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Posted: 10/1/2008 12:33:58 PM EDT
Any feedback on speer, clark, hennesy?
I'm am leaning towards an eno hammock and bugnet with a speer tarp. Could easily set up for ground use tarp style camping using the hammock and net as a bivy if their are no trees. camping this weekend in my tent made me think maybe hammocks are the way to go, the ground is hard even with my prolite pad. |
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I use a Hennesy sometimes. I got an Expedition Asym, (IIRC) because I weighed 235 when I bought it (I'm at 205 now ).
I have no complaints. Mine is a nice field drab color (a little more brown than OD) and I can sleep comfortably in it on my side or my back. I've slept in it down to the high 20s and low 30s using a thin (1/3") closed cell EVA foam pad I got from www.owareusa.com between me and the fabric. I was going to link to the product, but don't see it anymore. If I were shopping for a hammock today, I'd take a look at www.jacksrbetter.com/ ETA it's great for the car camping/shooting trips my buddies and I go on a couple times a year. It's also great for backpacking as long as I'm camping below the tree line. |
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I use a home made one until it gets really cold. I sleep better than on the ground, and stay drier when it rains.
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Rodent did a write up on the Clark and Hennessy. It is in the archives so I will copy and paste it for you since you cannot access them. I own a Hennessy and love the thing.
From Rodent's write up, the pics have all been deleted so you will have to do your own search on those to see what the hammocks look like.
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For those that have access to the archives, the link to the thread above is archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=572539. The pictures are gone, but replies and such are still present.
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I have a speer and love it. It is lightweight, very comfortable, and extremely uncomplicated... all of which are things I look for in a camping setup. I do quite a bit of hiking and camping, and the ability to set up my hammock very quickly (5 minutes tops if I'm pokey about it) means that I will go ahead and run it out for breaks that I expect to last for anything longer than a simple breather.
I do not wake up cramped, sore, or bruised like I do when I sleep on the ground (even with my inflatable big agnes pad). Sleeping is very, very comfortable. In fact, I kinda have a hard time not falling asleep after I lay down in it. A big issue you need to address with ANY hammock set up is how to insulate your back side. If you don't have a foam pad, or an underquilt, and it's 50 degrees out, then it's like sitting in a pool of 50 degree water. For me, any temperature under about 75* requires insulation under me to stay comfortable. So either get a jacks-r-better, kick-ass quilt, or a speer SPE to stay warm or go over to hammock forum and learn how to make a multi-quilt. |
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FWIW, Wiggy's has their Lamilite poncho liners on sale for $17.50. You could probably shithook a decent, but inexpensive, underquilt from one of those.
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I keep a Hennessy in my trunk. Easy to set up, small, light. I use a inflatable pad underneath me for insulation when it gets cool. No other hammock system to compare it with, though. Normal tents are more comfortable (slightly) and roomy (lots)...but this is really compact.
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I have a clark north american and I love it. it is small, light and sets up quickly. With a pad and a good bag its VERY confortable. I have a 7 year old son so I won't say I'll never sleep in a tent again but when flying solo i'll be in the hammock. Its a bit pricey at $300 but good gear rarely is cheap
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Thanks guys.
None of you really seems to have had a bad experiance with any of the options, so that is good. |
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I use a home-made cinched end hammock and 10 x 10 silynlon tarp. 3/8 military foam pad with a Pacific Outdoors Equipment ThermoMax inflatable pad for insulation under me. I have been down to 15 degrees and been comfortable. I'll never sleep on the ground again if I can help it!
You can get loads of info and pictures of peoples setups (including mine) at www.hammockforums.net |
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I use the largest Henessy hammock, a fleece sleeping bag liner and a cotton baby pillow case to stuff my pullover into to make a pillow. I sleep better in that than I do in my own bed (a fact that I point out to my wife often).
South American hunting camps either have A-frame huts, in which case hunters sleep shoulder to shoulder slung accross the gable or in 8-post circular thatch huts in which case the hammocks are slung like the spokes of a wheel. I've slept on jungle roads slung between a tree and Toyota pickup, I've slept in the ruins of buildings tied to anything solid, I've slept on boats tied to rigging, I've made tree blinds out of hammocks. Martin Luther King said: "Free your mind and your ass will follow". I say: "Buy a Henessy hammock and free your ass". |
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I'm working on a home made hammock right now. I've got it to the point where I can hang in it but I still need to add the zipper and bug netting...then sew a tarp. Haven't been able to work on it for several weeks due to post Ike issues.
