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Posted: 4/15/2008 6:07:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/15/2008 6:08:01 PM EDT by Face_Stabber]
Say it's not the deer season and you end up having to kick a charging deer in the head and it dies. Do you get in any trouble for taking the carcass? Do you have to report it if it's on a nature preserve?

I know this sounds insane, but I had a deer stare me down today and start stomping it's hooves. I, of course, responded in kind, because where I'm from thems fightin' words.
Link Posted: 4/15/2008 6:29:15 PM EDT
I dont know why I had to respond to this but WTF????
Link Posted: 4/15/2008 6:44:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Face_Stabber:
Say it's not the deer season and you end up having to kick a charging deer in the head and it dies. Do you get in any trouble for taking the carcass? Do you have to report it if it's on a nature preserve?

I know this sounds insane, but I had a deer stare me down today and start stomping it's hooves. I, of course, responded in kind, because where I'm from thems fightin' words.



Face-Stabber, it is DEFINATELY time to stop drinking the Everclear straight!
Link Posted: 4/15/2008 7:06:06 PM EDT
A deer will kick your ass. If you really kill it in self defense I'd call the authorities.
Link Posted: 4/15/2008 7:34:40 PM EDT
theres no way in hell you can kick a charging buck in the face, you must be Chuck Norris or something....

If its in self defense, I would tell the local DNR office and leave it be.
Link Posted: 4/15/2008 8:20:25 PM EDT
It didn't have any antlers and looked like it only weighed maybe 150 pounds at most. And a front kick isn't very hard to connect.

I was just wondering if there was any legal trouble someone would get into in a situation like this.
Link Posted: 4/15/2008 8:27:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Face_Stabber:
It didn't have any antlers and looked like it only weighed maybe 150 pounds at most. And a front kick isn't very hard to connect.

I was just wondering if there was any legal trouble someone would get into in a situation like this.
You are underestimating that deer. If a deer ever attacks you....my money is on the deer....You could be Chuck Norris I still think the deer has the upper hand.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 4:05:27 AM EDT
In regards to fighting a deer, the deer has a clear advantage. You don't have much chance of knocking one out with a front kick or a round house to the head. That was being optomistic. You have zero chance. If somehow you were able to get a naked choke on a deer you might have a chance but a slim one.

The legal aspects of keeping a deer carcus killed out of season vary state by state. Look into the game laws in your state. In Texas you are not allowed to keep a deer killed in a collision with a vehicle (it is common practice to divide the meat between the wrecker driver, the officer making the report, and the police supervisor on the scene)and the same would be true of one you beat down in self defense.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 6:28:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 7:07:20 AM EDT
"hello...911? A deer just kicked my ass!"
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 8:14:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2008 8:15:40 AM EDT by thebeekeeper1]
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 9:38:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2008 9:41:27 AM EDT by Headless_T_Gunner]
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 11:11:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/photos/deer-1.jpg
You left out the gratuitous amounts of human blood.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 11:15:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 12:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2008 12:51:22 PM EDT by Headless_T_Gunner]

Originally Posted By emcs31089:

Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/photos/deer-1.jpg
You left out the gratuitous amounts of human blood.


OK. How is this?


Link Posted: 4/16/2008 2:57:26 PM EDT
Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 3:49:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/16/2008 3:50:29 PM EDT by Banditman]
Deer can dodge an arrow going over 200 feet per second. Your kick would not be going anywhere near that fast and a healthy wild deer will dodge your kick and kick your ass.
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 11:16:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner:

Originally Posted By emcs31089:

Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/photos/deer-1.jpg
You left out the gratuitous amounts of human blood.


OK. How is this?


img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/photos/deer.jpg
That's probably more realistic!
Link Posted: 4/16/2008 11:53:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 11:58:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko


Bwahahaha


Anyways, I probably had 100 lbs on this deer as it wasn't anything like the size of that buck. I understand what you guys are saying, but this deer didn't have any antlers and would have to of been stupid to attack me in the first place.


