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Posted: 4/27/2021 12:03:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Noticed the following on the TGIF site: NOTICE - Legacy + Prime = TGIF Legacy server merged/redirected to prime. Apr 25, 2021 @ 6:15 AM CDT I haven't spent the time since setting up my hotspots to learn anything more about DMR. Does this mean I'm going to have to change something in my Configuration page? Did ARFCOM get migrated to TGIF Prime? I won't even ask what the deal is with the FCS 556 TG vs TGIF 556 TG,  Guess we'll find out soon enough. I was hoping they forgot about migrating 556.  FCS 556 is just another Arf room, as is FCS 336 (last I checked). |
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Posted: 4/27/2021 6:43:07 PM EDT
[#2]
I updated my droidstar app with the 16 digit hotspot key, required for TGIF Prime, and not seeing me key up at Prime last heard.
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Posted: 4/27/2021 8:10:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Can someone post a tldr on the prime vs legacy thing, I haven't been on 556 in a long time but want to be able to.
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Posted: 4/27/2021 8:15:04 PM EDT
[#4]
So am I gonna need to make any changes to my OpenSpot 3 or my radio?
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Posted: 4/27/2021 9:09:43 PM EDT
[#5]
I updated my pi-star, I guess I'd already done whatever I needed to do as I just talked to K9Bob for a second and it was working fine. Hadn't been on TGIF for probably 6mo or more. I used to let it run in the background while working but the audio started to drive me nuts so I turned it off and more or less forgot about it.
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Posted: 4/28/2021 12:38:50 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So am I gonna need to make any changes to my OpenSpot 3 or my radio? Your radio, no.. Edit: It seems no changes need to be made after our QSO just now with you and K9-Bob. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 12:46:09 AM EDT
[#7]
The original walkthrough for setting up your pi-star on TGIF Prime
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Posted: 4/28/2021 1:04:21 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your radio, no.. I bet you will have update your OS3 with the hotspot "key" (mine was 16 digits) But, I updated the pi-star and I'm still not getting in. @Nmbmxer what fields did you have to update on your hotspot, guess you had to register and all that jazz. I did that last time they were changing the network. Ok well I haven’t done anything and had it on awhile ago. Heard some of the usual people on so it seems to be working. Didn’t Tx though. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 1:33:29 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok well I haven’t done anything and had it on awhile ago. Heard some of the usual people on so it seems to be working. Didn’t Tx though. I edited my my post above, about configuring your OS3...after our QSO, it seems it's working fine. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 9:01:43 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The original walkthrough for setting up your pi-star on TGIF Prime |
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Posted: 4/30/2021 4:31:10 PM EDT
[#11]
Sorry I missed the net last night. I was in the middle of stringing up a 600 ohm ladder line doublet that can be taken down quickly to hide from the commi-HOA. Then I discovered my internet was screwed because the cable company "upgraded speeds." Then, to top it off, TMO decided to interrupt my cell service (never had a single problem with Sprint before the takeover.) It wasn't until I got up this morning that I figured out I never unplugged my router last night during the repetitive power cycles trying to get back online.
How did the TGIF connections work out last night? Did everyone have to reconfigure for Prime, with the generated hotspot security password? I may goof with it later tonight. I'm recovering from antenna play again today, and then working on my brother's truck in between. Some bicycle loser drove an icepick into two of his brand new 35" tires, and two of his wife's car tires. He landed up buying four 37" tires because no one had 35s in stock, then there was some rubbing I had to clearance. Right as he was leaving, his steering wheel "popped" and began wiggling (must not have been seated when the steering wheel was replaced six months ago.) Fixed that before he finally got to drive home, lol. Ranting off... 
