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Posted: 11/3/2010 9:02:48 AM EDT
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Aren't they basically the same thing?
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Posted: 11/3/2010 9:40:21 AM EDT
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TJ might have some experience with jet A fuel. My opinion of those torpedo heaters is they are just smelly no matter what.
On a radiant style wick heater, you get a cleaner burn as the fumes get a second chance to burn passing over the red hot grid in the heating element, similar to a catalytic converter in a car. I'd be willing to bet an Alladin style lamp would burn very clean unless you were trying to run at an extremely low flame. |
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Posted: 11/3/2010 10:39:41 AM EDT
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Aren't they basically the same thing? thats my understanding too, thats why the airport smell like a smoky kerosene heater. J- |
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Posted: 11/3/2010 11:05:08 AM EDT
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Kerosene, JET-A, JP-5, Diesel are all pretty much the same thing. The main difference is the flash point and purity of the fuel. As for your lamp, I don't have a good answer for ya, I've never used one. I have used all the above in a torpedo heater and kerosene and diesel in an old school radiant type of heater.
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Posted: 11/3/2010 1:51:10 PM EDT
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I run jet-a in one of these and it works great.
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Posted: 11/3/2010 1:55:16 PM EDT
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I recall hearing that Jet-A and other aviation fuels may have additives that are not so good to breathe in.
I've never tried it. If that's all I had, I'd use it. |
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Posted: 11/3/2010 2:30:03 PM EDT
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Aren't they basically the same thing? Jet-A is indistinguishable from Kerosene Jet-A = Kerosene |
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Posted: 11/3/2010 7:31:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yes, Kerosine = Jet-A <> Diesel= #2 heating oil.Quoted: Aren't they basically the same thing? Jet-A is indistinguishable from Kerosene Jet-A = Kerosene smells different, looks different, feels different, tastes different. diesel contains some quantity of wax, and gels at low temps. To prevent gelling, cut it with kero, gasoline, etc. |
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Posted: 11/4/2010 6:03:16 AM EDT
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I recall hearing that Jet-A and other aviation fuels may have additives that are not so good to breathe in. I've never tried it. If that's all I had, I'd use it. Ask Alex Jones.  (chem trails)
Seriously, they add anti-icing compound to the fuel as they pump it into the plane. IIRC it is too expensive to add to all jet fuel. |
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Posted: 11/4/2010 7:11:39 AM EDT
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From Wiki Answers:
"Jet fuel is a type of kerosene. Essentially it is kerosene which has been highly purified and had a few additives added to prevent or mitigate water contamination. Kerosene will burn just fine in a jet engine, and jet A will burn just fine in a kerosene heater." |
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Posted: 11/4/2010 11:31:59 AM EDT
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I can tell you there is a difference depending on the grade. Aviation fuels are not the same thing as commercially available K1.
Jet A may not be too bad, but I worked with two old Chiefs (Air Force) who used JP-4 in a Kero heater and it got so hot they couldn't shut it off. Our aircraft wash contractor used JP-4 and 5, but cut with K1 in his kero powered water heaters. I'd be real careful using straight Jet A. SMS-ret |
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Posted: 11/5/2010 8:56:06 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the replies.
In summary, Jet A should work as a replacement for kero, but be careful when you first try it. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 8:30:21 AM EDT
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I can tell you there is a difference depending on the grade. Aviation fuels are not the same thing as commercially available K1. Jet A may not be too bad, but I worked with two old Chiefs (Air Force) who used JP-4 in a Kero heater and it got so hot they couldn't shut it off. Our aircraft wash contractor used JP-4 and 5, but cut with K1 in his kero powered water heaters. I'd be real careful using straight Jet A. SMS-ret jp-4 is like gasoline. jp-5 is jet-a. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 8:43:54 AM EDT
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jp-4 is like gasoline. jp-5 is jet-a. JP-4, or JP4 (for "Jet Propellant") was a jet fuel, specified in 1951 by the U.S. government (MIL-DTL-5624). It was a 50-50 kerosene-gasoline blend. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 11:18:16 AM EDT
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When I worked on F-18's we had some heaters that ran off the same JP-5. Don't know about it stinking...it smells like victory to me
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Posted: 1/13/2011 12:28:47 PM EDT
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jp-4 is like gasoline. jp-5 is jet-a. JP-4, or JP4 (for "Jet Propellant") was a jet fuel, specified in 1951 by the U.S. government (MIL-DTL-5624). It was a 50-50 kerosene-gasoline blend. JP4 is a blend of 35-55% (by weight) of kerosene and the balance being naphtha. Most JP4 blends contain benzene, less than 1%, a known carcinogen. JP5 is approaching 100% kerosene with less than 0.05% naphtha. Had to learn this stuff getting a marine engineman license. ETA: yeah...I know I just said what you said....I just remembered the numbers and other stuff since it was drilled into my head for a few months before I took the test and got licensed. mm |
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