OT: I drink Golden Grain.
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 12:15:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Face_Stabber:

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko


Bwahahaha


Anyways, I probably had 100 lbs on this deer as it wasn't anything like the size of that buck. I understand what you guys are saying, but this deer didn't have any antlers and would have to of been stupid to attack me in the first place.


OT: I drink Golden Grain.



No Antlers!!! Good Lord. You are lucky to be alive. The antlerless ones are ten times meaner than the ones with antlers. You see, the ones without antlers get picked on by the ones with antlers and get run off from the better feed areas. So for an antlerless deer to be able to survive they become extremely agressive.

Link Posted: 4/17/2008 3:36:50 PM EDT
Chuck Norris's blood type=Ass Kickin Positive
Link Posted: 4/17/2008 4:24:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/17/2008 4:26:44 PM EDT by fatalerror113]
Humans have killed deer with hand held weapons for hundreds of thousands of years, its only lately that we've become such wusses. I've seen my grandfather use a knife to "finish off" one that my uncle shot. It was truely a sight to behold, that old man going for that deer with a kinfe, while all of us are thinking "OMFG he is going to get gored".

yes, I'll admit, in his eyes I am a "wuss": one time during muzzeloader season it was me, my cousin and my grandfather walking out to our stands. We see a deer and my cousin shoots it, it falls but is still flopping around trying to get up. I shoot it and it dies. Grandpa yells:"why did you shoot it, why didn't you use your knife!?" I said "because bullets are cheap and hospital bills aren't".


Like others have said check your local laws. I've read a survival book about people killing deer with knifes, it was out west somewhere (maybe on a reservation...can't remeber). So yes, it can be done.

I know in PA that it is illegal to hunt with a spear.

And listen to everyone else, trying to kung fu a deer is just going to get your forhead split open by a hoof to the face.
Link Posted: 4/18/2008 8:02:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/18/2008 8:07:50 PM EDT by KOBK]
I would have to give this showdown to the deer, fighting anything larger than a small yearling would probably beat you into a coma and then some.

tim
Link Posted: 4/19/2008 5:30:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Face_Stabber:
It didn't have any antlers and looked like it only weighed maybe 150 pounds at most. And a front kick isn't very hard to connect.

I was just wondering if there was any legal trouble someone would get into in a situation like this.

Antlers are'nt the biggest concern anyway, it's those sharp hooves you need to worry about.
Link Posted: 4/19/2008 8:56:19 PM EDT
Damn, Chuck Norris does post here..
Link Posted: 4/19/2008 10:21:03 PM EDT
height=8
Originally Posted By Byrd-Shooter:
theres no way in hell you can kick a charging buck in the face, you must be Chuck Norris or something....

If its in self defense, I would tell the local DNR office and leave it be.


LOL!! Chuck Norris indeed.
Link Posted: 4/20/2008 5:26:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
First, foot stomping is done in an effort to get you to move. The deer was unsure what you were, but strongly suspected you were a threat/human. As you had remained motionless it was having trouble discerning what you were, and couldn't smell you, hence the foot stomping. They do not stomp to threaten!

+1, IME footstomping is followed by gettting a good view of the reason they're called white tail.

If you're truly concerned, raising your arms and yelling ought to do it. Rutting bucks excluded, they can be a bit unpredictable.
Link Posted: 4/20/2008 12:46:19 PM EDT
This is halirous!! It really made me laugh those first few comments back to facestabber
Link Posted: 4/22/2008 12:05:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko


Link Posted: 4/23/2008 6:40:06 AM EDT
Since it was a doe, why didn't you just offer her a couple of drinks and try to get her back to her place?

