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If not already on the list, y'all should make an extended rail system for AK platforms similar to the Tavor Arclight extended rail system. Maybe based of fun the renegade handguard or a hybrid between the two. Food for thought.
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Posted: 8/6/2014 8:21:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/6/2014 8:23:19 PM EST by Manticore_Arms]
Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
If not already on the list, y'all should make an extended rail system for AK platforms similar to the Tavor Arclight extended rail system. Maybe based of fun the renegade handguard or a hybrid between the two. Food for thought. Don't worry, I think we will have you covered fairly soon....  
We already have posted picslast week on Facebook of our "standard length" aluminum AK forend prototypes that we have developed in conjunction with AK Operators Union. We just didn't get around to posting them here as we made some revisions to the system since then. More info soon. 
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Posted: 8/7/2014 12:40:08 AM EST
Awesome, looking forward to seeing what y'all have coming.
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Posted: 8/7/2014 11:12:21 AM EST
Here are some pics of the early prototypes (AK Operators Union wanted Keymod, we also have an ARC LOK version)
The design has evolved a bit for production and enginerring reasons (and to lower the top rail on the upper handguard), but he concept of the lower handguard, bolted on upper handguard, cantilever optics mount, and the ability to use the lower with a standard upper handguard or even an Ultimak upper handguard is consistent through all designs.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2014 3:56:20 PM EST
When will this be available?
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Posted: 8/7/2014 10:02:01 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Sn1p3r_1:
When will this be available? Fall of this year. We are crunching numbers right now, just making sure everything looks good on the production cost end and then onward to full production!
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Posted: 8/8/2014 1:21:18 AM EST
Glad you're making an ARC LOK version. Not a fan of the industrial shelving. Are y'all planning on an extended version? Honestly, I'm still leaning toward the eventual AKM Renegade if it's standard vs standard.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 1:39:15 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Glad you're making an ARC LOK version. Not a fan of the industrial shelving. Are y'all planning on an extended version? Honestly, I'm still leaning toward the eventual AKM Renegade if it's standard vs standard. Lots of stuff coming, don't want to give too much away too soon.... |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 4:55:23 AM EST
How close is the ARC LOK to the dimensions to the Magpul Mag Lok? just curious as far as compatibility far more interested in this than the keymod personally. & while I"m @ the keyboard Sven any plans on looking into the ACR platform? You seem to cater to some of the odd balls as far as weapon platforms (sig bullpups etc) & this orphan is prime for some aftermarket support as it's parent companies pretty much abandoned it
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Posted: 8/25/2014 11:37:29 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By dengoose:
How close is the ARC LOK to the dimensions to the Magpul Mag Lok? just curious as far as compatibility far more interested in this than the keymod personally. & while I"m @ the keyboard Sven any plans on looking into the ACR platform? You seem to cater to some of the odd balls as far as weapon platforms (sig bullpups etc) & this orphan is prime for some aftermarket support as it's parent companies pretty much abandoned it The dimensions are suprisingly close, but we do not have any M LOK components in house yet to verify cross compatibility. Honestly there are more ARC LOK rail systems out in the market right now than M LOK systems! 
We do not have any plans to support the ACR, as it is a very tiny market, and the rifle was, well, stillborn for lack of a better term- honestly, if Magpul designed the ACR and isn't supporting it with their own M LOK system, well, in my opinion that is a bad sign for the ACR and its future. 
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Posted: 8/25/2014 1:27:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/25/2014 1:28:18 PM EST by runner6m]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Here are some pics of the early prototypes (AK Operators Union wanted Keymod, we also have an ARC LOK version) The design has evolved a bit for production and enginerring reasons (and to lower the top rail on the upper handguard), but he concept of the lower handguard, bolted on upper handguard, cantilever optics mount, and the ability to use the lower with a standard upper handguard or even an Ultimak upper handguard is consistent through all designs. http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/web3.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/WEB5.jpg Very nice, reminds me of the Zenit handguards. AK handguards that leave the receiver open at the corners bother the crap out of me. Thank you for making it compatible with the Ultimak, I have one on most of my AK's and swapping them out wasn't a viable option. I'll be buying a couple of lower handguards in your arc lok version. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:42:08 PM EST
Keeping my eyes on this thread!
