suspect the heavier will give a tighter pattern. with the exception of IMI M855, Most 'out of the box' 62grain or haeavier, has given much tighter patterns -over top of 50grain to 60 grain. --- noticably too. I think maybe the lighter wieght is spinning to fast to be as dead accurate

Posted: 6/30/2013 7:17:16 PM EDT

[#4]

Last year was my first time hunting with my ar. Took the Eotech off and put the scope on.
Double lung shot while chasing a doe.
A few big leaps and he went down. Complete pass thru both lungs.
Major internal damage.
Barnes TSX triple shok 55 grain. (not the tipped)
Upper Michigan.

Posted: 7/1/2013 7:55:15 PM EDT

[#5]

CapitolP,

What barrel length are you using, and what is a typical range when you are shooting pigs?

Are you rotary wing or super cub?

Posted: 7/2/2013 4:37:54 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
CapitolP,

What barrel length are you using, and what is a typical range when you are shooting pigs?

Are you rotary wing or super cub?

Out of the helicopter I use a 12" bbl and when stand/stalking I use a 16" bbl on both the ARs and bolt guns. Typical ranges are 50 yards to 250 yards. Beyond 300 yards we usually try to stalk up closer as opposed to taking a poke at them. We have shot some at 350-450 but that's rare.

As an aside. Last year I shot a javelina at 500 yards and the 70gr TSX did not open but I did not expect it to. The sound it made on impact was completely different than when the bullet is expanding, I would not have thought that.

P

Posted: 7/2/2013 4:50:34 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Anything will get the job done. Use what you have. I know a hillbilly / survival poacher who has killed 100's of deer with .22 long rifle. Its where you put the bullet.

Yah...and no. Not great advise. While poachers have killed tens of thousands of deer with 22lr they have also wounded 10x that. Depending on what the cover is where he hunts, the difference in finding an animal in the brush country vs. open hardwoods is vastly different. A fmj or mhp that does not yaw is going to go in at .224 and out the same .224. With no blood to follow in the brush country and no way of seeing where the deer went, you could lose an animal in a couple hundred yards easily. With so many good bullets available it doesnt make sense to hunt with sub-par ammo.

P

Posted: 6/30/2013 5:08:37 AM EDT

[#8]

I have killed hundreds of deer and over a thousand hogs with my 5.56 and hands down the best bullet is the 70gr TSX with the next best being the 62gr TSX. One of these 2 bullets will trump all else. I have used 60gr NP, 62gr Fusion, 64gr WPP, 65gr SGK, 69-77gr MHP, 75gr Swift, etc... The TSX is a reliable expander at realistic hunting distances, has 2x expansion within the first 2" of penetration, retains 100% of it's weight, has a petaled design which causes massive tissue damage and due to its flat profile on expansion delivers much more energy on target than conventional bullets. Other bullets will absolutely work BUT if you want the best (and you will pay for it) use the TSX. With their long design both should work well in your 7" twist.

P

Posted: 7/2/2013 5:59:08 PM EDT

[#9]

62 gr Tsx Or Federal Fusion 62 and 64 gr gold dot.

Posted: 6/30/2013 9:18:36 AM EDT

[#10]

Winchester 64 grain works good for me on whitetails.

Posted: 6/30/2013 9:56:11 AM EDT

[#11]

Bonded Soft points like the Fusion/Gold Dot
Or
TSX

Posted: 6/30/2013 10:18:24 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Bonded Soft points like the Fusion/Gold Dot
Or
TSX

Bonded soft points do not cause the tissue damage that the TSX's do, nor do they penetrate as deep due to weight loss. That's not to say they don't work and well, but the best is TSX. We were sent several Gold Dots to test on animals this past Fall and they did work well.

P

Posted: 6/30/2013 12:04:56 PM EDT

[#13]

I would feel very comfortable shooting any of these. I picked up the 70 gr TSX for this season

Federal Fusion 62gr

64gr SSP

70gr TSX

55gr TSX

Posted: 7/27/2013 11:00:54 AM EDT

[#14]

out to what range?