–but seriously–

If you're going to kill a defenseless deer out of season, you're going to have to leave a "throw down", a cheap handgun or a knife, or you'll be arrested for murder – of a female, no less!
Link Posted: 4/24/2008 5:04:30 AM EDT
Nothing has the upper hand against Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris once played Russian roulette with a fully load gun and won.
Link Posted: 4/24/2008 11:38:07 PM EDT
150lb deer, you weigh 100lbs more then said deer = kick to the head not happening, unless you're 6'5''
Link Posted: 4/24/2008 11:54:42 PM EDT
Deer are tough...I had to finish a deer hit by a car in off season one time and keep a heavy ball peen hammer in the vehicle and with that deer flopping around it took about six real good slams to the head to put it down.
As to the foot stomp it is a warning also to other deer in the area that possible danger is near and when it sees you the snort comes as soon as the tail goes up and it is gone.A doe in the week or so after she drops her fawn if you come up on her she will stand near and not run off when you come up but get your attention with a stomp or two then stare then walk away and stop to try and make you follow her away from the new fawn.
I walk up fawns ever June and is a fine thing to see the new ones all spindly legged trying to hide in the oak leaves and have taken some nice pics of them.
Link Posted: 4/25/2008 10:35:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/27/2008 6:50:06 AM EDT
height=8
Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko


I love that vid. As soon as I started reading this thread it came to mind.
Link Posted: 4/27/2008 3:44:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fatalerror113:
Humans have killed deer with hand held weapons for hundreds of thousands of years, its only lately that we've become such wusses. I've seen my grandfather use a knife to "finish off" one that my uncle shot. It was truely a sight to behold, that old man going for that deer with a kinfe, while all of us are thinking "OMFG he is going to get gored".

yes, I'll admit, in his eyes I am a "wuss": one time during muzzeloader season it was me, my cousin and my grandfather walking out to our stands. We see a deer and my cousin shoots it, it falls but is still flopping around trying to get up. I shoot it and it dies. Grandpa yells:"why did you shoot it, why didn't you use your knife!?" I said "because bullets are cheap and hospital bills aren't".


Like others have said check your local laws. I've read a survival book about people killing deer with knifes, it was out west somewhere (maybe on a reservation...can't remeber). So yes, it can be done.

I know in PA that it is illegal to hunt with a spear.

And listen to everyone else, trying to kung fu a deer is just going to get your forhead split open by a hoof to the face.


finishing off a wounded deer with a knife is not the same as killing a live deer bare handed. I have ended many a deer with a knife its no big deal. However I would not tackle a live ininjured deer barehanded.
Link Posted: 4/29/2008 3:32:40 AM EDT
maybe the deer has a glass chin, and would go down with one roundhouse kick....

you could also try the Mike Tyson approach.... Bite its ear off. If you can get in close enough.
Link Posted: 5/2/2008 6:55:54 PM EDT
Deer wont charge Chuck. You are dead for implying otherwise.
Link Posted: 5/7/2008 11:35:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Valkyrie:
Damn, Chuck Norris does post here..


No I don't.

Wait a minute,got me this time...
Link Posted: 5/7/2008 9:24:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2008 9:33:48 PM EDT by Goose88]
Kicking a dear in the head = rediuclous.

all though I've always wanted to hunt deer with a spear, caveman style!!!
Link Posted: 5/7/2008 10:23:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hoplophile:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNGGbozilko


Lol you think that is funny take a look at this....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_7yJdxWOsc&NR=1
Link Posted: 5/9/2008 12:16:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Face_Stabber:
Say it's not the deer season and you end up having to kick a charging deer in the head and it dies.


I really, really think you could do it. Just make sure to get it on video. I want to study your technique.
Link Posted: 5/14/2008 7:22:52 AM EDT
info you may need that a friend sent to me:
I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed
it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first
step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they
congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me
when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at
the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it
should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its
head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The
cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were
not having any of it. After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up -- 3 of
them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the
feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I
wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a
good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell
it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation.

I took a step towards it..it took a step away. I put a little tension on
the rope and then received an education.
The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there
looking at you funny while you rope it,
they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope. That deer
EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT
stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I
could fight down with a rope and with some dignity. A deer-- no chance.
That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling
it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and
started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me th at having a
deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had originally
imagined.