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:49:43 PM EST
The Keymod version is already in production, and will be available for purchase before the end of the year.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 4:52:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2014 4:58:06 PM EST by Manticore_Arms]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runner6m:
Very nice, reminds me of the Zenit handguards. AK handguards that leave the receiver open at the corners bother the crap out of me. Thank you for making it compatible with the Ultimak, I have one on most of my AK's and swapping them out wasn't a viable option. I'll be buying a couple of lower handguards in your arc lok version. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By runner6m:
Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms:
Here are some pics of the early prototypes (AK Operators Union wanted Keymod, we also have an ARC LOK version) The design has evolved a bit for production and enginerring reasons (and to lower the top rail on the upper handguard), but he concept of the lower handguard, bolted on upper handguard, cantilever optics mount, and the ability to use the lower with a standard upper handguard or even an Ultimak upper handguard is consistent through all designs.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/web3.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/WEB5.jpg Very nice, reminds me of the Zenit handguards. AK handguards that leave the receiver open at the corners bother the crap out of me. Thank you for making it compatible with the Ultimak, I have one on most of my AK's and swapping them out wasn't a viable option. I'll be buying a couple of lower handguards in your arc lok version. Yup, it bothers me too- any joe in manufacturing can make an extrusion and bolt it on front of a gun. A real designer figures out how to blend squares into octagons, and do it for a reasonable price! 
When we were working with rob ski and I knew the product would be an aluminum lower handguard, I pushed for it to be compatible with the Ultimak, as I know a lot of guys, love it or hate it, run the Ultimak. Aluminum lower + aluminum upper makes sense with the Ultimak, even if we personally think our upper handguard solution is a bit better.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/24/2014 4:40:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2014 4:40:47 PM EST by walkinginadangerzone]
Mother of god! Will you all come out with a zenit like top cover that attaches to those mounting points on the HG as well? Edit, please remember of the yugo market.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 3:41:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/28/2014 3:43:11 PM EST by Manticore_Arms]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Mother of god! Will you all come out with a zenit like top cover that attaches to those mounting points on the HG as well? Edit, please remember of the yugo market. Note the extra holes on the top rear of the prototype lower handguard- not just there for looks.
[ETA] Wow, just realized those pictures are of a much earlier prototype, the production version looks much better!
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Posted: 10/28/2014 3:42:18 PM EST
...and don't worry, we haven't forgotten about the Yugo lovers, just deciding which direction to go, polymer or aluminum...
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Posted: 10/28/2014 11:18:47 PM EST
Clearly the only Arfcom appropriate answer is both.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2014 1:03:59 AM EST
Yep, both. But if I only had one option I would go with aluminum.
Also, any pics of the final production model handguards with railed top cover attached? |
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Posted: 11/1/2014 2:45:26 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Yep, both. But if I only had one option I would go with aluminum.
Also, any pics of the final production model handguards with railed top cover attached? No pictures yet for the public, should have some soon... |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 6:39:41 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Yep, both. But if I only had one option I would go with aluminum.
Also, any pics of the final production model handguards with railed top cover attached? late reply, I know I'm going to go the opposite. I like having the rail stem that I have on my AR (Daniel Defense MFR if y'all care), but for my SLR 107, I just want a plastic hand guard that has some kind of low profile attachment system that's like y'all's Arc-lok, or Magpul's MOE or M-Lok systems for a VFG. I have an Ultimak railed gas tube so my red dot an light are already situated and I don't want a bunch of rails hanging off I'm not going to use. |
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Posted: 1/9/2015 4:48:39 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
late reply, I know I'm going to go the opposite. I like having the rail stem that I have on my AR (Daniel Defense MFR if y'all care), but for my SLR 107, I just want a plastic hand guard that has some kind of low profile attachment system that's like y'all's Arc-lok, or Magpul's MOE or M-Lok systems for a VFG. I have an Ultimak railed gas tube so my red dot an light are already situated and I don't want a bunch of rails hanging off I'm not going to use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Yep, both. But if I only had one option I would go with aluminum.
Also, any pics of the final production model handguards with railed top cover attached? late reply, I know I'm going to go the opposite. I like having the rail stem that I have on my AR (Daniel Defense MFR if y'all care), but for my SLR 107, I just want a plastic hand guard that has some kind of low profile attachment system that's like y'all's Arc-lok, or Magpul's MOE or M-Lok systems for a VFG. I have an Ultimak railed gas tube so my red dot an light are already situated and I don't want a bunch of rails hanging off I'm not going to use. Duly noted. The Renegade and the ALFA are both awesome at what they do, but we also recognixe that a straight up set of Manticore polymer handguards that work with the stock upper and lower might be of interest too. Trust me, we have been discussing this in depth, mostly just waiting to see what comes out at SHOT 2015 so we know how to one up all the designs that are coming out.
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Posted: 1/12/2015 4:26:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2015 4:26:50 AM EST by D_CRISIS]
Still waiting for a renegade hand guard for my Arsenal SLR107
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Posted: 1/17/2015 12:42:10 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Still waiting for a renegade hand guard for my Arsenal SLR107 A Renegade handugard? Au contraire, we have something much better in the works right now. Polymer and curves and optics mounts, oh my!
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Posted: 1/17/2015 1:36:49 PM EST
y'all are such teases.
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Posted: 1/17/2015 7:43:29 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
y'all are such teases. Teasing works for sexy girls to get a guy's attention, why should sexy gun parts be any different?
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Posted: 1/17/2015 10:32:49 PM EST
I don't have an argument against that.
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