Posted: 7/27/2013 11:04:42 AM EDT

[#15]

@miketroyer

Where exactly in N. MI? I'm a Michigander too. Also wondering how far away the shot was, how long your barrel is, and what twist rate?

Posted: 6/30/2013 6:40:04 PM EDT

[#16]

CapitolP,

Have you tried the 62 grain Tipped TSX?

It has a larger diameter HP underneath the poly tip than the TSX.

Requires 1-8 twist/

Posted: 7/1/2013 6:47:13 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
CapitolP,

Have you tried the 62 grain Tipped TSX?

It has a larger diameter HP underneath the poly tip than the TSX.

Requires 1-8 twist/

I have tried the TTSX's. Honestly I have NEVER had a TSX fail to open, even "seconds" loadings with sealant in the hp mouth. I typically do not use the TTSX's because of seating depth in magazines and how it takes up case capacity for powder. When the TTSX came out I kinda scratched my head as to the "why". It basically boiled down to Barnes being able to address the "fail to open" myth from the Nosler Partition die-hards. Also I try to keep things simple. Putting a plug in a hole that needs fluid to expand seams sorta counter intuitive to me. I say that tongue and cheek because it is not a plug, but....

I use the 70gr TSX in all my guns for two reasons. The extra 8 grains does make a difference in penetration depth. On larger hogs and older, mature bucks (5.5-9.5 yrs old) the extra inches usually result in pass throughs which lends itself to better blood trails. Secondly I have a bunch of brown tip loaded up so I can grab one load for all my rifles.

In realistic hunting ranges the TSX expands just fine at 5.56 velocities so I do not need a more aerodynamic bullet with a better b.c.

P

Posted: 7/1/2013 3:25:21 PM EDT

[#18]

Anything will get the job done. Use what you have. I know a hillbilly / survival poacher who has killed 100's of deer with .22 long rifle. Its where you put the bullet.

Posted: 6/29/2013 10:30:48 AM EDT

[#19]

70gr Barnes TSX, if you don't reload Silver State Armory makes them.

Posted: 6/29/2013 12:33:49 PM EDT

[#20]

Federal Fusion 62 grain soft point bonded

Posted: 6/29/2013 3:49:44 PM EDT

[#21]

If it helps, all of my barrels are 1:8

Posted: 6/29/2013 4:18:53 PM EDT

[#22]

shot a few with the ar. 75gr.soft point

Posted: 6/29/2013 4:31:28 PM EDT

[#23]

Remington makes 62 grain Barnes TSX hog killer ammo now.

62 grain Fusion good value for money.

If you reload, 64 grain Nosler solid base bonded, 75 grain Swift bonded, 60 nosler partion and all the tipped TSX.

Posted: 6/29/2013 8:01:39 PM EDT

[#24]

I started hunting last year with 5.56, on private land where that's almost all the owner uses (.223 hunting rifles, not ARs). Most of the shots are short; well under 100 yards, and the two my sons killed last year dropped where they stood, both with Federal Fusion 62gr. If you're having accuracy issues, surely it's not at 100 yards or less, and frankly that's the limit that I'd personally take deer (under normal conditions) with .223. I have no doubts it'll kill southeastern US deer well past that, but 1000 ft-lbs of energy is a popular rule of thumb for whitetail, and 100 yards is about where you start going below that number with .223/5.56.

Posted: 7/27/2013 5:17:50 PM EDT

[#25]

My 1:7 twist Daniel Defense shoots Silver State Armory 70 gr TSX loads sub moa. They had them in stock a week or two ago. Best deer/hog round I have found for an AR.

Posted: 7/28/2013 4:36:00 AM EDT

[#26]

Ive hunted with Winchester 64gr SP's, and Fusion 62gr's.. I have a 1/9 twist although the new rifle is going to be 1/7. I would like to try TSX's as even in this thread there has been 3-4 people who swear by them, its a off the shelf option I guess.

Long live .223 for deer!

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