The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many other
animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to
jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few
minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing
out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for
corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of
that rope. I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its
neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere..

At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that
moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling
was mutual. Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where
I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against
various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still
think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I
shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so
I didn't want the deer to have it suffer a slow death, so I managed to get
it lined bac k up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had
set before hand...kind of like a squeeze chute.

I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope
back. Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years
would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very
surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed
hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by
a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and
shakes its head --almost like a pit bull.

They bite HARD and it hurts. The proper thing to do when a deer bites you
is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking
instead. My method was ineffective.. It seems like the deer was biting and
shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I,
being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by
now) tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the bejesus out of my right
arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day. Deer
will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back
feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are
surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that, when an animal -- like
a horse --strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily,
the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive
move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit
so you can escape.

This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would
not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy.
I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run. The re ason I had
always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you
is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the
head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being
twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run,
it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.

Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately
leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What
they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are
laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head. I finally
managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.

So now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a
scope so that they can be somewhat equal to the Prey.
Link Posted: 5/16/2008 12:23:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/16/2008 12:33:25 AM EDT by Rcd567]


Dude, I get your guns. That Doe will dump a 55 gallon can of whoop ass on you.
Link Posted: 5/16/2008 4:52:14 AM EDT
I DID IT.
Taking a last cruise on the Yamaha 100 on the ranch before going back to college (25 years ago), I got into a race with a doe in a big hay field. We she side swiped me twice pretty hard I almost wrecked, the third time I was ready. I hit her as hard as she hit me. She went down, I didn,t. I spun around and dropped the bike and jumped on her and twisted her neck till it popped. My friend rode up and went
Well sometimes things just happen.

Took her home and cleaned her with my Gerber fighting knife.
Link Posted: 5/20/2008 7:56:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NickV:
info you may need that a friend sent to me:
<funny as shit story.


I'm printing this out and carrying it with me in my wallet from now on. The next time I meet a guy who says he's too manly to cry, I'm going to make him read it because I just laughed so frigging hard I'm still wiping away tears.
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 12:03:33 PM EDT
Check with your state's wildlife authority to be sure, but generally game animals killed out of season unintentionally (or though self defense harvested.
Mac
Link Posted: 5/27/2008 4:57:48 PM EDT
I think you need to be more concerned with YOUR medical bills than keeping the deer carcass.

Have you ever hit a deer in the heart with a 30-06 and then watch it run another 200 yards?

Have you ever seen them jump a 6 foot high fence?

A deer is a wild craeture and will kick the shit out of a human ever time.

I hit one with a muzzle laoder many years ago, it was "dead" on the ground. My buddy stepped over its back to start gutting it. Low and behold, he went for a pony ride through the woods. That doe jumped up, guts hanging out of it, and ran about 100 yards through the woods. My buddy made it about 25 yards before being thrown like a bull rider. Funny as hell, afterwards....

Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:17:32 PM EDT
my dad has killed a dear with a knife before. it ran through some bushes when a buddy of his scared it and he jumped its back and slits its throat.

I'd of never believed him if his cousin (mine too i guess). friend, and dead best friends son wouldn't of all told me the same story at different times.... and since my mom said he left the house that night with out a gun and came home with a dear... I'm not going to doubt it...his cousin still calls him rambo for it....

that all being said that was in Louisianna and it was back when he was the ripe age of 25 and a roughneck off shore... so I have almost no doubt he was capable of doing it... but kicking a dear in the head and killing him... not going to happen....

yep... he's coonass (my dad)
Link Posted: 6/9/2008 3:32:56 PM EDT
You can do it, not as hard as all these guys say it is. Plus after you do it, you can tell the story about the day you became a man, and have one up on everyone else. Make sure you get video though or no one will believe you. Try to grab a hind leg, it will be easier if the deer can't run away. And its perfectly legal as long as you are starving, and in danger of starving to death.
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