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Posted: 5/1/2021 10:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry I missed the net last night. I was in the middle of stringing up a 600 ohm ladder line doublet that can be taken down quickly to hide from the commi-HOA. Then I discovered my internet was screwed because the cable company "upgraded speeds." Then, to top it off, TMO decided to interrupt my cell service (never had a single problem with Sprint before the takeover.) It wasn't until I got up this morning that I figured out I never unplugged my router last night during the repetitive power cycles trying to get back online. How did the TGIF connections work out last night? Did everyone have to reconfigure for Prime, with the generated hotspot security password? I may goof with it later tonight. I'm recovering from antenna play again today, and then working on my brother's truck in between. Some bicycle loser drove an icepick into two of his brand new 35" tires, and two of his wife's car tires. He landed up buying four 37" tires because no one had 35s in stock, then there was some rubbing I had to clearance. Right as he was leaving, his steering wheel "popped" and began wiggling (must not have been seated when the steering wheel was replaced six months ago.) Fixed that before he finally got to drive home, lol. Ranting off... Everything went fine, and better than your day yesterday Hope today is better, man..Good call on the stealth antenna, hope that works as intended. The bottom line is you don't have to change anything, but it is highly recommended you update your hotspot with the registration security key from TGIF, so it can't be hijacked by commies. |
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Posted: 5/1/2021 10:15:28 PM EDT
[#13]
Great net Thursday! 12 check ins with NCS.
Upcoming in future nets, feel free to mention any gear to buy-sell-trade if so inclined. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 8:38:27 PM EDT
[#14]
Net 2nite
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Posted: 5/13/2021 10:52:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Chinese rocket body parts burned up during deorbit and took out a fan dipole... or so I heard.
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Posted: 5/14/2021 12:55:24 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese rocket body parts burned up during deorbit and took out a fan dipole... or so I heard.   Attached File
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Posted: 5/20/2021 7:07:33 PM EDT
[#17]
Might miss the net tonight. My OpenSpot 3 seems to be frozen. Can’t shut it off or anything. LED status is blinking normally but nada.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 11:19:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might miss the net tonight. My OpenSpot 3 seems to be frozen. Can’t shut it off or anything. LED status is blinking normally but nada. You were in like Flynn. Dusted off the 878--man that radio has some freat receive audio. |
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Posted: 5/27/2021 8:53:03 PM EDT
[#19]
bumparoo, back on c4fm2dmr for the net at least, having an issue with inputting my tgif key into dmr mode on my hotspot, works when I cross-mode ?
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Posted: 6/2/2021 8:54:52 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: bumparoo, back on c4fm2dmr for the net at least, having an issue with inputting my tgif key into dmr mode on my hotspot, works when I cross-mode ? Make sure that you don't have a space in front of the Hotspot Security key when you do the copy and paste. |
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Posted: 6/3/2021 3:45:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Make sure that you don't have a space in front of the Hotspot Security key when you do the copy and paste. Will do if I set it up again for straight DMR, I bet that's the ticket! |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 1:32:54 PM EDT
[#22]
Net day bump. Preliminary topic, GMRS info, tips, etc.
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Posted: 6/12/2021 3:56:50 AM EDT
[#23]
 ATF’s New Brace Rules are INSANE Yesterday’s discussion. Or part of it at least. |
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Posted: 6/16/2021 12:15:06 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryThat guy is on point.I like how he put this: It's not like new laws have been passed, they are just arbitrarily changing their fucking mind.  Clowns. |
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Posted: 6/16/2021 1:36:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That guy is on point.I like how he put this: Clowns. 
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Posted: 6/16/2021 11:39:22 AM EDT
[#26]
Got my DMR ID and am in the database, just waiting on TGIF to agree that I’m in the database.
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Posted: 6/17/2021 1:41:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2021 2:02:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my DMR ID and am in the database, just waiting on TGIF to agree that I’m in the database. @BravoOtt PM/email me if you need to test anything. |
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Posted: 6/17/2021 8:06:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @BravoOtt PM/email me if you need to test anything. Well I’m all accepted by TGIF and everyone else but the phone app keeps rejecting me  EDIT: All good now, likely a combo of impatience and lack of knowledge on my end. |
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Posted: 6/18/2021 8:31:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I’m all accepted by TGIF and everyone else but the phone app keeps rejecting me https://i.ibb.co/ccg2s99/E8207689-15-B0-462-A-BC4-A-7-D291-D2-F4-A47.jpg EDIT: All good now, likely a combo of impatience and lack of knowledge on my end. 
