so its a done deal. well not all the way done i have to make an appointment to get my papers signed then the dreaded wait begins. i went thru J B Arms in upper darby pa. total price for the gun was 1150 out the door of course that dosent include the stamp. howard was a great guy to deal with. we went thru about 10 rifles to find one i was happy with. they all had some minor types of scratches or wear. the one i pulled out was pretty good the lower only had the mag well scratches from inserting mags which would have happened anyway and the buffer tyube had some bad scrathes on it but who cares. the upper was also in pretty good shape. had some minor scuffing(not down to the bare metal) and the front post was painted white. the guns come with a mag, sling, and a box(not the original to the rifle i assume from the the replacement rifles). he said these were p.d. trade ins from arizona.he does have a bunch more so dig in. i dont think it was a bad deal since a new one would have cost me 1700 after shipping and transfer and i would have to wait much longer. i also found that surplus city also has these for 1060 out the door. i think they are from the same group of trade ins so condition is prbably similar.