It's comfortable and I don't see going back to the ground unless I'm camping with my wife and kid. She prefers a tent. My wife is volunteering tonight at a fund raiser for Ike victims. I see a night in front of the sewing machine once the little one is in bed. |
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Did you do a Speer style? I'll probably order some 1.1 ripstop next week.
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+1 but no children. great design. I keep dry in wet weather. with a pad - warm in cold weather and with the weather shields back - cool in hot weather (the bug screen works great). great design. there is even a pocket inside that is perfect for your gun. it's comfortable; i am able to sleep on my side. i can hang in most areas without being on the look out for a suitable place to put the tent. i no longer crawl all over the floor to get in and out. in addition to between trees, i have hung from the tire carrier on my jeep to a fence post, between two trees over a brook (i just had to try), on the side of a steep mountain and between my motorcycls and a road sign -- and i just got it a couple of months ago. i recommend the clark. |
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I've logged several months in a Hennessy Expedition Asysm over the last 5 years. I highly recommend it. |
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Hennesy here. Everyone who tries it loves it. Works almost anywhere. I loaned mine to my brother for a mountain hike. It rained the entire trip and while everyone else had water runoff problems, etc. in their tents he was high & dry, comfortable, and his friends hated him.
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how is the ingress and egress in that hennesy. it seeems to me that it would be a pain.
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It is easy. Stand up through the opening, sit down, lay back. Easier than unzip, crouch down, crawl in.
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Yeah, it's not a big deal. The velcro pretty much snaps back together when you lift your legs up. I still run my fingers along the entrance to make sure I don't have any gaps that'll let skeeters in. Haven't had any problems with the bottom-entry.
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I'm making the Hennessy clone but with a zippered removable bug net. |
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Cool. The zipper mod is something I want to do with my Hennessy but I'll have to wait for later in the year since I have more outings planned. I really need to get off my but and order the fabric for my underquilt so I can knock that out before my next trip.
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Adding drip lines is easy enough.
I just got the JRB WeatherShield and suspension system. Unfortunately the package arrived after I'd already left for this weekend's camping trip so I'll have to give it its first run tonight. I'm hoping it'll get me through my 3-day hike at the end of the month and give me enough time to make my DIY underquilt. |
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Travel Hammocks
Depends on what type of climate/weather. I have the Ultralight, and use a tarp if it's gonna rain or if it's cold. They also have the Skeeter Beeter which i great for the bugs. I put a Thermarest in with me and it's great for winter camping. |
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I went with the rings. The way the water was sheeting on the Clark ropes in heavy rain didn't make me feel a string was going to take care of it. I have not tested that though. |
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i got my clark north american last spring. it came with drip rings. i have not had a problem with rainwater. i use a closed cell foam pad so far i have not been cold and my pad stiffens the bottom a bit so i side sleeping just fine. |
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I got mine in the late spring. It didn't. Clark gave me the rings for free though and they replaced my rainfly when it tore on the rear seam even though that was likely my fault. Good company to deal with. Always responded to emails right away. I can't get comfortable on CCF pads so that didn't work for me. My self-inflating thermarest didn't either. It always creased in some uncomfortable way. The Exped DownMat 7 has been awesome so far. I tried other stuff first because the Exped is a brick on weight but I keep coming back to the Exped for comfort. As I said. Each person is going to have to find what works for them in a hammock. Just a note.... the RX-200 rainfly is really nice. That's the Super-sized version of the XL fly. It's a foot longer end to to end and makes it a little easier to position the hammock. I also like the way it attaches on the RX-200 verses the standard XL. |
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I did a bunch of research on all the hammocks mentioned, and chose this one...the jungle hammock.
http://www.mosquitohammock.com/ I'm in the military and go to the field frequently. These have held up to wind, rain and snow. Add a sleeping pad between the double bottom and you are set. |
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