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Posted: 7/1/2021 7:51:48 PM EDT
[#31]
late bump for the net tonight..
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Posted: 7/1/2021 11:45:08 PM EDT
[#32]
@Keith1980
You weren't kidding, I connected to your AO repeaters through a local echolink-linked repeater using DTMF very cool! A local ham then connected to his Allstar node through the repeater which was linked to Hubnet in the UK. That really opens up a helluva lot of possibilities. |
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Posted: 7/2/2021 8:39:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Keith1980 You weren't kidding, I connected to your AO repeaters through a local echolink-linked repeater using DTMF very cool! A local ham then connected to his Allstar node through the repeater which was linked to Hubnet in the UK. That really opens up a helluva lot of possibilities. Yea it’s pretty neat. I could definitely tell you were on the phone though. Using your base will definitely give you better audio. |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 1:08:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Net 2-nite
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Posted: 7/8/2021 7:21:46 PM EDT
[#35]
Tested fine and setting a reminder, I’d like to get one successful net in this week
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Posted: 7/8/2021 8:01:09 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tested fine and setting a reminder, I’d like to get one successful net in this week You talked to anyone on the TG yet? |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 8:08:08 PM EDT
[#37]
Not yet, have only done the SSB net before. Did spot myself active while transmitting earlier and I’ll do an echo before i join in
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Posted: 7/8/2021 8:11:14 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not yet, have only done the SSB net before. Did spot myself active while transmitting earlier and I’ll do an echo before i join in I’m available now for a test. Only have 10 min or so. Gotta put the kids to bed and then I’ll be back for the net. |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 8:32:14 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m available now for a test. Only have 10 min or so. Gotta put the kids to bed and then I’ll be back for the net. Thanks again for the help, calmed the nerves after the parrot test was stuttering like hell. |
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Posted: 7/8/2021 8:33:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks again for the help, calmed the nerves after the parrot test was stuttering like hell. No problem. Parrot does that sometimes. No clue why. |
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Posted: 7/10/2021 10:35:59 PM EDT
[#41]
Is there a video or document out there that walks someone through setup of this on the DMR radio? I have a GD-77 and an MMDVM hotspot. I think the hot spot is setup ok but for the exception of not having put the offset in. I followed the configuration tutorial by hamradioconcepts on youtube. The hotspot which I got off eBay is not marked with an offset and I figure I can do that after I have verified the setup works.
So as far as the GD-77, I've found a few videos but they all walk you through setting it up to connect to a DMR repeater. I'm assuming the setup is different for connecting to a hotspot. For example it asks for a call ID. Is that 556? I have no idea. I do have my DMR ID so that part of it is done. Any tips would be very much appreciated! I'm pretty good with the computer end of this but the DMR end..... not so much. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 10:13:36 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a video or document out there that walks someone through setup of this on the DMR radio? I have a GD-77 and an MMDVM hotspot. I think the hot spot is setup ok but for the exception of not having put the offset in. I followed the configuration tutorial by hamradioconcepts on youtube. The hotspot which I got off eBay is not marked with an offset and I figure I can do that after I have verified the setup works. So as far as the GD-77, I've found a few videos but they all walk you through setting it up to connect to a DMR repeater. I'm assuming the setup is different for connecting to a hotspot. For example it asks for a call ID. Is that 556? I have no idea. I do have my DMR ID so that part of it is done. Any tips would be very much appreciated! I'm pretty good with the computer end of this but the DMR end..... not so much. @rssc Sorry been busy/ and some medical bs going on. The offset is only present on duplex hotspot. A screenshot of your configuration page would be helpful. We can get you dialed in. This is a good place to start: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Outdoors/DMR-Talk-Group-for-Arfcom-Hams/22-694377/ |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 6:41:28 PM EDT
[#43]
I'm either going to miss or join late tonight, worker's wife was in the hospital and I convinced her to please go see her and let me stay for a double rather than have her stuck here worried for 6 hours.
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:16:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @rssc Sorry been busy/ and some medical bs going on. The offset is only present on duplex hotspot. A screenshot of your configuration page would be helpful. We can get you dialed in. This is a good place to start: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Outdoors/DMR-Talk-Group-for-Arfcom-Hams/22-694377/ Thank you so much Alembic. I have a duplex hotspot but am setting it up as simplex because most of the tutorials I've seen online are for simplex. Figured I might as well go with as easy a configuration as simply possible and also read that a duplex hotspot will work as simplex hotspot if configured that way. I did register with TGIF and am verified. I followed the tutorial where you generate your own password and enter that in the expert mode configuration on PiStar. As far as the GD77, I configured that according to another tutorial I found online. The documentation for the radio seems pretty horrible. I am able to select TG556 on the radio but do not hear anything. Please let me know if you need screenshots of any other areas in PiStar. |
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Posted: 7/15/2021 9:25:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Picture of my waterfall per what we were talking about. The Cuban military started this after Tuesday when local Miami hams started talking to Cuba.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:16:50 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you so much Alembic. I have a duplex hotspot but am setting it up as simplex because most of the tutorials I've seen online are for simplex. Figured I might as well go with as easy a configuration as simply possible and also read that a duplex hotspot will work as simplex hotspot if configured that way. I did register with TGIF and am verified. I followed the tutorial where you generate your own password and enter that in the expert mode configuration on PiStar. As far as the GD77, I configured that according to another tutorial I found online. The documentation for the radio seems pretty horrible. I am able to select TG556 on the radio but do not hear anything. Please let me know if you need screenshots of any other areas in PiStar. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25848/1_png-2014965.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25848/2_png-2014966.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25848/3_png-2014967.JPG The only thing I would try is under DMR configuration, enter your 16 digit key from TGIF in the hotspot security field. And take that password OUT of the expert mode and use Passw0rd or passw0rd instead. Is your radio applying a transmit offset? Can you make a manual dial to 556 (group call)? If nothing else, you can use droidstar app (testflight on ios) on your cell phone to get in until your set up. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:26:35 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Picture of my waterfall per what we were talking about. The Cuban military started this after Tuesday when local Miami hams started talking to Cuba. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/262514/13EDE939-4FAD-48FB-A127-9E4A4E505B2D-2014986.jpg Ah yes, that pulsing drone you played was interesting..  Can the citizens use hotspots, curious as to their cellular infrastructure? |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 9:28:54 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm either going to miss or join late tonight, worker's wife was in the hospital and I convinced her to please go see her and let me stay for a double rather than have her stuck here worried for 6 hours. Absolutely. We'll catch you next week. 
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Posted: 7/18/2021 9:55:38 AM EDT
[#49]
Anyone know how much data DMR uses? My mother in law gave me her T-Mobile hotspot and it has 2GB a month of 4G LTE and after that it slows to 2G speeds. Figured I’d use it for mobile DMR only and when I Google I get all kinds of different answers.
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Posted: 7/18/2021 1:55:09 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know how much data DMR uses? My mother in law gave me her T-Mobile hotspot and it has 2GB a month of 4G LTE and after that it slows to 2G speeds. Figured I’d use it for mobile DMR only and when I Google I get all kinds of different answers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know how much data DMR uses? My mother in law gave me her T-Mobile hotspot and it has 2GB a month of 4G LTE and after that it slows to 2G speeds. Figured I’d use it for mobile DMR only and when I Google I get all kinds of different answers. I don't know but Curtis and I discussed it before, hard to say since straming videos etc. on the same devices makes it hard to determine. The thread on Riddit puts out some YMMV data, at least. Depends an awful lot on how busy the talkgroups are that you're monitoring. For the last month, averaging 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, monitoring two talk groups, occasional use, and one hour of a net, I used 49mb. The most I've used in a month in the past 6 months is 80mb. I did a bunch of this a while back, here are my results. Idle: 5.7MB/hr (with admin dashboard open in tab) Idle: 2MB/hr (without admin dashboard open in tab) Semi busy: 6.7MB/hr (without dashboard etc) Busy: 25MB/hr (with dashboard, etc) So, JUST the admin dashboard open is let's call it 4MB/hour. So that last number, busy, 21MB/hr or so. That was on CB19/TAC310 and was continuously busy. |
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